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Is 4 Scum in a 15-player game (regardless of PRs) balanced? Feels like a lot of Scum.In post 1824, Dunnstral wrote:What if it's a 4 scum game since town is stacked even if luv/nero were both lying about their roles?-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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Let me put this into perspective:
Because a universal backup can only grab same alignment roles, and there are provable town aligned roles in this game (friendly neighbor, normal neighbor) - Universal backup is, at minimum, a self-clearing role. Beyond that, it can grab powerful town roles like full watcher-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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Elsa Jay He or She. Idc.Chaos and ConfusionHe or She. Idc.
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With an Alien and a friendly neighbor though? Not even mentioning the Neopolitan.
Seems OP. But I guess we don't count regular neighbors as PRs, so that's 4 of us.
A full time Watcher, a novice Neopolitan, Indesicive Alien, anf a Universal Backup for those 4 roles? Along with 2 neighbors to give scum cover from aaid Neo?
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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This alone feels unbalanced to me.In post 1832, Elsa Jay wrote:A full time Watcher, a novice Neopolitan, Indesicive Alien-
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I don't really know what more we can do to assume this other than lynch by occam's razor. i.e. always lynch the most scumread player over, say, some weird play where we lynch an associate first or something like that. Which I'm totally down with. We should be lynching the most scummy player.
But then again if Nero hasn't taken over a role yet, I suppose there could be some merit to lynching the scummiest PR claim? Which I would still regard as LUV, because I'm assuming Elsa is going to get us a scum lynch today when she spills the beans.
p-edit: when did rabid die??-
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Scum can be neighbors, he's not ic. And yes he did claim thatIn post 1838, Frank wrote:Did rabid claim neighbor? if no one CC's that rabid would be an IC then right? or could scum be in the hood as well?
Nero should have inherited MariaR's role when she died, as explained on the UB pageIn post 1835, Frank wrote:But then again if Nero hasn't taken over a role yet, I suppose there could be some merit to lynching the scummiest PR claim? Which I would still regard as LUV, because I'm assuming Elsa is going to get us a scum lynch today when she spills the beans.
Here is exactly what a UB does:
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Universal Backup (if self-aware) is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Universal Backup can be of any alignment, but it should only activate upon the first death of a power role of their own alignment. A power role in this case is any role that is not Vanilla (so not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon). Universal Backups inherit any and all modifiers, including the remaining shots of an X-Shot role.-
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Elsa Jay He or She. Idc.Chaos and ConfusionHe or She. Idc.
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Which is why I was mostly curious about the Watcher and assumed the mafia had a Ninja to counteract it. But Wake saw the kill, so unless the ninja is like 1-2 shot, it's a weird dynamic, yeah.In post 1834, Dunnstral wrote:
This alone feels unbalanced to me.In post 1832, Elsa Jay wrote:A full time Watcher, a novice Neopolitan, Indesicive Alien-
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It's a normal gameIn post 1840, Frank wrote:creature;s rules-
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"The term "power role" is somewhat ambiguous - generally anything that is not truly Vanilla is considered a "power role", including roles like Miller. It is ultimately up to the moderator's discretion which abilities are inheritable, though it should be planned in advance."
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Exactly. So I guess I gotta ask this:In post 1844, Frank wrote:If our town power is really that strong, and there's a potential for a UB to take over watcher, I'd think a ninja would not be gated in this scenario
Wake: do you have any other modifiers at all you haven't mentioned?-
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