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[dawoodle]

I agree that I was overconfidentin the way that I presented my opinions, and I have tried to address some of the issues that have been mentioned. Can you point to anything else specific that appears to rely too much on assumption?

[eth0s]

Official Vote Count 1.03

But I remember how
You begged and prayed
For your god and his grace
To keep you safe
To save you from me

Bastards - Defeater,

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Lynching

With 9 living players it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Blatant Scum

(2): dawoodle, Luca Blight

dawoodle

(2): insomnia, Blatant Scum

dsjstr

(1): Poyzin

Luca Blight

(1): dsjstr

Not Voting

(3):TheAlmightyRaprap, IMASPY, AdmiralZ

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-23 07:50:00).

Mod notes:

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[dsjstr]

Just realized Eth0s has the second most posts... lets get some activity.

VOTE: dawoodle

[insomnia]

That's L-2.

[dsjstr]

That's L-2.

Right! Sorry

[eth0s]

Iconeum replaces TheAlmightyRaprap

Billy Pilgrim replaces AdmiralZ

[Billy Pilgrim]

Note sure if that is somewhere mentoined, but.
Notes for newbies:
-get avatar picture, please
-we are in random vote stage. The votes are random, dont get offended by them
-don't hammer (put 5th vote on a person) before asking them for role
-you are having like 85% chance to get lynched - it's normal
-you are going to be really bad in this, especially with determining others' alignments

Vocabulary:
-https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviations
-these are important:
*FoS: Finger of Suspicion. Used to indicate that you find someone suspicious but are not going to vote them, for whatever reason (often because you are voting for someone even more suspicious).
*L-#: Lynch - number, The number indicates how many votes a player needs to be lynched. Eg, in a 9 player game, a player with 3 votes on him is at L-2 (5-3).
*LyLo: Lynch-Or-Lose. This is a stage in the game where the town must lynch scum or they will lose the game.
*NAI: Non-Alignment-Indicative, or null. You can't decide whether a person is scum or town from that.
*PL: Policy Lynch. Lynch someone for other reason than bein scummy.
*PoE: Process of Elimination. If you are townreading 7/9 people, you are scumreading the rest via PoE.
*PR: Power Role or Post Restriction, depending on context.
*RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons, until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.
*SE: Semi-experienced. This refers to nominally experienced players with no extra responsibility in Newbie games. Alternatively, The Speakeasy, a private General Discussion subforum.
*V/LA: Vacation/Limited Access. A catch-all term for "unavailable due to MeatWorld constraints".

Last time you did this you were scum, and I checked and couldn't find a game where you did this as town. So did you mean to say you do this in all your newbie scum games?

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Come on people this one was blatantly obvious.

[insomnia]

So did you mean to say you do this in all your newbie scum games?

Where did he say he does that post only as town?

[insomnia]

Billy’s entrance is not good. Meh.

Billy - daw would be too simple though..

I still think daw is scum and should be pushed, for the record.

I probably won’t post anything until I either change my read on daw or billy starts doing townie stuff. Or daw.

[eth0s]

Official Vote Count 1.04

A feeling is a piece of skin wrapped in a pocket
All the king's men fell down on their knees
Raised their arms to a leader outside
Praising the devil they said
Hell fuck yeah!
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Covered in Chrome - Violent Soho,

Hungry Ghost

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Lynching

With 9 living players it takes 5 votes to lynch.

dawoodle

(3): insomnia, Blatant Scum, dsjstr

Blatant Scum

(3): dawoodle, Luca Blight, Billy Pilgrim

dsjstr

(1): Poyzin

Not Voting

(2): Iconeum, IMASPY,

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-23 07:50:00).

Mod notes:

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[Blatant Scum]

Note sure if that is somewhere mentoined, but.
Notes for newbies:
-get avatar picture, please
-we are in random vote stage. The votes are random, dont get offended by them
-don't hammer (put 5th vote on a person) before asking them for role
-you are having like 85% chance to get lynched - it's normal
-you are going to be really bad in this, especially with determining others' alignments

Vocabulary:
-https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviations
-these are important:
*FoS: Finger of Suspicion. Used to indicate that you find someone suspicious but are not going to vote them, for whatever reason (often because you are voting for someone even more suspicious).
*L-#: Lynch - number, The number indicates how many votes a player needs to be lynched. Eg, in a 9 player game, a player with 3 votes on him is at L-2 (5-3).
*LyLo: Lynch-Or-Lose. This is a stage in the game where the town must lynch scum or they will lose the game.
*NAI: Non-Alignment-Indicative, or null. You can't decide whether a person is scum or town from that.
*PL: Policy Lynch. Lynch someone for other reason than bein scummy.
*PoE: Process of Elimination. If you are townreading 7/9 people, you are scumreading the rest via PoE.
*PR: Power Role or Post Restriction, depending on context.
*RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons, until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.
*SE: Semi-experienced. This refers to nominally experienced players with no extra responsibility in Newbie games. Alternatively, The Speakeasy, a private General Discussion subforum.
*V/LA: Vacation/Limited Access. A catch-all term for "unavailable due to MeatWorld constraints".

Last time you did this you were scum, and I checked and couldn't find a game where you did this as town. So did you mean to say you do this in all your newbie scum games?

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Come on people this one was blatantly obvious.

I did it in all newbie games after I was scum and posted this.

[Blatant Scum]

Do you seriously think that I am intentionally posting a certain opening only in newbie games where I am scum?

[dawoodle]

I think we probably have all scum but 1 targeted right now..i am not quite sure how many scum is in this damn town.

Ima, can you explain your thought process here? I can think of a few explanations, but would like to hear yours.

[Billy Pilgrim]

So did you mean to say you do this in all your newbie scum games?

Where did he say he does that post only as town?

He said he did it in all his newbie games. I added the scum. Sorry, bad attempt at joke. It won't be the last.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Billy’s entrance is not good. Meh.

Billy - daw would be too simple though..

I still think daw is scum and should be pushed, for the record.

I probably won’t post anything until I either change my read on daw or billy starts doing townie stuff. Or daw.

I had an opening post, it's a half serious vote and you're shading me for it? This feels off. Enchantress, may wanna tell the guy that's posting for you that he should shade less if he wants your insights to be taken seriously.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Do you seriously think that I am intentionally posting a certain opening only in newbie games where I am scum?

Actually given that your meta seems to be to post fairly scummy stuff, your answer here actually makes me think my initial post wasnt just a joke. . .

[Billy Pilgrim]

Note sure if that is somewhere mentoined, but.
Notes for newbies:
-get avatar picture, please
-we are in random vote stage. The votes are random, dont get offended by them
-don't hammer (put 5th vote on a person) before asking them for role
-you are having like 85% chance to get lynched - it's normal
-you are going to be really bad in this, especially with determining others' alignments

Vocabulary:
-https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviations
-these are important:
*FoS: Finger of Suspicion. Used to indicate that you find someone suspicious but are not going to vote them, for whatever reason (often because you are voting for someone even more suspicious).
*L-#: Lynch - number, The number indicates how many votes a player needs to be lynched. Eg, in a 9 player game, a player with 3 votes on him is at L-2 (5-3).
*LyLo: Lynch-Or-Lose. This is a stage in the game where the town must lynch scum or they will lose the game.
*NAI: Non-Alignment-Indicative, or null. You can't decide whether a person is scum or town from that.
*PL: Policy Lynch. Lynch someone for other reason than bein scummy.
*PoE: Process of Elimination. If you are townreading 7/9 people, you are scumreading the rest via PoE.
*PR: Power Role or Post Restriction, depending on context.
*RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons, until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.
*SE: Semi-experienced. This refers to nominally experienced players with no extra responsibility in Newbie games. Alternatively, The Speakeasy, a private General Discussion subforum.
*V/LA: Vacation/Limited Access. A catch-all term for "unavailable due to MeatWorld constraints".

Last time you did this you were scum, and I checked and couldn't find a game where you did this as town. So did you mean to say you do this in all your newbie scum games?

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Come on people this one was blatantly obvious.

I did it in all newbie games after I was scum and posted this.

Do you have an alt? Because this is literally the first newbie you're in (maybe even the first game you're in) since 1970.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Hey Dragon, you town? Kinda wanna get a read on you before you go V/LA for a few days.

[Billy Pilgrim]

You wouldn’t. I would. And I have.

Enchantress has plenty of success with this. The intro post a person is coming up with can be really telling as to what they have in mind. Poyzin wanted to make a strong appearance and be liked by people. He worked on his post, you can tell. It wasn’t something goofy that villagers usually post.

Oooh man, you think that was serious wait until you play with me for a bit.

[Billy Pilgrim]

so far im liking the enchantress' leads

Huh?

[Billy Pilgrim]

You wouldn’t. I would. And I have.

Enchantress has plenty of success with this. The intro post a person is coming up with can be really telling as to what they have in mind. Poyzin wanted to make a strong appearance and be liked by people. He worked on his post, you can tell. It wasn’t something goofy that villagers usually post.

I-it’s just an intro? Like I understand how RVS works, and I wanted a reason to create a circle of votes, but couldn’t find one. To answer the other question, because I still haven’t figured out multiquoting on mobile (I see the button, but it doesn’t open the reply), I DO have forum mafia experience outside of this game. I understand the importance of well-written replies, and I don’t believe that wanting to make a good first impression is something that necessarily means someone is aligned one way or another.

While I see why you may think the way you do, I don’t intend to deceive anyone. I see why a post like mine may be unexpected for a newbie game.

So you came in with a pre-set idea about how you wanted the votes to go, why? How does that help us move out of rvs?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Enchantress likes dsjstr's probing thus far.

She also says that she's willing to accept that if Poyzin is telling the truth, then he'll be hard to found as town because his posts go through a pre-filter, which would come off as scummy to whoever's tone reading.

In fact, she says we should probably probe into Blatant Scum for town reading Poyzin's entrance, because I think that might be a TMI read. Poyzin's post should've felt weird to most towns. It didn't to Blatant Scum, he actually read it fairly townie.

I like the dude that liked my questioning. IMASPY dude.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

This is L-2

. Proceed carefully.

Town core of djstr - IMASPY - me - luca blight

who next

What specifically about dsjstr's probing do you like? And what's your read?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Enchantress likes dsjstr's probing thus far.

She also says that she's willing to accept that if Poyzin is telling the truth, then he'll be hard to found as town because his posts go through a pre-filter, which would come off as scummy to whoever's tone reading.

In fact, she says we should probably probe into Blatant Scum for town reading Poyzin's entrance, because I think that might be a TMI read. Poyzin's post should've felt weird to most towns. It didn't to Blatant Scum, he actually read it fairly townie.

I like the dude that liked my questioning. IMASPY dude.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

This is L-2

. Proceed carefully.

Town core of djstr - IMASPY - me - luca blight

who next

This is pinging me early. Thinking early that this and BS wouldnt be a team.

[Billy Pilgrim]

djstr and luca aren't team mates.

Why?

[Billy Pilgrim]

I was liking daw's intro but his wall makes me shake my previous town lean on him. I think he TMI'd half the playerlist with that post, including me. I think his point about me distinguishing players to look for agendas is a TMI read. I just asked Poyzin a question about his experience because he mentioned he was not new. I was trying to evaluate how to read him based on his experience. I think this is adding unnecessary analysis with tons of logic leaps to conclude a town read on me. He's also attempting to sow doubt in my read because ima was sheeping me. I'm aware he did. I wasn't oblivious to this, but he seems too chill about it and I don't think it's agenda-y. Therefore, I didn't think it needed to be addressed, as I don't see any agenda in that yet. If he'll disagree with something, he'll say so. He probably knows he's gonna have to produce content of his own and most likely will anyway. He's not new.

He's posturing for a set up on either Blatant or Poyzin from that wall. He also said Poyzin seemed innocent for him at first, but then he's accusing Blatant for accepting Poyzin as town, which is illogical and reads as a contrived read to set the pace at a Blatant - Poyzin brawl on day one. That's his intention. It reflects this from "I'd like to see more interaction from them" specifically.

His read on Luca also doesn't make sense, if it was helpful for you, why doesn't it contribute in some way?

VOTE: dawoodle

In all honesty, if this is mafia, I'd be 90% sure that Blatant and Poyzin are both town cleared. So is Ima.

How are you using the phrase TMI?