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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:58 pm

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I think makes plenty of sense last scum is somehow informed otherwise Wake's and Looker's red herring roles won't really help scum at all
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:59 pm

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In post 2398, january wrote:because you couldn't? it's limited shots or non-multitasking maybe?
Limited shot would have to be 1-shot to match with the other two roles but it's unlikely scum would have saved that to day 3.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:59 pm

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I mean night 3.
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:00 pm

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literally everything from #2384+ are just "hey i want to prove january is maf so i'll present a bunch of stuff that's vague and non-AI at best and say it's a good argument"

like i get that's your goal and all but i'm sure i've said something actually scummy at some point u could probably push on that
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 2401, Creature wrote:
In post 2398, january wrote:because you couldn't? it's limited shots or non-multitasking maybe?
Limited shot would have to be 1-shot to match with the other two roles but it's unlikely scum would have saved that to day 3.
if scum has 1-shot roleblock - which i do admit makes the most sense with the other scum roles
then i don't see why they wouldn't have waited til I claimed before using it
i probably could have lied about the nights i could use my power and wasted the roleblock but thats a lot i didn't think about

and if its not limited shots then its non-multitasking and you had to submit the kill
you know you didn't forget to roleblock so u characterizing it like that sounds so weird lmao
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:12 pm

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wake's selfhammer on d3 or 4 (don't remember which)
doesn't make sense to me in any context except him trying to save his partner from the lynch by drawing the lynch onto himself and preventing it from flipping
makes the most sense that he was trying to protect creature who had roleblock since that was the more valuable maf power role
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 2405, january wrote:wake's selfhammer on d3 or 4 (don't remember which)
doesn't make sense to me in any context except him trying to save his partner from the lynch by drawing the lynch onto himself and preventing it from flipping
makes the most sense that he was trying to protect creature who had roleblock since that was the more valuable maf power role
Why would it even matter if I couldn't roleblock you?
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:13 pm

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Vote Count 6.01

Garmr [0]:

january [1]:
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Not Voting [1]:
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With 3 in play, it takes 2 votes to lynch.

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(expired on 2020-01-24 22:36:00)

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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:14 pm

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or actually that makes more sense if maf maybe forgot/didn't realize that creature couldn't kill and roleblock at the same time
my guess: wake knew creature was more valuable but they don't have encryptor day chat so he just tried to save partner

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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:15 pm

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Pretty sure you don't do that unless the survival of your mafia partner will ensure mafia win
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:16 pm

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lol sacrificing oneself just so your mafia partner gets lynched the next day

Nah, doesn't make sense
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:21 pm

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i literally cannot think of any better explanation for wake's selfhammer

maf has no daychat, and wake logs on to see that his partner's at L-1 and i'm about to hammer them
knowing that he's probably fossed anyways and is a likely lynch anyways, he baits saudade's vote on himself
In post 2160, Saudade wrote:If anyone objects my claim today claim it now, changing your mind will result in getting roped
In post 2238, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: Saudade

I'm calling bullshit on your Mason claim. If Skellen is the other Mason then she shouldn't be pocketing anyone who's unconfirmed.
saving creature from the lynch and thus saving the scum with a useful role

makes sense to me lmao
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:21 pm

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if creature was town wake could have just hammered them when they were at L-1??
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:23 pm

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i think wake thought he was saving the roleblock but forgot/didn't know the roleblock wouldn't work anymore for whatever reason
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:53 pm

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In post 2412, january wrote:if creature was town wake could have just hammered them when they were at L-1??
I think Wake still wanted to position himself as town but ended getting voted and quit anyway
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:55 pm

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If january's claim were true, there would be five fairly strong PRs which is half of town already

Yes, there were mini normals games with roughly that amount of PRs, but they were mostly weak PRs that could easily be lynchable, while this game would have like only two lynchable PRs but even their power could compensate that
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:56 pm

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My guess is january is mafia-aligned motion detector or something related and hence the confidence to set up a claim early (like Gamma/piss slot in my recently finished large where I presume would feel confident enough to claim something like tracker to contrast something like watcher).
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:57 pm

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The 1-shot strongman and 1-shot ninja would be actually related to FL's role.
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:59 pm

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In post 0, AaronFrost wrote:Flavor Leaf [Town Complex Announcing PT Cop]
Actually I think this role is supposed to be able to target any of the masons + any of them scum, while also if FL targeted town he wouldn't be sure if that is clearable for them.

I don't think the reviewers or whoever made the setup would decide to add motion detector to be the only innocent FL can get.
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:47 pm

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I didn't hammer so I'm town.
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:52 pm

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Now we play the game called what would skitter do and lets do the opposite.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:14 pm

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If we're gonna play that then skitter said she would be pretty happy to lose to january
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:15 am

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Creature as scum-
-Wanted to lynch me
-Endorsing Skitters reads which would of won scum the game.
-rushing on tic tac with me felt off.


Jan-
-Day 1 not voting, day 2- voted me but somehow ended up not voting by the end of the day again.

-The entire day 2 where she sided with Skitter If she actually wanted to sort me she wouldn't of prematurely tried to stop any fruit on skitter. Smart town would of let me hang myself with my gambit if they thought I was scum. Also she knew there was movement on skitter so me saying I gambited would be less believable.

-The fake guilty she laid on scum then retracted.

-Also the fact she crumbed after her claim and didn't crumb day 1 or 2.

-The fact I'm the one who's Innocent after saying might as well give Jan the win as scum. 99% of the time I am Bull shitting to see who's scum. I gave the appearance of least likely to suspect her on purpose.

-Day 3 she was contemplating if I was scum with Looker ect day 4.

In post 2319, AaronFrost wrote:
Vote Count 4.05

tictac [2] [L-2]:
Creature, Skellen
Wake88 [2] [L-2]:
tictac, Saudade
Skellen [0]:

Garmr [0]:

january [0]:

Creature [1]:
Garmr
Saudade [0]:


Not Voting [2]:
january, Wake88

With 7 in play, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-01-17 04:16:00)

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- Creature has decided to stay
You have a so called guilty on Tic Tac your town do you A lynch your guilty or do you lynch a scum read your not sure of. Also why would you assume a role blocker when your role gets guilties.

It seems like a Bus to me.
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:17 am

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In post 2355, tictac wrote:probs cause garm was going to, and wake didn't wanna give garm townpoints.
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:28 am

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This was a really tough call and you can put all the blame on me if town lose

VOTE: January

I picked to Vote Jan because of role balance and her reaction to me day 2. It seemed like it came from a place of knowing instead of a place of trying to find stuff out.

Also

I think the mod set up is

1-Loud complex pt cop-
3-masons
1-Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
1-Mafia 1-Shot Ninja
1-Maifa 1-Shot Motion tracker
6-vanilla townies

This seems like the most likely set up.

Also

Could be

1-Loud complex pt cop
3-masons
1-Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
1-Mafia 1-Shot Ninja
1-mafia goon
6 vanilla townies.

Because the goon would act like a weak godfather in this set up.
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