BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Chara]

and that she responded to Amrun's scumcase with offense at her hunting skills is another indicator of being town. she's offended because she's town and read it as a remark against her play. i don't think newer scum tend to respond like that.

[davesaz]

Oh, shit! So he did claim eventually! I was surprised (to the limit of being shocked, actually) the more comprehensive players didn't picj up on what he was hinting all along. I mean, he was confident enough you just had to think about it before you asked him WHY he was so confident.

TBH I still don't fully believe it. It's out of character for Boon to use a base role instead of one of his special ones. And I don't really buy going to bat for FlippyNips of all people.

[Creature]

Fix it up yourself that is.

Dude I don't know what are all the claims

It's way easier for someone like you to correct me on the claims I have missed than me having to go back through a hundred pages to find all the claims

[Creature]

In no particular order... in a vacuum which of these roles would be most suspect knowing nothing else about the game?
Not talking about the associated players at the moment or what other roles (may) exist. Just the list of roles given here.

Rolecop
Universal Backup
Doctor
Doctor Enabler
Rolestopper

Rolestopper is pretty powerful imo

[Creature]

Rolecop can be easily tweaked by the juvenile deliquent.

[Creature]

(oops google is saying to tweak is to improve, but I mean nerfed/uselessified)

[Creature]

Does doctor + rolestopper ever make sense?

[Amrun]

Fonz, what do you think of Clemency slot?

Not much of an opinion tbh

I’m requesting you look harder. That’s scum.

Cool, I will. What's your read on RCE right now?

I've read the Karnage/Clem/Ado slot BTW. Still want an answer on this.

Sorry missed this.

He’s still a problem re: VCA, especially if nips is indeed town, which I have more reason to believe is true now.

However, we obviously mindmelded a bit on Adorable earlier, which I’m a sucker for. I doubt he and Adorable are aligned, nor him and Joan. Since I have a stronger read on the Adorable slot atm I think that’s a more fruitful avenue to take, especially since I TR Bambi and I think it will be easier to convince people Bambi is town if Adorable flips scum.

Still, I would consolidate onto RCE if that were a viable option.

[Chara]

Oh, shit! So he did claim eventually! I was surprised (to the limit of being shocked, actually) the more comprehensive players didn't picj up on what he was hinting all along. I mean, he was confident enough you just had to think about it before you asked him WHY he was so confident.

TBH I still don't fully believe it. It's out of character for Boon to use a base role instead of one of his special ones. And I don't really buy going to bat for FlippyNips of all people.

maybe i'm misunderstanding here, but how does it not make sense? there are only three special roles even allowed in this game.

[davesaz]

Fix it up yourself that is.

Dude I don't know what are all the claims

It's way easier for someone like you to correct me on the claims I have missed than me having to go back through a hundred pages to find all the claims

That response is slightly better than what I expected to see.
I don't actually remember them all either.
Someone did reply with a few corrections...

[Amrun]

More thoughts on Adorable slot:

I think any slot that is on its third replacement for lurking offenses is higher than rand scum.

Rolecop very obviously has more scum utility. The manner in which Clemency claimed isn’t scummy, though, for the record.

[Amrun]

and that she responded to Amrun's scumcase with offense at her hunting skills is another indicator of being town. she's offended because she's town and read it as a remark against her play. i don't think newer scum tend to respond like that.

And in interest of fairness, I think this is a fair point.

It doesn’t change my mind though.

[50 Judge Powers]

Town don’t fakeclaim Miller. That’s pl worthy.

Don't let the Jay siblings see this one (Jay siblings as in Bambi & Elsa)

[Adorable]

More thoughts on Adorable slot:

I think any slot that is on its third replacement for lurking offenses is higher than rand scum.

Rolecop very obviously has more scum utility. The manner in which Clemency claimed isn’t scummy, though, for the record.

Normally scum would ask for a replacement which I have seen often so that scum can discuss with each other through chat. Karnage and Clemency not asking for a replacement often tends to be a town player who lost interest in the game.

[Bambi Jay]

Town don’t fakeclaim Miller. That’s pl worthy.

Don't let the Jay siblings see this one (Jay siblings as in Bambi & Elsa)

Elsa claimed Traitor as a Miller before. This is a downgrade in comparison.

[Amrun]

More thoughts on Adorable slot:

I think any slot that is on its third replacement for lurking offenses is higher than rand scum.

Rolecop very obviously has more scum utility. The manner in which Clemency claimed isn’t scummy, though, for the record.

Normally scum would ask for a replacement which I have seen often so that scum can discuss with each other through chat. Karnage and Clemency not asking for a replacement often tends to be a town player who lost interest in the game.

That’s not accurate. Many players enjoy scum less and struggle to fabricate reads and are more likely to lurk.

It’s not 100%, especially as a one off, since town lurks too, but serial lurkers in a slot is definitely +scum

I wouldn’t lynch solely for that if the slot otherwise appeared town but it is a point of consideration.

[The Fonz]

Fonz, what do you think of Clemency slot?

Not much of an opinion tbh

I’m requesting you look harder. That’s scum.

Cool, I will. What's your read on RCE right now?

I've read the Karnage/Clem/Ado slot BTW. Still want an answer on this.

Sorry missed this.

He’s still a problem re: VCA, especially if nips is indeed town, which I have more reason to believe is true now.

However, we obviously mindmelded a bit on Adorable earlier, which I’m a sucker for. I doubt he and Adorable are aligned, nor him and Joan. Since I have a stronger read on the Adorable slot atm I think that’s a more fruitful avenue to take, especially since I TR Bambi and I think it will be easier to convince people Bambi is town if Adorable flips scum.

Still, I would consolidate onto RCE if that were a viable option.

Thanks. Noted you were scumreading him then voting with him which pinged me a bit. This is somewhat reassuring.

unvote

[Amrun]

Fonz, what do you think of Clemency slot?

Not much of an opinion tbh

I’m requesting you look harder. That’s scum.

Cool, I will. What's your read on RCE right now?

I've read the Karnage/Clem/Ado slot BTW. Still want an answer on this.

Sorry missed this.

He’s still a problem re: VCA, especially if nips is indeed town, which I have more reason to believe is true now.

However, we obviously mindmelded a bit on Adorable earlier, which I’m a sucker for. I doubt he and Adorable are aligned, nor him and Joan. Since I have a stronger read on the Adorable slot atm I think that’s a more fruitful avenue to take, especially since I TR Bambi and I think it will be easier to convince people Bambi is town if Adorable flips scum.

Still, I would consolidate onto RCE if that were a viable option.

Thanks. Noted you were scumreading him then voting with him which pinged me a bit. This is somewhat reassuring.

unvote

I’m gonna be honest, RCE and I have been voting similarly all game. I’m not blind to that fact at all. But I know I’m town so like.... lel

[Amrun]

Basically I’m in a weird position where if certain people flipped scum, I’d reverse my read totally on RCE. And the read is mostly by circumstance. So be it.

[Amrun]

Fonz, what do you think of Clemency slot?

Not much of an opinion tbh

I’m requesting you look harder. That’s scum.

Cool, I will. What's your read on RCE right now?

I've read the Karnage/Clem/Ado slot BTW. Still want an answer on this.

Will you share the results of this now?

[davesaz]

RCE has more than 200 posts and I don't remember any of them?
Yeah that needs a re-read.

[RCEnigma]

Basically I’m in a weird position where if certain people flipped scum, I’d reverse my read totally on RCE. And the read is mostly by circumstance. So be it.

Basically how I feel towards Bambi. Ive gone back and forth on Amrun paranoia but the timing of her vote as I was placing mine but got ninja'd made me feel pretty good we we're catching the same thing at the same time.

I'm not locktowning her but mindmelding is always going to indicate a town thought process to town. Which is why I'm not putting as much emphasis on the VCA angle. However if flippynips ends up flipping scum I'm probably doubling back on that because it does implicate the crossvotes between haggle and r&j day 1 and I'm included in that pool.

[Adorable]

Clemency confirmed he also got a result on N1 and that was supposed to help clear out the confusion on davesaz result since Titus was saying he shouldn't have gotten a result on N1. Normally in a scum players point of view they would just keep quiet about their result and not help confirm to clear up the confusion.

[RCEnigma]

RCE has more than 200 posts and I don't remember any of them?
Yeah that needs a re-read.

I wish this wasn't a recurring theme but like... I guess this is my meta.

[davesaz]

I honestly expected to see something like 40 posts in activity overview.