Newbie 1977 - Game Over

[Egix96]

ez game?

Hopefully so.

[NDMath]

Post game someone should teach me how to effectively defend myself since I'm really bad at it.

If he's alive tomorrow remember that fish quickhammered.

And Alex is pretty much completely cleared now.

[GayBabyJailor]

Post game someone should teach me how to effectively defend myself since I'm really bad at it.

If he's alive tomorrow remember that fish quickhammered.

And Alex is pretty much completely cleared now.

[Formerfish]

Ok, I know who scum is now.

[Micc]

Votecount 3.01

NDMath (3) -

GayBabyJailor, Egix96, Formerfish

Not Voting (2) -

NDMath, Alexcellent

With 5 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

[Micc]

NDMath has been lynched Day 3. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

It is now Night 3. The deadline for Night 3 is in (expired on 2020-01-21 02:45:00).

[Micc]

GayBabyJailor has been killed Night 3. They were a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

It is now Day 4.

Votecount 4.00

Not Voting (3) -

Egix96, Formerfish, Alexcellent

With 3 players alive it takes 2 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 03:00:00).

[Alexcellent]

Well I've been reading this game all wrong. I need to re-assess.

[Alexcellent]

VOTE: NDMath

L - 1

May as well do this actually I guess.

VOTE: NDM

Get rekt

These votes both stink so bad. Fish's at least is almost too blatantly bad to be scum.

[Alexcellent]

Beyond that it's mostly that I townread each of you and alex. I've been liking Alex's thought process and I struggle to picture you as last scum.

I was hoping for more but oh well. To me it just seems like you're trying to expand the poe.

Can you explain what you meant by this? What were you looking for from Math there?

[Alexcellent]

VOTE: NDM

Get rekt

Why the sudden hammer?

Ok, I know who scum is now.

Who is the scum?

[Egix96]

Beyond that it's mostly that I townread each of you and alex. I've been liking Alex's thought process and I struggle to picture you as last scum.

I was hoping for more but oh well. To me it just seems like you're trying to expand the poe.

Can you explain what you meant by this? What were you looking for from Math there?

That if he was going to dispute Former's town status, then that he would have a scum case against him or something like that.

pedit: Hey, I was just about to ask that. (2nd q)

[Formerfish]

Well shit, I was hoping that I'd die after I said that and the Gay Jesus would survive as the Neighbor, but i guess scum role copped him or they picked up on the fact that he was the nieghbor.

I can effort this in a day or so if you guys can give me that long.

Town should not vote yet because if they pick wrong scum can hammer and game is over.

I will say that if the other town person trusts me that they can vote not me and i wont quick hammer. That should clear me a little more. Gay Jesus trusted me, you should too.

[Egix96]

Yoda/Former/Alex Multi-Iso Pt 1

50 - "Nah, I like you Fish... I still applaud you for it." To me this reads as Yoda trying to get on Former's good side, so +town for Former.

64 - "I wouldn't say that my relationship with Fish is friendly." Even so, it does seem like Yoda was trying to establish a rapport with him.

81 - Alex: "Do you feel as though you're actually at risk of being lynched at the moment?"
Former: "No, even if I was I wouldn't care that much."
This feels like a risky attitude for Former to have if he is scum rolecop.

115 - On the other hand, this does read as quite disingenuous in hindsight, since imo it's quite obvious that DSJ was unconcerned about how he was read (which is generally a towny trait) - thus, I find DSJ's light-hearted and facetious response to have been justifiable.

123 - I was thinking, "do scum really double team up on a townie like that?" but, taking a moment to look at the context, Former and Yoda's votes on DSJ were not consecutive since Mercutio went in between.

182 - I'm actually not sure how to feel about this one - Yoda's actual reasoning for his vote on Former is really quite minor, and I don't really think that the whole "placeholder vote" thing is townspew since, when scums vote each other, they usually don't intend to keep it there permanently anyway.

201 - "Placeholder vote basically means that I am actively looking for a better option but I wouldn't be upset if the person did get lynched." - I will say though, if Yoda was voting scum!Former in order to distance, then this is being pretty open about it.

204 - Also, in a world where scum!Former was intentionally leaving out the possibility of an FN as an attempted derpclear, it seems strange (or perhaps I should say, counterproductive) for Yoda to point it out.

206 - Positioning of Yoda in this readslist is interesting as it leaves open the possibility of bussing further down the line - though yes, I'm aware that he put me in that tier as well.

231 - Slight +town for Former from this.

232 - (In response to 231) "I am still suspect of Fish but since the day is still young and I would still like to hear from the lurkers, I will *UNVOTE*. I guess doing a placeholder vote is a bad thing, so I will keep it to myself until I am ready." - To me this reads as Yoda attempting to damage-control after being called out, which is, again, +town for Former.

Stopping for today at ISO#97/253.

[Micc]

Prodding Alexcellent.

[Alexcellent]

Prod received, I'll be around tonight

[Alexcellent]

Yo Fish, might I enquire as to which evening GayBaby paid you a visit?

[Formerfish]

Not last night but the one before. The day I basically told him not to claim he had visited me the night before.

[Alexcellent]

Okay cool, I think I know which way I'm probably voting but I need to sleep on it and give it a last read through tomorrow.

[Egix96]

Part 2

264 - "I could imagine 1 scum hiding in the lurk."
To me, this reads more like, "I'm not gonna name any names, but {my buddy} is lurking" which seems to imply Alex (22 posts up to that point) > Former (39 posts up to that point)

267 - Very slight +town to Alex for asking this.

312, 314 - Former: "Non, I'm giving intent to hammer. Would you like to make a claim?"
Yoda: "I also have intent to hammer." - I doubt that both scums do this in such close proximity.

351 - "Town lean: 72/Alex"; "Slight Scum lean: Fish" - Does he really put his own buddy that high though (Alex is only two spots below Dsj)

=== END OF D1 ===

443 - I honestly don't see what purpose this post was meant to achieve. Just seems like filler.

458 - "isn't it better for the neighbour to be confirmed today to guarantee we go into D3 with a conf townie and have a smaller lynch pool?" I dislike this from Alex, it seems that if he is scum then he hadn't yet figured out who the FN was.

After that is where things get messier. There is that whole exchange between Former and Yoda which lasts from 490 to 503, but in the case of them being scumpartners (which, let's be honest, I doubt is the case, all things considered) a bit of theatre is to be expected.

527, 529 - Refer to my note on #458. Tbf tho I'm not sure how the maths work out for the chances of him not yet knowing who it was at that point. (Aside: I'm aware that both times he put it down to forgetfulness, and if that's because of a genuine memory issue, as 533 seems to imply, then I understand.)

[Formerfish]

Hey other town member.

Put a vote on the other player who isn't me.

I'll show you something cool.

[Alexcellent]

Part 2

264 - "I could imagine 1 scum hiding in the lurk."
To me, this reads more like, "I'm not gonna name any names, but {my buddy} is lurking" which seems to imply Alex (22 posts up to that point) > Former (39 posts up to that point)

You realise that you only had 16 posts at this point right? If Yoda was talking about a lurker then numbers wise it's more likely to be you.
Although at the time I read that as more of him throwing shade at Mercutio tbh

[Formerfish]

Alex are you town?

[Alexcellent]

Hey other town member.

Put a vote on the other player who isn't me.

I'll show you something cool.

95% of stuff you've done this game, including this post, sets off alarm bells for me. But also reading Egix ISO makes me think I'm in the middle of some epic troll job and you're somehow both scum

P-Edit

Yes

[Formerfish]

Vote egix