Ok, so, here's where we're at:
- Korina and Kanna are both mechanically confirmed town.
- Poyzin and shos are both mechanically confirmed cult.
- Fark, OS, BS and Hectic has the CL in it.
You guys sort through that please. I'm leaning towards Fark/Hectic for some reason atm.
Kanna cannot ever be culted, because I get culted next.
I am totally not a Korina alt. That would be absurd. Why would you ever think that I'm an alt of him?
I'd like to get Blatant flipped today. If not, Farkan tomorrow. Hectic feels different from other games. I can't get into the exact reasoning, but I don't think he's CL here.
Farkan's posting feels weird looking at it a little bit more as well.
I am totally not a Korina alt. That would be absurd. Why would you ever think that I'm an alt of him?
In post 855, ObviousScum wrote:okay why does CL set himself up for a 1v1 mechanical cross-claim unless he's playing 4D chess and wants to come off as a jestery culted?
He didn't get lynched right? Do you intend to Lynch him? No?
That's exactly the kind of wifom cult will play at 100% of the time
1) Korina is a tracker
2) Poyzin and shos were disaligned d1
There is no tracker in column C so we have to be in a column where there are 2 PRs. We have 2 claims and 1 counterclaim, therefore the not-counterclaimed PR must be true (korina), and the other two cannot be BOTH lying, otherwise we're missing a PR.
Out of shos vs poyzin, the only CL that makes logical sense is poyzin, because he was risking the lynch, shos wasn't. Shos is the one who might be playing the jestery CL, or a cultist wifoming to get a lynch on bingle followed by a lynch on poyzin - but if poyzin was sincere, he must have been recruited last night, there's no need to gambit today's lynch when they could just replace him. I am voting poyzin because i am pretty much certain of hitting cult, with a good chance of hitting the CL.
+1.
Consider bingles Lynch. He was being wagonned, he was at L-1, nobody was talking about me. You KNOW he wasn't the cult leader. So why would me-cult suddenly come and CC poy?
Also if it isn't clear yet korina is very very likely culted by now since I wasn't yet
In post 867, Hectic wrote:The point of waiting was to let cult!sh0s fakeclaim his FN onto one of his buddies, so he could get "confirmed", and implicate his buddy too. It's not likely but it's something sh0s could do if he thought we would believe him. You've made it explicitly clear that no one will though so there's no point now.
Just for the record
If I claimed to have FNed my cultbuddy/cultleader/new cult recruit, what would you think about it if it was confirmed?
For the record - let's say I say I FNed farkran and he confirms. What then? How bout obvscum? Blatantacum?
In post 870, Hectic wrote:So today, we have sh0s and Poyzin as cult. With one other cultist/CL. Two hypothetical scenarios:
DAY 2: We're at 3 cult, 5 town. We mislynch.
DAY 3: We go to 3 cult, 4 town. We have to lynch exactly the CL, or we lose.
DAY 2: We're at 3 cult, 5 town. We lynch a cultist.
DAY 3: We go to 3 cult, 4 town. We have to lynch exactly the CL, or we lose.
So we never lynch Poyzin here, because he was a town rolestopper that was culted, since sh0s is a confirmed cultist who was fakeclaiming.
The question is, why does sh0s fakeclaim Friendly Neighbour there as regular cultist? It just doesn't make any sense to me, since Bongle flipped town. I'm seriously considering if CL!him knows we'll see it as a regular cultist claim, and get passed off a non-CL. If he's a regular cultist, all it does is possibly move the lynch AWAY from Bungle, and ensure we'll never lynch him or take his reads seriously, therefore making it easier for us to lynch the CL.
In post 863, Farkran wrote:Out of shos vs poyzin, the only CL that makes logical sense is poyzin, because he was risking the lynch, shos wasn't. Shos is the one who might be playing the jestery CL, or a cultist wifoming to get a lynch on bingle followed by a lynch on poyzin - but if poyzin was sincere, he must have been recruited last night, there's no need to gambit today's lynch when they could just replace him. I am voting poyzin because i am pretty much certain of hitting cult, with a good chance of hitting the CL.
Poyzin is never the CL here. Because if Poyzin was cult/CL yesterday, he recruits Korina last night. sh0s would be town in this scenario and confirmable, and he would've claimed his target straight away. But he's obviously cult here.
Aaah I get it finally
Hectic is a cultist defending his master
That's why he's going balls to the walls
In post 908, shos wrote:sorry for the delay i'll be phoneposting soon. targeted nobody tonight
Ok, this is proof the rolestopper was real. Not because he targeted nobody (which is obviously a bad move in itself), but because he waited for korina to speak first.
Korina is still town, poyzin is culted but not CL, kanna is town, shos is probably not CL.
I am like 95% certain CL is within {bs > hectic > os}, i'd go for that specific order. Cultists are shos and poyzin. Flipping me means you are lynching 1/3 instead of 2/3. Remember i claimed VT in my very first post of this game.
In post 920, Farkran wrote:Korina is still town, poyzin is culted but not CL, kanna is town, shos is probably not CL.
VOTE: BS
if you were so strong on poyzin being the CL because under pressure you think CL would claim TPR, why do you think CL doesn't CC with a FN claim to create wifom? given your insistence that poyzin was CL I'm kinda surprised you're blowing past shos CL possibilities now
I admit i am tunneling at this point, but why would you only consider Hectic and Kanna for that specific reasoning? I mean, even in your quotes they are mostly talking about me and my posts. How i am not included in that specific reasoning? I could see disagreement bias since i am pushing you, but i'd like to ask you what makes me less town than kanna and hectic from your POV if you assume i am pushing "player x" instead of "poyzin".
You’re probably town, but I don’t think I can make a proper read of your alignment based on your tunnel on me without it being impacted by my personal opinions about it. “No lynch” player is probably a cultist, but I’m not sure about if they are the cult leader.
Kind of curious if Kanna decides to say that they get “weak town” vibes off of my post that town read them; seems like Kanna wants to give me assurance that I’m “onto something” with my reads.
My vote isn’t really useful right now so I’m going to place it somewhere more useful.
