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Post Post #7150 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm

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In post 7150, Venus and Mars wrote:I’m thinking if chk was on us, we could avoid scum hitting us with a loyal modiifier and making our role useless, because scum hitting us with a loyal would suck most of all.
I’m okay with dying today or tonight or whatever but not with getting loyal.
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Post Post #7151 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:58 pm

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And you're gassing "when it's optimal play" right?
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Post Post #7152 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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Hmm, does loyal prevent the action entirely or just the target's death? That's exploitable btw.
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Post Post #7153 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:50 pm

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In post 7153, davesaz wrote:Hmm, does loyal prevent the action entirely or just the target's death? That's exploitable btw.
If renegade gave me a loyal, it would obviously mean I could only bomb town, so there would be 2 guaranteed town deaths if it worked but if they didn’t die, I probably still would and they’d of course be confiscum in that case.
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Post Post #7154 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:52 pm

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I'm still kind of struggling to understand why you don't bomb today tbh? If you wait for an even number, you blow and two people die. Then we're still at an even number. So...?
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Post Post #7155 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:55 pm

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In post 7152, chkflip wrote:And you're gassing "when it's optimal play" right?
I’m okay bombing whenever. Rn, I can still hit scum, same if I’m rolestopped. But even if Adorable is very likely scum, who are the other 3? Who are we wrongly tr?
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Post Post #7156 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:58 pm

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In post 7155, chkflip wrote:I'm still kind of struggling to understand why you don't bomb today tbh? If you wait for an even number, you blow and two people die. Then we're still at an even number. So...?
So, I can do that too. Shiro was saying he’s okay with us being NK’d but then he didn’t take into account renegade, so I think we either bomb today or we get RS’d and we holster but I’m fine bombing today.

If I do, it’s probably Adorable then.
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Post Post #7157 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:59 pm

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In post 7155, chkflip wrote:I'm still kind of struggling to understand why you don't bomb today tbh? If you wait for an even number, you blow and two people die. Then we're still at an even number. So...?
Oh so you think it’s optimal for us to bomb today? Okay, some people earlier were saying I was being anti-town, so I wanted to rethink it.
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Post Post #7158 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:01 pm

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Well, we have 11 1/2 days so probably best I do it either closer to EoD or should I just get it over with asap?
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Post Post #7159 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:02 pm

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I might just have an anti-town mentality? Idk. I just don't get how it helps.
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Post Post #7160 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:03 pm

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Waiting is definitely for the best. I agree with that.
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Post Post #7161 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:14 pm

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So: non-targets (in no particular order)

Titus,
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Post Post #7162 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:36 pm

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In post 6479, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 6214, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 6205, Amrun wrote:And to clarify, I only send dead fish, period. Not laundry. I never targeted Nancy for any reason.
So a regular Fruit (Fish) Vendor? For a Rolecop and a Tracker to see I guess that works out, and also me.
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I did confirm being tracked. But I got the PM after daystart and after my chara claim.
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Post Post #7163 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:39 pm

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In post 7092, davesaz wrote:I was mistaken about there being a 2nd laundry claim.

Modifier claims:
N1: Titus (desperate), BEF (Ascetic)
N2: Me (didn't say and outing it isn't helpful to town), can't remember (can't remember)

It would be much harder to find the 2nd modifier claim for N2, as it's not easily ctrl-f. If anyone knows please post.

Remember we have to assume renegade is motivated in order for there to be two modifiers given. This could mean that one modifier is fake.
I never claimed or received a modifier.
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Post Post #7164 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:58 pm

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If scum makes us loyal I see that as an absolute win.

Nothing changes if we target town and we become a day cop on scum instead of dying.

Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no downside.
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Post Post #7165 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:58 pm

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In post 7165, Venus and Mars wrote:If scum makes us loyal I see that as an absolute win.

Nothing changes if we target town and we become a day cop on scum instead of dying.

Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no downside.
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Post Post #7166 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:12 pm

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Boonskie's last post was on Jan 26 and he mentioned he won't be available tomorrow and I recommend you wait till he comes back for me to say anything else.
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Post Post #7167 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:45 pm

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In post 7165, Venus and Mars wrote:If scum makes us loyal I see that as an absolute win.

Nothing changes if we target town and we become a day cop on scum instead of dying.

Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no downside.
Which is great but I dunno why scum would do that. Or give you that power.
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Post Post #7168 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:49 pm

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In post 7168, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 7165, Venus and Mars wrote:If scum makes us loyal I see that as an absolute win.

Nothing changes if we target town and we become a day cop on scum instead of dying.

Unless I am misunderstanding something, there is no downside.
Which is great but I dunno why scum would do that. Or give you that power.
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Post Post #7169 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:54 pm

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Loyal would mean you only blow up town.
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Post Post #7170 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:57 pm

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I get what they're saying. Loyal doesn't make the role better it just changes how it functions.
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Post Post #7171 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:00 pm

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So loyal would make it so no action occurs if their target is scum. Like a day use alignment check and a town target just follows the standard roles function.
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Post Post #7172 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:10 pm

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In post 7172, RCEnigma wrote:So loyal would make it so no action occurs if their target is scum. Like a day use alignment check and a town target just follows the standard roles function.
Which I find strictly better, we live on scum and function normally on town

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Post Post #7173 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:15 pm

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If you target town it doesn't change anything. It also requires scum deciding to give you the modifier so it's kind of a moot point.
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Post Post #7174 (ISO) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:37 pm

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8 am discussing it because Nancy was afraid of it and wanted us rolestopped. 8 am against that because scum killing us gives us ton of info since they know we can kill at day.

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