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[Firebringer]

Part of me thinks ur survivalism is just directly tied to just stealing the venge for a free kill as scum.

Other part is still screaming ur dumb townie.

I think dumb townie always wins but it really bothers me ur not actually analyzing my defense of u as anything. Like no comment in general if it’s scum motivated. It’s just on the hypothetical flip being very beneficial

[Firebringer]

I am pretty sure I could have hammered u and taken the venge but u didn’t pick this up when u think I am scum?

[Firebringer]

I am too lazy to go count. I think I had opportunity to hammer u for awhile and did nothing. I would think if ur town that’s something u would point out to everyone or say something about to get people to unvote because U think my slot is scum.

But didn’t happen.


That is bizarre

[Firebringer]

I am sticking to dumb townie

[EspressoPatronum]

It's also demotivating when you think scum are fairly obvious but people just wanna not do anything. But then again,

I'm not supposed to talk about this without doing something in return.

So once again let me ask, if Nom flips town who do you guys go for
Same if Nom flips scum

And if nom is town who are the scum on the wagon

I appreciate you doing this, MariaR!

If nom flips town, I'd say FB and Ank look more like scum. FB for mechanical reasons bcz I think commuters have 1 scum + Ank for pushing a mislynch.

If nom flips scum, FB and Ank look better as town. FB for mechanical reasons (as above) + Ank for pushing a scum lynch.

I haven't yet considered how nom's flip will impact my read on other slots.

For wagonomics specifically, this is all as good as guesswork, but I'd say that town!nom probably has at least 1 scum sitting comfy on the wagon. 1 other would probably come in near the end. Maybe another on a non-nom wagon. The weird thing though is that scum!nom probably has the same wagon setup. I could see 1 scum sitting on the wagon for distancing +/ disassociation reasons + 1 or more scum lynching nom on the tail end once her lynch is close to guaranteed.

[EspressoPatronum]

there are plenty of occasions where people will know I am town, for example if FB flips scum then I am confirmed town thanks to my hood and we can have the doctor hood protect me.

Think about this one or two seconds and you'll realize how much of a bad idea this is.

God u keep spouting this stupidity.

This isn’t how setup spec works.

It’s very possible for both of us to be scum.
Neither of us are.

But this line of thinking is just speculative trash

"Confirmed" is a bit strong imo, but I'd say a scum flip in your hood suggests the other is town.

[nomnomnom]

FB I'm not wagonning DEB here no way

[Firebringer]

I could have hammered u, go to the back of the line and think about what u did wrong now.

[nomnomnom]

Im too tired for this today

[Firebringer]

Putting forward mental energy for mafia was ur first mistake

[Gammagooey]

It's also demotivating when you think scum are fairly obvious but people just wanna not do anything. But then again,

I'm not supposed to talk about this without doing something in return.

So once again let me ask, if Nom flips town who do you guys go for
Same if Nom flips scum

And if nom is town who are the scum on the wagon

I appreciate you doing this, MariaR!

If nom flips town, I'd say FB and Ank look more like scum. FB for mechanical reasons bcz I think commuters have 1 scum + Ank for pushing a mislynch.

If nom flips scum, FB and Ank look better as town. FB for mechanical reasons (as above) + Ank for pushing a scum lynch.

boo mechanical reasons

I do think dave looks pretty sketch assuming a nom scum flip from calling nom a weak scum read and then never getting around to voting her over DV

tbf I'm not the greatest advocate of DV either though aaand I could see DV bussing given that most people have been too lazy to get another lynch through today (except for maybe DEB) and it's kind of been settled that someone's going to get lynched very slowly today and if that's the case why not bus and get a ton of cred out of it to ride out the rest of the game. I will say that ALL of dave/DV/nom being scum is too much paranoia even for me and I don't think that's the case, but 2 out of 3 wouldn't surprise me.

[Gammagooey]

Part of me thinks ur survivalism is just directly tied to just stealing the venge for a free kill as scum.

Other part is still screaming ur dumb townie.

I think dumb townie always wins but it really bothers me ur not actually analyzing my defense of u as anything. Like no comment in general if it’s scum motivated. It’s just on the hypothetical flip being very beneficial

man it's almost like you're coming to the same conclusion I did when I thought she wasn't really analyzing any of her townreads

[Dr Easy Bake]

FB I'm not wagonning DEB here no way

Trying to get me on your good side...

[chennisden]

there are plenty of occasions where people will know I am town, for example if FB flips scum then I am confirmed town thanks to my hood and we can have the doctor hood protect me.

Think about this one or two seconds and you'll realize how much of a bad idea this is.

HOW DOES THIS CONFIRM YOU AS TOWN
HOW

[chennisden]

i think dv is a cool place to vote

[chennisden]

nom? probably town (tragic i know)
fb? idk. wouldn't be surprised if he was scum, but also not if he was town
dv? not sure how this isn't the definition of a) opportunism b) saying things that SOUNDS nice but really is bad

[Almost50]

Hey almost, you're townreading nom right? I skimmed your iso a bit and saw it seemed like it was mostly from the volpe nightkill - can you explain that for me or if you've got other reasons for it lay that out for me? I'd agree that volpe isn't likely what nom-scum would want if you ignored the rest of a scumteam existing, but he was also one of the more highly townread people in the game at the time too.

Well, by tone.. by stances.. by her anger.. I mean, everything points to her being town here. I even searched her previous games and linked a scum game in our PT, and asked Ank to show me what similarities she sees in nom's play here to that game, and I don't think I got an answer from Ank.

Game I linked

Can someone please show me similarities to nom's play in that game and her play in this game?

[Almost50]

^voting your TR is a bad move, trust me. Not "scummy", but bad in the sense that you are giving in to the wrong side. I did it most recently and it almost cost us the game (but PP was nice enough to scum claim as the last scum and thus save the town from itself)

What exactly do you think we should do then? People are you gonna hide behind Nom scumreads the whole game when we have people like FL/DEB who need to go. I don't know how I feel about DV enough to lynch him and we got a few days left.

1- We lynch DEB. We lynch bloody DEB. We don't lynch nom to get a DEB lynch in the future!!!

2- You don't know how you feel about DV, so you vote nom whom you do know how you feel about??????

[Almost50]

FB I'm not wagonning DEB here no way

Then I won't be defending you anymore, tbh. It's your own head and you're still adamant not to vote someone galf the game is scum reading and the other is undecided on him?? Like, the only TR I saw on DEB came from FL, and you claim to be SRing FL. WTF?

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma is the one who claimed town on DEB first, I believe, so idk why I was called out there.

If DEB is town, his mislynch can be avoided by catching other scum. I just feel like DEB’s the wagon that’s “supposed to happen”, which usually means scum is going for it.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Ank - are there people,pushing for DEB now who weren’t on the wagon earlier, because that’s probably scum indicative.

[Firebringer]

nom? probably town (tragic i know)

Yes.

[Firebringer]

@Ank - are there people,pushing for DEB now who weren’t on the wagon earlier, because that’s probably scum indicative.

Me

[DeasVail]

I still want to lynch nom

[Firebringer]

I think we should listen to me. I am obviously well informed. Obviously I know everyones alignment. I know it all. Scum role pms are useful here.

So lets buss my ally DEB.