Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RCEnigma]

I think I'm sticking to a townread on Flopz. Like, newbie town. I mean no disrespect.

Completely agree on Xtoxm and shos not together, but +++++chance of 1 scum in there.

And my latest hottest take rn is something I will only take action on if Xoxm is scum -> Math is scum

My only problem with a Math/Xtoxm/Tris(at the time) scumteam is that I'm definitely not a priority nightkill over stronger players like RC/Skitter/Ari/you.

I play a largely social game, Xtoxm mostly not playing probably gets a tunnel but we both know he has before and can potentially fool me here with actual participation. I can't really rule out math making that kill because I had only just started warming up to him as town and Tris I was defending from RC when her allies we're kind of jumping ship.

[Iconeum]

hmmm lemme go check smt

[teacher]

I'm a simple doc btw

can only target vanilla roles

Wait you were going to target RC the claimed detective????

Apologies if this has been done. Just reading since daystart.

[Iconeum]

My wagon is a mix of radiantscumfuck, wolfy slots and a bunch of people who don't really think I'm scum but want the day over.

Anyone who thinks this hits red is deluded.

where the fuck are my teammates?

This might actually be the grossest mislynch I've seen in two years and I've seen some pretty dense mislynches. You are lynching a townie to try and fix the gamestate. I am clearly not the scumslot in this dichotomy and I am not the problem. EVEN AFTER SPAM POSTING MY THOUGHTS I STILL HAVE LESS THAN HALF HIS POSTS.

When I green:
- nobody touches math for the rest of the game.
- nobody touches rce for the rest of the game.
- nobody touches ico for the rest of the game.
- RC is lynched tomorrow. He autodies.
- I don't think RC was bussing Ari this phase but that's not for me to decide.

If anyone breaks from this path they are outright fucking gamethrowing.

it's not out of this world that scum decided to kill in these reads

[Iconeum]

oh yeah, this confirms duckling/RC was in fact TvT.

Seriously tho, most of these ugly fights tend to be just that

[RCEnigma]

My wagon is a mix of radiantscumfuck, wolfy slots and a bunch of people who don't really think I'm scum but want the day over.

Anyone who thinks this hits red is deluded.

where the fuck are my teammates?

This might actually be the grossest mislynch I've seen in two years and I've seen some pretty dense mislynches. You are lynching a townie to try and fix the gamestate. I am clearly not the scumslot in this dichotomy and I am not the problem. EVEN AFTER SPAM POSTING MY THOUGHTS I STILL HAVE LESS THAN HALF HIS POSTS.

When I green:
- nobody touches math for the rest of the game.
- nobody touches rce for the rest of the game.
- nobody touches ico for the rest of the game.
- RC is lynched tomorrow. He autodies.
- I don't think RC was bussing Ari this phase but that's not for me to decide.

If anyone breaks from this path they are outright fucking gamethrowing.

it's not out of this world that scum decided to kill in these reads

Fair enough.

Was there anyone not willing to make a hard stance on RC near EOD 1?

[teacher]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

[shos]

I jailkept rce night one

Btw I'd totally go for an RCE ISO today with possibility of lynch

You realize an jailkeep and no night kill can implicate either a save or a guilty, right?
Why so quick to draw lynch conclusion?

Do you really think someone would shoot RCE N1?

[Iconeum]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

can you rephrase your question?

[Iconeum]

Do you really think someone would shoot RCE N1?

IIRC, RCE was widely townread by the EoD1, and he was in the duck's final will as unlyncheable this game.

I'm saying it's not as unlikely as people are assuming

[shos]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

can you rephrase your question?

OU GOOD STUFF

He claimed detective, i.e. not vanilla, so how comes you thought to protect him?

[Iconeum]

you guys believed that early D1 claim?

[teacher]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

can you rephrase your question?

RC was claimed detective.
You can only protect vanilla.
Why would you plan to save someone who, if town and honest, you could not save?

[Iconeum]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

can you rephrase your question?

RC was claimed detective.
You can only protect vanilla.
Why would you plan to save someone who, if town and honest, you could not save?

have you ever played any game before with RC?

[Iconeum]

RC's meta is literally Always claim early D1 as any allignment, VT, or PR

[Iconeum]

did *anyone* here actually believe that claim?

[teacher]

He hard repeated it. Now, it’s RC so of course a grain or half bottle of salt, but ....

To be clear (since there are maths around who need it all spelled out), I still very very much townread both your play and your claim, I was just looking to understand the new details in light of the earlier thought process

[teacher]

I softed protective when I went against RC on D1 saying I thought it was incredibly unlikely he would be NK'd. At that time I thought to be protecting him. By the end of D1, I considered Math was the most likely NK.

Anyone saying after this that scum DELIBERATELY NK'd is either drunk or scum

??????
Like how could a “vanilla doc” do this, ya? Am I missing something.

can you rephrase your question?

RC was claimed detective.
You can only protect vanilla.
Why would you plan to save someone who, if town and honest, you could not save?

have you ever played any game before with RC?

One played, two modded I believe. And don’t recall that but saw reference to it this game, so I get that. But I thought he was approaching the claim differently thank just a lolclaim by mid-D1. It’s not important for the reason I said last post, but just something that stuck out to me.

[Iconeum]

I mean, if you continue your thoughts then you are assuming that I:

1)Faked an inno Math, saving him from RC. RC, who's town, would have had 2 mislynches on his name. He gets lynched D3 if I let him hang Math.
2)Crumb and hint towards having protected math, only to be forced out by RC? And on D3 I start turning my read on Math? For what?

I think you know my play is only compatible with town, not scum

But I understand your paranoia lol

[teacher]

Hi,

So that's a really weird kill, I was sure that scum would go after ico as a claimed doc. So I jail kept him last night to protect him.

I jailkept rce night one, which was why I was so waffly on my read yesterday - I thought he was town but the no kill really confused me.
It's also why j was less happy to just jump on 'we have two conf town'.
I'm outing this now as my role was only n1-2. Obviously there is a world in which rce and ico are both scum, mechanically.

@teacher, skitter, thoughts?

What do we make of Ari town casing saud after I was wanting to lynch him while we were wagoning shos?

Very interesting (quick thoughts while I get dressed for school)

1. RC called out ari-tris(saud) associatives D1 frequently. I also think the wagon in1801 and whatever the D2 wagon on ari is feels mostly town.

2. That said, I have real faith in skit’s meta-ari town read, and skit herself was pushing against saud as well.

3. RCE as a jail target is complicated, because I could definitely see him being selected to do the kill if paired with tris and xtomx. But I do pretty strongly townread him.

4. My preferred lynch until the slot gets content is xtomx. I actually townread shos fairly well.

[Bellaphant]

Rce was one of my strongest TRS going into night one - it was a toss up between you and him! But yes, he makes sense as the killer in a highly suspected team. I was so quiet yesterday BC I suddenly had doubt! He's good enough atthe social aspects of the game to deep wolf.

I think my issue is it seems too easy to have 2 or more sscums in some of the least productive slots of the game - it's never that easy.

[Iconeum]

I think my issue is it seems too easy to have 2 or more sscums in some of the least productive slots of the game - it's never that easy.

who are you talking about if you say that?

[teacher]

For deep wolf I see RCE as more likely than math. Math has been off base (@shos, that may have been my favorite ever image), but shows a consistent mindset and effort to solve. RCE has been more laidback, but I still really townread him and view him as a more likely killer than killer. Regardless, I have no interest in lynching either today, and would put the odds of both being town fairly high. Today for me is sorting xtomx and ari some more.

[teacher]

more likely killer than killer.

Autocorrect. More likely killee than killer.

[Flopz]

Also, Math got forced into a game with RC because he replaced in, not because the system failed and not because RC is on that many blacklists (I dont know that he is or isnt, but assuming so based on bad data is simply bad.)

i was refering to myself there, not math.

gonna be very v/la for the next ~40hrs
see y'all in couple days
VOTE: unvote

I would say that it is interesting that when Shos was on L-1, Xtoxm unvoted and disappeared again.