Everything Is Still A Lie v2 [Canceled]

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 1.9

a Gun and a Rose (5):

Minstrel, DreamingLich, ObviousScum, polypies73, TrueSoulHustler

ceejayvinoya (0):

PeaHen (0):

Doctor Easy Bake (0):

50 Judge Powers (0):

Minstrel (0):

zeebu (0):

Chemist1422 (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

Iconeum (0):

Rautherdir (0):

VaultDweller (0):

DreamingLich (0):

TrueSoulHustler (0):

ObviousScum (0):

The Fonz (0):

JacksonVirgo (0):

Jake The Wolfie (0):

polypies73 (0):

Very cool and not mafia (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting (17):

ceejayvinoya, PeaHen, Doctor Easy Bake, 50 Judge Powers, zeebu, a Gun and a Rose, Chemist1422, Doctor Drew, Iconeum, Rautherdir, VaultDweller, The Fonz, JacksonVirgo, Jake The Wolfie, Very cool and not mafia, The Jury, chkflip
With

22

votes in play, it takes

12

of them to lynch somebody.

(expired on 2020-02-11 06:00:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

:
- Remember: Flavor can be more than flavor in this game.
- Korina is V/LA on weekends.
- Iconeum is V/LA on weekends.
- Dr Easy Bake is V/LA on Tuesday and Thursday.
- Rautherdir is V/LA until Saturday, February 1st, 2020.
- Minstrel is lynchproof for today.

Whisper Check

Spoiler: Whispers Remaining

Chemist1422

- Three whispers left.

insomnia

- Four whispers left.

Korina

- Four whispers left.

ObviousScum

- Four whispers left.

polypies73

- Five whispers left.

Iconeum

- Six whispers left.

a Gun and a Rose

- Six whispers left.

Rautherdir

- Six whispers left.

Very cool and not mafia

- Six whispers left.

The Fonz

- Six whispers left.

Dr Easy Bake

- Six whispers left.

JacksonVirgo

- Six whispers left.

[Minstrel]

vc

[Minstrel]

You missed our vote, Korina.

-Hectic

[ObviousScum]

Gose might be too subtle on who you mean

[Korina]

Rose tantrum starts at #1070, yea?

Yeah.

-Hectic

So, to me it kinda comes off as genuine? I kinda got vibes of Newbie 1949 from his posting, specifically Korina v Mena. Outside of that, I feel like Mena's frustration about people trying to seriously solve a non-serious game is also valid; although, I feel it's more likely to come from scum than town. Personally, considering insomnia's flip, I don't really feel like AGAAR becomes

that

much scummier after it. I kinda skimmed insomnia's ISO, and I don't feel like it's overwhelmingly scummy, but also not overwhelmingly townie either. I could see Mena seeing insomnia as scum and pushing them because of that.

The other thing I do wanna look at is how quickly AGAAR got four votes on them. I don't think in this type of game, four townies all agree to push someone like that. It's confirmed mafia/cult multiball, and possibly other scum factions, so I feel like it's very feasible that multiple scum are pushing them, which leads me to believe AGAAR is townie by extension? I'm not really sure. I'm just really concerned about the fact that my dayvig got redirected to insomnia.

[Korina]

Oh, was that who it was supposed to be on? I couldn't tell.

[Minstrel]

(Gose is my nickname for Gun and Rose.)

I mean, I don't think it's much subtler than "Obum".

-Hectic

[Korina]

Yea, I couldn't tell who it was meant to be on. I roughly figured it was AGAAR, but I couldn't tell, so I didn't count it.

[ObviousScum]

Korina how can you dayvig while dead

Are you a zombie?

[Korina]

My role flip was tampered with. Even though I am dead, I get the ability to use one of my actions per day/night. I chose to vig Vault because they're the "IC".

[Korina]

Because I vig'd insomnia, I'm not allowed to take any of my other abilities tonight.

[Minstrel]

Lul, I might have a look at that game after I get some sleep. I think most of the votes after mine were revotes that were removed after the insomnia flip vote reset.

Not sure what to make of Korina hard defending them. Cult equity definitely up, but not sure about scum/town equity. Maybe they're SK.

-Hectic

[Korina]

Once again Hectic, I'm the CL. Why would I hard defend my cultist?

[Minstrel]

Yea, I couldn't tell who it was meant to be on. I roughly figured it was AGAAR, but I couldn't tell, so I didn't count it.

Can it be retroactively added? I want to be first on the wagon. It gets crowded and uncomfortable when you're further down.

-Hectic

[Minstrel]

Once again Hectic, I'm the CL. Why would I hard defend my cultist?

I don't get what you mean by that. Why wouldn't you hard defend your cultists? Because we'd suspect them even more?

-Hectic

[polypies73]

gun and rose is some mportant role integral to the game lul

[Korina]

Yea, I'll do it. Next time though, please make sure everyone understand who you're trying to vote for.

Pedit: I am the CL. I'm allowed to use one of my abilities each day/night. If I'm dead, nobody can target me with any actions; therefore, the cult is guaranteed to recruit someone each night, (unless I hit scum, in which case, I simply dayvig them.) The cultist would be expendable more or less. The only reasonable exception would be that they are a motivator, who can also target dead people, allowing me to vig and cult, (or something like that), my role purposefully suicides N0, and we've planned this entire thing from the beginning. If that's the case, yea, I could see an argument for them being cult, but like, why wouldn't I just not vig people and instead cult over and over?

[Korina]

Also, there's the universe where AGAAR isn't even cult to begin with, and I chose to hard defend them because I said I was gonna troll the fuck out of this game.

[Korina]

Also, since I brought it up, let's talk about Vault. They're an IC, but not mod-confirmed town.

[Doctor Drew]

I thought you wanted to day vig me Korina?

Scared of the actual CL?

[Korina]

Drew, bb, shush. I got this.

[Korina]

Also, like, yea, I wanted to, but ik the "IC" isn't cult-aligned, so no matter what shooting them is better for me.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, like, yea, I wanted to, but ik the "IC" isn't cult-aligned, so no matter what shooting them is better for me.

Fair point.

[50 Judge Powers]

@Mod: Why wasn't Insomnia's flip reflected in the OP yet?

Also, linking each flipped role in the OP with the actual posted Role PM would be nice, if it's not much trouble. It'd make life easier for all of us than ISO'ing you (the tampering with flips thing will probably keep me looking and re-looking at the flips every time we gain a new piece of info).

Thanks in advance.

I also wanted to ask about how you choose your kills (dayvig) and recruits (if you have a say on the matter).. etc. Like, you already know everything, so if it's not randomized I'd say there is no point trying to defeat the cult anyway. (Remember, it's my first time playing in an EISAL setup, and I don't think I have ever played a game with someone who was also modding the game before).

[JacksonVirgo]

insomnia has been dayvig'd! All votes will be reset, and nothing else.

Spoiler: insomnia Role PM

Simple Indecisive Self-Targetable Multitasking Blackmail Immune Spy

Everything Is Still A Lie v2

Welcome, insomnia! You are a

Simple Indecisive Self-Targetable Multitasking Blackmail Immune Spy

, and aligned with

The Town

.

Abilities:
~ Each night, you will passively receive who

The Mafia

visited, unless you are roleblocked.
~ Thrice per game, you may watch over someone at night and receive all feedback they would be sent.
~ Thrice per game, you may bug someone at night and receive all whispers sent to/from that player.

Modifiers:
~ You cannot target, nor be targeted by any player with the Complex or Complicated modifier.
~ You cannot target the same player twice in a row.
~ You may target yourself.
~ You may take multiple actions per night.
~ You cannot be blackmailed, and you will be informed if someone tries to blackmail you.

Game Thread:
~ The game thread may be located here.

Victory Condition:
~ You, and the

Town

win once

all threats to the

Town

are eliminated, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm you have read your role-card by

summarizing your entire role PM.

There was a last will found besides the body.

Spoiler: Insomnia Last Will

Not really liking Hectic's vote on me, I feel like he could've focused on literally anyone else, I was gone for a few months. I feel like he wanted to impress me somehow by voting me. It doesn't have the sort of RVS vibe to it.

I've also only played one game with Hectic, so him saying that makes me roll my eyes in my head.

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Chemist reply reminds me of a game where he was scum. Or maybe it was town. But him reacting like that to my question I also found weird. Maybe less of an actual scum read on Chemist because I think he's more likely to just not focus much on RVS posts, but definitely something to consider.

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Iconeum's progression barely makes any sense, unless that initial post was a joke. Which I presume to be semi-serious, given the back track in his next post.

My interpretation of that is that he scum read Menstral / had a gut ping / some form of suspicion, saw the trial on him, thought "Wow, ok, nice". Instead of actually checking on it at first, he thought it was a good idea, but then he looks at the Jury slot and thinks "Hmm, this is shady". The jury literally just announced that Menstral was on trial, I don't see how "Good, trial time" is followed by "Meh but that slot is weird", on a slot that gave you what you...wanted. Seems like a scum backtracking, looking to react to stuff, not having any actual stance on anybody yet.

What does Blackmailer do here?