BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Weiss Schnee]

That would require you to be lying about being weak

[Weiss Schnee]

Otherwise u'd be ded

[Weiss Schnee]

oh you mean if you were loyal and you failed?

ehhhh yeah that's a niche I guess

that's a slightly more elaborate gambit from bambi than I'd expect but not totally impossible

[Weiss Schnee]

Where is "Announcing" as a modifier described? Is it the same as loud?

@BEF -- Didn't you get an announcement from Creature n2?

Where is "Announcing" as a modifier described? Is it the same as loud?@BEF -- Didn't you get an announcement from Creature n2?

Spoiler:

DEAD TOWN

CHK
CLAIM: rolestopper
N1: a50
N2: bambi

Fonz --
n2 - Chemist

LIVING PLAYERS

50 Judge Powers
CLAIM: 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor
N1: targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. [CHK claims to have rolestopped 50 judge this night] --> 50 Judge survives,

Consequence: Nips is town

, 50 judge's shot is not recharged,

Consequence: nips is miller?

-- for more discussion on these conclusions, see 8037
N2: No action/nothing received
N3: No action/nothing received

CLAIM: Announcing Jack of all Trades (cop, PT cop, track) that resets after all of the abilities are used
N1: Copped A50 - no result -- A50 was rolestopped by CHK
D1: Lost both cop and PT cop due to juvenile deliquent and technically became a tracker
N2: Tracked BEF - visited Chara
N3: Tracked Titus - no result [Titus became ascetic?]

Haggle
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doctor Neighbor
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider --> Odd-night Weak Loyal Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry --> Action confirmed by Bambi, Consequence

Chemist claims same-alignment as Creature, and is always lynched before Creature if in doubt

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara [

reminder, Chara was nk'd this night

]
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing. [presumbly either chemist or creature?]

Amrun
CLAIM: dead fish vendor
N1: fish to Titus [confirmed by Titus]
N2: fish to Adorable/Weiss [confirmed by Weiss]
N3: fish to Fonz [

reminder, Fonz was nk'd this night

]

Bambi Jay
CLAIM: Odd-night Follower, Even-night Voyeur
N1: Follow Chara (result "Chara went nowhere")
N2: Voyeur Titus --> Action failed. [CHK claimed a rolestop on Bambi Jay n2, thus making action fail on Titus not due to roleblock shot]
N3: Followed Chemist because he claimed loyal hider and wanted to confirm if his action succeeded or failed. It succeeded. [perhaps cross-confirmed by BEF?]

RCEnigma
CLAIM: joat (1shot disloyal vig, 1 shot RB, 1 shot?) --> Ascetic JOAT
N1: disloyal vig: bef (Ascetic modifier received)

Permanent modifier #1 claimed

N2: no action
N3: no action

Emperor flippyNips
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Weiss Schnee
CLAIM: Non-Consective rolecop
N1: copped bambi - Result: Follower/Voyeur
d1: cop enabler flipped d1
N2: received dead fish
N3: [nothing]

Claim: Neighborizer --> Desperate Neighborizer --> Ascetic Desperate Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish [A50 was rolestopped by chk]

Permanent modifiers #2 given N1

N2: Venus and Mars [action failed, V&M flipped town]
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

davesaz
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

CONSEQUENCE
Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Multiple claims of permanent mods strongly implies a renegade as boon bank/variant (maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

need to dig up profii's card from LNT to see what an inventor looks like

[Titus]

Nips didn't cc chk50 who faked Miller until after A50 "cleared" him.

VOTE: RCE

Of course moonlogic is Davesaz and chemist scum so each "team" has an investigative.

[Titus]

maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

RCE might be just symbiotic though.

[BrightEyedFish]

Where is "Announcing" as a modifier described? Is it the same as loud?

@BEF -- Didn't you get an announcement from Creature n2?

Spoiler:

DEAD TOWN

CHK
CLAIM: rolestopper
N1: a50
N2: bambi

Fonz -- no one ever received any messages?

LIVING PLAYERS

50 Judge Powers
CLAIM: 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor
N1: targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. [CHK claims to have rolestopped 50 judge this night] --> 50 Judge survives,

Consequence: Nips is town

, 50 judge's shot is not recharged,

Consequence: nips is miller?

-- for more discussion on these conclusions, see 8037
N2: No action/nothing received
N3: No action/nothing received

CLAIM: Announcing Jack of all Trades (cop, PT cop, track) that resets after all of the abilities are used
N1: Copped A50 - no result -- A50 was rolestopped by CHK
D1: Lost both cop and PT cop due to juvenile deliquent and technically became a tracker
N2: Tracked BEF - visited Chara
N3: Tracked Titus - no result [Titus became ascetic?]

Haggle
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doc
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider --> Odd-night Weak Loyal Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry --> Action confirmed by Bambi, Consequence

Chemist claims same-alignment as Creature, and is always lynched before Creature if in doubt

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing. [presumbly either chemist or creature?]

Amrun
CLAIM: dead fish vendor
N1: fish to Titus [confirmed by Titus]
N2: fish to Adorable/Weiss [confirmed by Weiss]
N3: fish to Fonz

Bambi Jay
CLAIM: Odd-night Follower, Even-night Voyeur
N1: Follow Chara (result "Chara went nowhere")
N2: Voyeur Titus --> Action failed. [CHK claimed a rolestop on Bambi Jay n2, thus making action fail on Titus not due to roleblock shot]
N3: Followed Chemist because he claimed loyal hider and wanted to confirm if his action succeeded or failed. It succeeded. [perhaps cross-confirmed by BEF?]

RCEnigma
CLAIM: joat (1shot disloyal vig, 1 shot RB, 1 shot?) --> Ascetic JOAT
N1: disloyal vig: bef (Ascetic modifier received)

Permanent modifier #1 claimed

N2: no action
N3: no action

Emperor flippyNips
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Weiss Schnee
CLAIM: Non-Consective rolecop
N1: copped bambi - Result: Follower/Voyeur
d1: cop enabler flipped d1
N2: received dead fish
N3: [nothing]

Claim: Neighborizer --> Desperate Neighborizer --> Ascetic Desperate Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish [A50 was rolestopped by chk]

Permanent modifiers #2 given N1

N2: Venus and Mars [action failed, V&M flipped town]
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

davesaz
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Yes I did. Chemist was my N3 target.

[Weiss Schnee]

NANCY!

Suicide Bomber is Boon Bank role #2

[Weiss Schnee]

CONSEQUENCE
Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon Bank Role #1
Variant #2 is either a Renegade or a Split Renegade depending on whether RCE is lying or not

[Weiss Schnee]

Enchantress and Symbiote I don't think can be in this game, scum have to have a rolestopper or an alien

[Weiss Schnee]

Or Bambi is lying

[Weiss Schnee]

Now let us never use the word enchantress in this game again or ask A50 to figure out what a symbiote is because he doesn't need to lolol

[Titus]

RCE must be lying if scum have an enchantress.

[Titus]

CONSEQUENCE
Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon Bank Role #1
Variant #2 is either a Renegade or a Split Renegade depending on whether RCE is lying or not

Let's lynch RCE and find out. I kinda think the ascetic thing was to frame me.

[Titus]

We can't have a multi target giver. So unless renegade can act twice on it's own, RCE is lying.

[Weiss Schnee]

Spoiler:

DEAD SCUM
Aaron -- Traitor, Party Crasher, VARIANT #1

DEAD TOWN

Nancy -- Suicide Bomber, BOON BANK #1

CHK
CLAIM: rolestopper
N1: a50
N2: bambi

Fonz --
n2 - Chemist

LIVING PLAYERS

50 Judge Powers
CLAIM: 1-shot Recharged Desperate Weak Visitor
N1: targeted Nips. I obviously loved through it, but my 1-shot was used up. [CHK claims to have rolestopped 50 judge this night] --> 50 Judge survives,

Consequence: Nips is town

, 50 judge's shot is not recharged,

Consequence: nips is miller?

-- for more discussion on these conclusions, see 8037
N2: No action/nothing received
N3: No action/nothing received

CLAIM: Announcing Jack of all Trades (cop, PT cop, track) that resets after all of the abilities are used
N1: Copped A50 - no result -- A50 was rolestopped by CHK
D1: Lost both cop and PT cop due to juvenile deliquent and technically became a tracker
N2: Tracked BEF - visited Chara
N3: Tracked Titus - no result [Titus became ascetic?]

Haggle
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doctor Neighbor
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider --> Odd-night Weak Loyal Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry --> Action confirmed by Bambi, Consequence

Chemist claims same-alignment as Creature, and is always lynched before Creature if in doubt

BrightEyedFish
CLAIM: Dirty Laundry Vendor
N1: V&M
N2: Chara [

reminder, Chara was nk'd this night

]; received an "announcement" from Creature (

forgot to mention this on this card at first

)
N3: I would like to wait for all to post today before outing. [presumbly either chemist or creature?]

Amrun
CLAIM: dead fish vendor
N1: fish to Titus [confirmed by Titus]
N2: fish to Adorable/Weiss [confirmed by Weiss]
N3: fish to Fonz [

reminder, Fonz was nk'd this night

]

Bambi Jay
CLAIM: Odd-night Follower, Even-night Voyeur
N1: Follow Chara (result "Chara went nowhere")
N2: Voyeur Titus --> Action failed. [CHK claimed a rolestop on Bambi Jay n2, thus making action fail on Titus not due to roleblock shot]
N3: Followed Chemist because he claimed loyal hider and wanted to confirm if his action succeeded or failed. It succeeded. [perhaps cross-confirmed by BEF?]

RCEnigma
CLAIM: joat (1shot disloyal vig, 1 shot RB, 1 shot?) --> Ascetic JOAT
N1: disloyal vig: bef (Ascetic modifier received)

Permanent modifier #1 claimed

N2: no action
N3: no action

Emperor flippyNips
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

Weiss Schnee
CLAIM: Non-Consective rolecop
N1: copped bambi - Result: Follower/Voyeur
d1: cop enabler flipped d1
N2: received dead fish
N3: [nothing]

Claim: Neighborizer --> Desperate Neighborizer --> Ascetic Desperate Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish [A50 was rolestopped by chk]

Permanent modifiers #2 given N1

N2: Venus and Mars [action failed, V&M flipped town]
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

renegade action n3 #1

davesaz
CLAIM:
N1:
N2:
N3:

CONSEQUENCE
Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon #1
Renegade scum is variant #2 (maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

no renegade actions claimed for n2 huh?

any of the dead townies claim receiving any mods?

[Weiss Schnee]

RCE must be lying if scum have an enchantress.

scum can't have an enchantress; that would require you to be lying actually

[Titus]

Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon #1
Renegade scum is variant #2 (maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

no renegade actions claimed for n2 huh?

any of the dead townies claim receiving any mods?

No renegade for n2. I think Chemist is mistaken about mod timing.

No second modifier for n3 given out.

Only me RCE and chemist got them as far as I know.

[Weiss Schnee]

• You have the Split modifier. If you have the ability to do so, you MUST use at least 2 actions on at least 2 different players.

We've already had a Split scum flip though? Split is not restricted to variant; Aaron is only variant because Party Crasher is not a normal or boon role.

[Weiss Schnee]

Odd-night Split Renegade + 1 scum getting a mod N3 and not claiming it

vs.

Odd Night Renegade + RCE lying

[Weiss Schnee]

(something something "also explains targeting chemist n2" something something)

[Chemist1422]

Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon #1
Renegade scum is variant #2 (maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

no renegade actions claimed for n2 huh?

any of the dead townies claim receiving any mods?

No renegade for n2. I think Chemist is mistaken about mod timing.

No second modifier for n3 given out.

Only me RCE and chemist got them as far as I know.

It happened N1 but I wasn’t told about it until after EoD2

[Weiss Schnee]

``Desperate - Like Disloyal, but actions resolve against Millers.``
Disloyal -- Action only resolve on opposite-alignment players.

Desperate -- Actions only resolve on opposite-alignment players and millers.

RECHARGED
"Since you are Recharged, if you have an action that doesn't go through, you will be informed that your shot has been refunded."

RECHARGED DESPERATE
Actions only resolve on opposite-alignment players and millers. If you target same-aligned players, your shot will fail and your action refunded. If you target opposite-aligned players and millers, your shot will succeed and your action will not be refunded.

WEAK RECHARGED DESPERATE
Actions only resolve on opposite-alignment players and millers. If you target same-aligned players, your shot will fail and your action refunded. If you target opposite-aligned players, you will die. If you target a miller, your shot will succeed and your action will not be refunded.

Titus: y/n?

[RCEnigma]

I received a modifier. That means the renegade acted twice both nights, and it's definitely not a reflexive thing since I had my action stripped already.

[Weiss Schnee]

ADDENDUM

RECHARGED
"Since you are Recharged, if you have an action that doesn't go through, you will be informed that your shot has been refunded."

RECHARGED DESPERATE
Actions only resolve on opposite-alignment players and millers. If you target same-aligned players, your shot will fail and your action refunded. If you target opposite-aligned players and millers, your shot will succeed and your action will not be refunded. If you are roleblocked or your action fails for non-alignment reasons, your shot will be refunded.

WEAK RECHARGED DESPERATE
Actions only resolve on opposite-alignment players and millers. If you target same-aligned players, your shot will fail and your action refunded. If you target opposite-aligned players, you will die. If you target a miller, your shot will succeed and your action will not be refunded. If you are roleblocked or your action fails for non-alignment reasons, your shot will be refunded.