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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:07 pm

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In post 1549, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1548, PenguinPower wrote:god you're scummy
Reason number 4675 not to vote Ali.

PP's ISO has been vote parked hot garbage.

I'm ok with Auro's meta read.
I agree that PP's ISO is trash, even tho my own ISO is hot garbage

In post 1556, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1555, PenguinPower wrote:Although and were fairly scummy tbh
Highlighting that you've decided the conclusion before the posts happened isn't scummy.

It's the same thing you're bitching about from me but in different words.

Ali: No matter how my wagon moves, I am allegedly scummy.
PP: That's scummy. Also no matter what I do Titus says it's scummy.

Just figured the irony is good here.

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Ye, thats what I'm saying. No matter how my wagon moves, people frame it as me scummy.
Now people say that I'm a super mafia role and all my buddies are protecting me. Instead of me... being town and other people being intelligent.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 1837, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1834, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1825, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1773, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yup, Clover confirmed scum
TBH.
I’m just wondering why they are all open wolfing.
Can you elaborate on this?

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Thus I feel you all just open wolfed with those interactions.
Yeah, because I’m always suspicious of quick forming wagons without resistance. So that’s scummy how, exactly? I’ll wait.

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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:09 pm

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In post 1838, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1830, Past Present Future wrote:If you were actually using your brain, you’d have realized that I’d been crumbing my role all game
Damnit we didn't even discuss our fakeclaim yet Nancy, what have you been crumbing :o :o

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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:09 pm

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In post 1591, The Collectors wrote:I think alim is more likely town than scum because of him thinking I was scared of a 1v1 trade that was never gonna happen just seems like an odd angle for scum to take

No, I’m never gonna treat a neighbourhood like a masonry to begin with until I have vibes on whether my neighbour is town or not

And yes, I pushed you before reading what you’d posted in the neighbourhood. I know you posted in there but I’d honestly forgotten it existed and only after I’d started pushing you did I go back to it and find that you’d called me scum in there

Assume I’m town, alim: who is scum?

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When I talked about you pushing me before reading what I said, I was referring to you saying that 'the last time I had a neighbour who proposed that, they were scum.'
But you didn't see that before you pushed me. ??

I think based either PP or TSE could be scum, for people that were previously on my wagon.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:10 pm

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In post 1612, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1605, Dats Mist wrote:okay there's only 5 votes there
VOTE: Alch
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ALCHEMIST IS CONFIRMED TOWN!
I HARDCLAIM DAY COP WITH A GREEN CHECK ON ALCHEMIST!
NOW GET YOUR ASSES ON ALIM NOW!
If this is true, why didn't you investigate me first? Or FL since they were the first wagon
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:11 pm

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In post 1840, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1838, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1830, Past Present Future wrote:If you were actually using your brain, you’d have realized that I’d been crumbing my role all game
Damnit we didn't even discuss our fakeclaim yet Nancy, what have you been crumbing :o :o

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I have no clue what ANYONE’s role is other than ours and I won’t until anyone either gets mech confirmed or flipped.

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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:11 pm

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In post 1849, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1835, Flavor Leaf wrote:Crumbing is NAI.
Not for me, it isn’t.
Exactly. That makes it NAI.

Or else it’s a trust tell, and I don’t believe it’s a trust tell.
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:12 pm

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In post 1839, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@Fl
Vote Alim.
They are most likely to not only be mafia but a strong mafia role.

Slim being scum relies on Nancy being scum for me, I feel.

Else it’s looks like another mislynch.
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:12 pm

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In post 1842, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1837, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1834, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1825, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1773, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yup, Clover confirmed scum
TBH.
I’m just wondering why they are all open wolfing.
Can you elaborate on this?

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My thought is Alim is a super powerful mafia role that you all
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Thus I feel you all just open wolfed with those interactions.
I could see that, actually. I’d rather go the hydra than Alikidia, though.

That also makes sense as to why Nancy corrected me on my phone typing of misspelling the name.
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 1858, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1842, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1837, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1834, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1825, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1773, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yup, Clover confirmed scum
TBH.
I’m just wondering why they are all open wolfing.
Can you elaborate on this?

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You, Or, Eclipse, Alim and Clover were all together awkwardly defending Alim.
My thought is Alim is a super powerful mafia role that you all
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Thus I feel you all just open wolfed with those interactions.
I could see that, actually. I’d rather go the hydra than Alikidia, though.

That also makes sense as to why Nancy corrected me on my phone typing of misspelling the name.
Put the crack pipe down now FL! God.

Should I make some typos to seal the deal? :lol:
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:15 pm

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Now FL, if you’re actually done trolling/being a woat, explain your actual cases to me or stfu!. Seriously.

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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:15 pm

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In post 1857, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1839, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@Fl
Vote Alim.
They are most likely to not only be mafia but a strong mafia role.

Slim being scum relies on Nancy being scum for me, I feel.

Else it’s looks like another mislynch.
Are you just misspelling my name on purpose
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:15 pm

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PPF has successfully pocketed me
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:17 pm

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In post 1862, alimdia wrote:PPF has successfully pocketed me
I was only trying to pocket Penguin, well Titus was. Did it work? :P
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:19 pm

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In post 1860, Past Present Future wrote:Now FL, if you’re actually done trolling/being a woat, explain your actual cases to me or stfu!. Seriously.

~Fi

Nah, these reactions are good enough for me at the moment. I don’t think your being genuine at all, and I think your reads and pushes, like the ones on Clover/Pink Ball/Mastina/Me are extremely political.

I also didn’t like your insistence on the guilty from Vengeful Ghosts acting like it was a real thing.

And I think your Alchemist push is straight up terrible.

Also, you asked me to explain my case on you, so I did here, but I’ve already said all this, so that was a clever way of discrediting the push on you like I didn’t have reasons, which is untrue.

Sure, I could be wrong on you, but my cases are completely valid, and you are in no way doing anything to show that these reasons aren’t valid.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:20 pm

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I am 100% flipping town here and FL should have realized this, for reasons I can’t discuss if I want to avoid a temp ban.

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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:20 pm

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In post 1839, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@Fl
Vote Alim.
They are most likely to not only be mafia but a strong mafia role.
Declaring entire scumteams this way gives you an easy opportunity to shift progressions when you have to "re-evaluate" post town flip.

D1 reads should strongly rely on individual scum equity IMO, if you're town.

Can you list other scumreads excluding associatives?

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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:20 pm

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Even if I’m wrong, it doesn’t make my case bad or woat worthy, those are phrasing and words that are only effective at discrediting, which is a common thing scum do towards me.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:21 pm

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In post 1865, Past Present Future wrote:I am 100% flipping town here and FL should have realized this, for reasons I can’t discuss if I want to avoid a temp ban.

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I don’t think I should.

Also, I’ve temporarily hydra’d with you as scum, Restless Spirits, and you replaced out because someone was pushing you in an aggro way.

It was Ras, however, and he cheated, and somehow I still beat him in a 1v1 and made him replace out :lol:
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 1864, Flavor Leaf wrote:And I think your Alchemist push is straight up terrible
Why so?

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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 1864, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1860, Past Present Future wrote:Now FL, if you’re actually done trolling/being a woat, explain your actual cases to me or stfu!. Seriously.

~Fi

Nah, these reactions are good enough for me at the moment. I don’t think your being genuine at all, and I think your reads and pushes, like the ones on Clover/Pink Ball/Mastina/Me are extremely political.

I also didn’t like your insistence on the guilty from Vengeful Ghosts acting like it was a real thing.

And I think your Alchemist push is straight up terrible.

Also, you asked me to explain my case on you, so I did here, but I’ve already said all this, so that was a clever way of discrediting the push on you like I didn’t have reasons, which is untrue.

Sure, I could be wrong on you, but my cases are completely valid, and you are in no way doing anything to show that these reasons aren’t valid.
You’re not showing me anything other than that you disagree with me and when I practically beg and plead with you to explain them more clearly, you continue to insist WRONGLY that it’s scum indicative.

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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:23 pm

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So the fact that you say I should realize that when I have seen you do similar things and get pushy upset as scum, and you misrep happenings in past games all the time. Why would I have realized it?

Again, remember, just because I scum read someone doesn’t mean I think they’re scum.

I do think you have more than neutral scum equity right now, but I’m not dense enough to think I’m going to be 100% correct in a 19 player theme game Day 1. That happens occasionally, but when I’m at that point, you’ll know.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:23 pm

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In post 1867, Flavor Leaf wrote:Even if I’m wrong, it doesn’t make my case bad or woat worthy, those are phrasing and words that are only effective at discrediting, which is a common thing scum do towards me.
You've never heard town Nancy dish out words like "WOAT"?

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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:24 pm

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In post 1867, Flavor Leaf wrote:Even if I’m wrong, it doesn’t make my case bad or woat worthy, those are phrasing and words that are only effective at discrediting, which is a common thing scum do towards me.
It’s a common thing I do in every single game, anyone is reading me incorrectly. Prove me wrong.

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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:24 pm

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In post 1869, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1864, Flavor Leaf wrote:And I think your Alchemist push is straight up terrible
Why so?

-Present (Auro)
I don’t really feel like answering this right now, tbh. I’ve answered it in the past, and right now, that’s just noise and distraction. I’ll do it in a little bit.

This is a little scummy because it moves the conversation onto Alchemist instead of your slot, which makes me feel like you’re trying to help Nancy get out of this.

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