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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:55 pm

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VOTE: unvote gb
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:55 pm

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VOTE: tsel-1
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE
In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:20 pm

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No-one hammer yet, I still need more from Koba and Volxen.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:51 pm

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In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE
In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
Do I even try at this point?
Koba flipping mafia at least indicates that Me and Luca are Town.
My lynch doesn’t do shit but gets rid of someone who’s the top scum read.
It’s best to do confirmability via lynch rather then PLing.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:52 pm

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In post 503, Luca Blight wrote:No-one hammer yet, I still need more from Koba and Volxen.
No one hammer period.
I’m Town.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:07 pm

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I think there’s at least 1 scum within Volxen/Koba/GB and another within Bugs/Chaz/Luca

That’s what I think
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:08 pm

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Other then JV who’s town reading me?
They might actually be scum trying to distance.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:44 pm

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because the forum has bad unicode support
https://emojipedia.org/ghost/
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:48 pm

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In post 504, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE
In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
Do I even try at this point?
Koba flipping mafia at least indicates that Me and Luca are Town.
My lynch doesn’t do shit but gets rid of someone who’s the top scum read.
It’s best to do confirmability via lynch rather then PLing.
By the same token, you flipping scum would indicate me and Koba are Town.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 pm

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In post 484, DkKoba wrote:Lucas how about you stop attacking people and answer for yourself? Your own play seems to have been to only question others and the fact you are saying you have "multiple scumreads" is like you're setting up a lynch order.
You never gave me a solid answer on why you unvoted TSE nor answered why your read on them changed enough to go on me.
All that I've done so far is fish for reactions and tried to trick scum into participating more and help us gamesolve but instead you jump on a wagon?
I could just be lurky and not help town.
Why are you pushing the lynch off TSE Lucas?
I have multiple scumreads because there are multiple scummy slots. I am not setting up a lynch order - I am sorting as best I can today as I'm probably going to be dead Tomorrow.

I unvoted TSE because I wanted more time to think - I told you that already. I wasn't ready to end the day and still am not.

My read on TSE has nothing to do with my read on you.

I've explained why your change of stance on TSE seems calculated to me, and the fact you've avoided the vital question of '
why TSE's actions scream scum
' is a massive red flag against you. The answer to that question was essential to helping me understand if your reasons for switching were genuine or nor, but you a) Suddenly went offline when I asked the question and b) have continued to ignore it.

It reeks of delaying tactics.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 498, bugspray wrote:its possible he has been rehashing stuff you've said tbh
In post 499, bugspray wrote:i'll go back and look
In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
Why the rush to put TSE at L-1 when we were considering Volxen?

Did you even go back and check like you said you would?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:01 pm

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I can see why volxen's inactivity and ignorance of recent events seems scummy, but why would scum want to keep going back to questioning a similarly inactive player who now is kind of flying under the radar. Yes if the biggest scumread in the game is their partner but then why not jump on a preexisting counterwagon like DkKoba. I think they're just not caught up yet and George is simply their biggest read still.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:05 pm

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In post 512, chazary wrote:I can see why volxen's inactivity and ignorance of recent events seems scummy,
but why would scum want to keep going back to questioning a similarly inactive player who now is kind of flying under the radar.
Yes if the biggest scumread in the game is their partner but then why not jump on a preexisting counterwagon like DkKoba. I think they're just not caught up yet and George is simply their biggest read still.
Because it's easy and makes them look busy without having to take a hard stance on any current events.

Why commit to a stance on TSE/Koba when he can just rest easy on his vanity wagon?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:06 pm

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As far as being this close to hammer I would typically unvote to prevent such but TSE is giving us absolutely nothing when asked to explain themselves or their reads. They're still my biggest scumread and at this point I believe we're talking in circles whether they're scum or not and lynching them would at least move the game forward. I do want more from volxen and George and I feel bad about the players who just subbed in not being here for too long but where else can this conversation go without some kind of catalyst i.e. lynch and/or nk.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:08 pm

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Just unvote for the meantime, you can always re-vote later.

Kobe and Volxen really need assessing before this day is through.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:09 pm

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In post 513, Luca Blight wrote:
Because it's easy and makes them look busy without having to take a hard stance on any current events.

Why commit to a stance on TSE/Koba when he can just rest easy on his vanity wagon?
Hmm. I didn't think of the possibility that if TSE is town and volxen is scum, they don't need to worry about a counter wagon with TSE's lynch becoming more and more probable. Didn't really think that one through.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 502, Aloratom wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: TSE
In post 501, bugspray wrote:VOTE: tsel-1
You two want to talk about this?
I already had wanted to do this, I was hesitant due to not being sure how the votes worked
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:11 pm

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VOTE: unvote[/unvote] I'd prefer to keep tse at L-2 however
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:11 pm

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VOTE: unvote

adding a UNVOTE: so the automated voted counter will understand --P
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:12 pm

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I'm thinking Bugs/Volxen could be a thing after all - Bugs' reaction to the Volxen pressure is weird.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:15 pm

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In post 496, Luca Blight wrote:Koba has entirely dodged my question.

Why do TSE’s actions scream scum? Unless you can effectively answer this then my vote will remain.
I didn't feel like rehashing what has already been said, but seeing as you also ignored my question I'm going to not bother with yours either until you answer mine.
Next post includes my general reads and a short explanation on why they are so.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:17 pm

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Could you point me to the bugs volxen pressure, Luca?
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:17 pm

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I've answered your question?

I want to know why TSE's actions scream scum. If your reasons for SR'ing him were genuine then surely you'd just answer this point, thus helping me read you correctly? And yet you keep stalling, what am I meant to think?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:18 pm

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In post 522, Aloratom wrote:Could you point me to the bugs volxen pressure, Luca?
No, you misunderstand.

I pressured Volxen (in so far as you can pressure an inactive player), and Bugs' reaction to my pressure was weird.

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