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[Ankamius]

I feel like it was be even more obvious I'm town if I paraphrased everything from my team PT/discord about this game over the past week

and yet I strongly doubt it would get read

[Gammagooey]

hi

I've been keeping up for the most part (and also had a 4 paragraph phone post at lunch that got obliterated so I'm probably just going to recreate that for the most part)

I don't see pant as likely scum AT ALL

I don't really understand why most people are townreading nom - I will say that I think if you're town/scumreading ANYONE for something like 'the wagons have been weird' without having a particular scummy player in mind pushing for/against them I sincerely think that's a garbage way to try to read anyone - there's a fair chance that there's only 3 scum in the game, and even if it is 4 people tend to way overestimate the amount of actual pushing+pulling scum do compared to town just fucking around and shooting themselves in the foot

If someone wants to try to convince me that DEB is more likely scum than nom I'm willing to listen but I don't feel like that's the case, and if ya'll want DEB dead I feel like there's been enough people that have said they've wanted it for ya'll to make it happen without me if that's what you really want

I'm probably not going to be around much more, if at all tonight, but I was thinking of rereading EP and giving my thoughts on him since he was coming up as a scumread from someone earlier and I thought his late d3 posts were good but haven't really gone in depth into him recently so I might do that tomorrow.

[EspressoPatronum]

@nom @FB who did you commute last night?

@Gamma @DEB - Who have you made loved?

I can't remember if you've said already, but I think the knowledge would be useful.

[Gammagooey]

@EP - DEB already said we made Ank loved

Hey Ank, I’ve got a message from Math

Spoiler:

This is still possible, don’t give up. Don’t play into their hands, Scum WANTS you demoralized.
I agree full heartedly, you have been our leader, don’t leave us.

Btw, I wanna bring something iffy up that I’m thinking about.
So Chenn was the kill last night, and guess who wanted to use our power to make Chenn loved?
Gamma said they wanted to make Chenn loved, which, I wasn’t necessarily against. But I wanted to make Ank loved. Now, I made my small case and Gamma said they’d vote Ank along with me. Once I saw the kill flip I got to thinking. IF Gamma was scum, wouldn’t wanting Chenn loved right before he gets killed make sense? This would effectively render our group power useless for the night.
Also, if Chenn was so widely townread, what’s the point in wanting to use our group loved shot on him? He was not going to be wagoned/lynched.
I’m not outright calling gamma scum, but I feel very suspicious rn. What do y’all think?

[Ankamius]

I have a feeling making me loved is going to have that same effect you thought it would have on DV if you got it off on him lol

[EspressoPatronum]

@EP - DEB already said we made Ank loved

Hey Ank, I’ve got a message from Math

Spoiler:

This is still possible, don’t give up. Don’t play into their hands, Scum WANTS you demoralized.
I agree full heartedly, you have been our leader, don’t leave us.

Btw, I wanna bring something iffy up that I’m thinking about.
So Chenn was the kill last night, and guess who wanted to use our power to make Chenn loved?
Gamma said they wanted to make Chenn loved, which, I wasn’t necessarily against. But I wanted to make Ank loved. Now, I made my small case and Gamma said they’d vote Ank along with me. Once I saw the kill flip I got to thinking. IF Gamma was scum, wouldn’t wanting Chenn loved right before he gets killed make sense? This would effectively render our group power useless for the night.
Also, if Chenn was so widely townread, what’s the point in wanting to use our group loved shot on him? He was not going to be wagoned/lynched.
I’m not outright calling gamma scum, but I feel very suspicious rn. What do y’all think?

Ah right, thank you for the reminder.

Can you tell me who the third is/was + when you targeted them?

I have FL as a loved target, but I'm unclear if he was on N1 or N2.

[Flavor Leaf]

DEB snitching on Gamma all game, and Gamma being completely upset having to deal with DEB in general is the highlight of this game tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

I was loved...one of the days. I don’t remember when. Not the first time, so probably Night 2

[Flavor Leaf]

Ank’s loved this day phase and didn’t claim it?

Ugh...Ank

[Ankamius]

I wasn't ever told it afaik

[Ankamius]

I just checked

I haven't gotten a PM from the mod since the day 2 start, and it doesn't say I was loved

[Flavor Leaf]

I think I was told, but i don’t remember

[Gammagooey]

I have a feeling making me loved is going to have that same effect you thought it would have on DV if you got it off on him lol

I doubt that a lot tbh

stop overreacting to like 3 votes and turn the pessimism dial down

DEB snitching on Gamma all game, and Gamma being completely upset having to deal with DEB in general is the highlight of this game tbh

I mean it's maybe better than being in a hyper-poster neighborhood but yeah

I was pretty disappointed when I realized that everyone gets a neighborhood and the two people I get to talk to were volxen and DEB and neither of them seemed to want to play the game

I wasn't ever told it afaik

PM the mod
I very much doubt DEB changes his vote to make you loved regardless of his alignment and I'm 99% sure I sent mine in for you so odds are very high that they forgot to PM it to you

[Gammagooey]

yeah I changed it before night deadline and FL claimed it yesterday before either of me/DEB had claimed what our power was I'm pretty sure

[Dr Easy Bake]

@DEB - do you think Mena would be able to accurately read you this game? Why/why not?

Idfk what that eugenics lover can or can't do

[Ankamius]

I doubt that a lot tbh

stop overreacting to like 3 votes and turn the pessimism dial down

EP, Kuribo, MariaR, FL all have shown they are interested in lynching me
I expect A50 will jump on it eventually because of his general attitude this game
nomnomnom has expressed being willing to lynch me multiple times today

that's already 6, and I don't even know where davesaz/panth/FB stand on it necessarily, although I wouldn't be surprised if FB was willing to vote me just to be a troll or from RC

if I'm not loved, that's already a very likely lynch; if I am, I don't think it's likely the momentum will stop enough to dismantle the wagon if it gets going, so someone is inevitably going to hammer it

[Ankamius]

it's not pessimism, it's a very real risk that I'm taking into account

[Dr Easy Bake]

Titus very much wants to do some VCA but needs a scum lynch before they can do that.

[EspressoPatronum]

@DEB did you target Ank to be loved last night?

Also, who did you target N1?

[Firebringer]

@nom @FB who did you commute last night?

@Gamma @DEB - Who have you made loved?

I can't remember if you've said already, but I think the knowledge would be useful.

No one

Nom said in PT she would commute ank

[Firebringer]

that's already 6, and I don't even know where davesaz/panth/FB stand on it necessarily, although I wouldn't be surprised if FB was willing to vote me just to be a troll or from RC

Trolling u isn’t fun these days

[EspressoPatronum]

@nom @FB who did you commute last night?

@Gamma @DEB - Who have you made loved?

I can't remember if you've said already, but I think the knowledge would be useful.

No one

Nom said in PT she would commute ank

Weird. Why didn't you choose anyone?

@nom why did you commute Ank instead of one of the doctors?

[Ankamius]

A message from Eddie Cane!

I have a solve based on my reads as well as my read on the gamestate.

Town: Ankamius, Almost50, Panthaleon

I think Panth is just town due to Vex townspewing. I don't think I'll ever catch Almost50 if he's scum this game based on how many scummy slots are in this game, but he's very different than the one time I saw him as scum, which was Police Academy.

{MariaR/Kuribo} <-- 1 scum
{Flavor Leaf/EspressoPatronum} <-- 0-1 scum, more likely 1
{Dr Easy Bake/Gammagooey} <-- 0-1 scum
{Flavor Leaf/EspressoPatronum/Dr Easy Bake/Gammagooey} <-- 1-2 scum, more likely 1
{nomnomnom/firebringer/davesaz} <-- 1-2 scum

[Ankamius]

A message from Eddie Cane!

sorry, I think this game is just terrible, or at the very least is just really really boring. sorry I don't have more confident independent reads

(heavy paraphrase)

[Ankamius]

An addendum from Eddie Cane!

btw, I still think nom is the best lynch today with no competition, but ank is townreading her and my read on her isn't confident enough to want to override that

(semi-heavy paraphrase)