BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Weiss Schnee]

which is actually also impossible unless bambi is lying

so BEF mechanically cannot be the renegade if I understand things right

[Weiss Schnee]

Wait no, it's possible with BEF-Creature-Bambi scumteam

still I REALLY don't think Creature makes that play

[Weiss Schnee]

don't get me wrong, BEF can be scum. if he's scum he's not renegade though, pretty much ever I think

[50 Judge Powers]

Hell, I've just WIFOM'ed myself into wanting to vote BEF over chemist! That Disloyal Vendor is too convincing for me to go after the Hider today!!!

VOTE: BEF

P-edit: How about Disloyal Scum Vendor searching for his peers from the other PT?

[Weiss Schnee]

VOTE: BEF

don't think disloyal works though, if he's scum he's ~probably just a scum vendor?

[Weiss Schnee]

if he has a modifier it'd be like, BP or something

[Emperor flippyNips]

In fact, THAT is who I'm guessing is the Renegade, and he wanted to see if anyone had seen him do it.

BEF red flip as renegade confirms both Creature and Dave as scum though, so do you think it is a BEF-Creature-Dave scumteam?

how does that confirm them as scum?

[50 Judge Powers]

Why does Disloyal (or whatever the equivalent of it in the BoonBank is) not work? It's a PERFECT way to find the other Scum.

[Emperor flippyNips]

oh thats only if hes renegade

[Emperor flippyNips]

right?

[Weiss Schnee]

In fact, THAT is who I'm guessing is the Renegade, and he wanted to see if anyone had seen him do it.

BEF red flip as renegade confirms both Creature and Dave as scum though, so do you think it is a BEF-Creature-Dave scumteam?

how does that confirm them as scum?

Creature claims a track result on BEF that has him only going to Chara, so BEF Renegade flip would mean Dave lied about receiving modifier night 2 and also that Creature lied about track result

...which is why Creature probably didn't lie about his track result, one way or the other

[Weiss Schnee]

and also why, all things considered, BEF probably is not the renegade

[Bambi Jay]

why does scum BEF never attack?

Because I guess it's the same thing with Clem who said he'd always check me n1, plus since Creatue claimed Tracker, he would've had to worry about me or him tracking/following him.

He's a rather easy target to investigate. Actually I regret not telling Titus to check there instead.

[Emperor flippyNips]

i'll partake on a BEF lynch

[Bambi Jay]

I'd say that means something Flippy but since you've done Jack and Shit, you do you.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Spoiler:

[Emperor flippyNips]

VOTE: BEF

[Bambi Jay]

There's 11 of us RN so it takes 6 to lynch. Sigh.

VOTE: Fishie so he's at L-2 for now and so none of you can say "oh fuck Bambi can hammer!".

I could be wrong on my soulread but I still say Amrun has a better chance of flipping scum then Fishie IMO, but fishie flipping will help that point be made easier.

[Weiss Schnee]

No I mean, Nancy had BEF as town. My problem there is I feel like Nancy had BEF as scum in LNT so I don't know what her read-rate is since then

Amrun's early lists look pretty good but also almost too good?
BEF's tone at times seems pretty town but his progression on Joan looks pretty bad?

I'd really prefer not to make the wrong pick out of the two but there's arguments to be made either way

[BrightEyedFish]

wait it doesn't matter, BEF knew he was tracked because of announcing

Post 6178 is where I crumbed Chara as my target

and wrt to Creature's announce, I received the PM from mod well after Daystart

Read my post 6478.

[Weiss Schnee]

Gotcha, good to know

Town:
Chemist
Haggle
Amrun
Weiss
Dave

Probably Scum:
Bambi
RCE
Nips

Scum:
50JP
Creature

this still pretty much where you're at?

I guess you have Amrun above me, maybe sell me on 50J scum? I feel like I'm just really comfortable with my townread there and don't want too second-guess it but if there's something really significant there I've missed I'd like to hear it

otherwise I'd ask you to sell me on Amrun over you but it seems like that's not really what you want?

[davesaz]

You seem to be trying on every possible wagon, what's up with that?

[Weiss Schnee]

You seem to be trying on every possible wagon, what's up with that?

trying to give people motivation to present strong arguments about why any of the assumptions or arguments I'm making are wrong

effectively the game has transitioned into a quasi-mountainous at this point, but people aren't really being super forth-coming in reads so I'm trying to avoid letting the gamestate become too dull while hopefully not going into pure thought-spam

that and I was really hoping chemist would be cleared by Haggle so I thought this dayphase was gonna be waaaaaaaaay easier and I don't have a super strong preference among any of the other candidates

[Weiss Schnee]

Like in terms of just dayphase today
I smelled a whiff of town dave earlier
I thought RCE either did a good job selling a perspective town-slip or actually townslipped
Bambi still has a TON of stuff in his iso I hate but also has more things that seem like actual analysis than I'm used to him from either alignment so he just feels off meta and it's hard to settle on a read

there's an edgecase where I'm wrong on creature+chemist but I think there's a good chance creature dies tonight so I feel like the "chemist+creature" question is better asked tomorrow

I feel pretty comfortable with 50J town and if flippy is scum I just don't know how that occurred from a mechanical POV which makes me a touch nervous to go there

but that means I really just don't have enough scum, I'm finding too much town and I'm wrong somewhere on a townie which is likely causing me to be wrong on two townies

Amrun and BEF are both complicated slots that each has a lot going for it and each has a few distinct problems which makes this not a very intuitive gamestate to play through but I also don't want to throw up my hands and say "well guess we do nothing then", like we have to push the game in a direction even if we're not sure it's the right one imo

if I'm wrong on BEF and he's town, Nancy will say I told you so. If I'm wrong on Amrun and she's town, Titus will say I told you so

It seems very likely some dead townies were wrong somewhere on one of those two slots given the rest of my townreads and the facts of the gamestate

doesn't make this current decision any more obvious or easier tho lol

[BrightEyedFish]

Gotcha, good to know

Town:
Chemist
Haggle
Amrun
Weiss
Dave

Probably Scum:
Bambi
RCE
Nips

Scum:
50JP
Creature

this still pretty much where you're at?

I guess you have Amrun above me, maybe sell me on 50J scum? I feel like I'm just really comfortable with my townread there and don't want too second-guess it but if there's something really significant there I've missed I'd like to hear it

otherwise I'd ask you to sell me on Amrun over you but it seems like that's not really what you want?

That's my general foundation atm. The groups aren't ordered in most/less town or scum. So you aren't above or under Amrun, I have you both as a TR. The Probably scum group are people I'm trusting atm.