Open 771: Pollock's Flag [endgame!]

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VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

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By the way, I am using Windows XP and Discord lags on it so I don't use it.
I will soon upgrade on Windows 7, though.

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R.I.P. Pink Ball's tonal reading.

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Yes. I am.
I didn't kill a single Temm during my genocide run.

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Wait, is Nancy in the game or was I disappointed?

Yep. Nancy and T-bone are my mafia teammates.

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Welcome, Blatant Scum, to Pollock's Flag!

You are Mafia White Flag. You are aligned with the mafia, and know that your partners are Nancy Drew 39 and T-Bone.

If you are the first member of the mafia lynched, the town will immediately win the game.

You win when you reach parity with the town (equal number of town & mafia), or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is *link*.

Scum chat is *link*.

Please confirm by summarising your role via pm.

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Wait, is Nancy in the game or was I disappointed?

Yep. Nancy and T-bone are my mafia teammates.

We already discussed this, you promised not to bus me.

T-Bone otoh is of course fine.

I don't read scum PT.
Hectic can confirm that.

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VOTE: Hectic

Dude’s obsessed with flags. So sus.

I am the only person who started thinking about flagella when reading that comment?

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Oh, man, now I am thinking about the undulating membrane. Please, stop mentioning flags. It brings traumata from my school years back.

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I don't know. Last time I suggested a policy lynch, RC left the game.

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I am not.
I wanted to treestump RC so town would follow his reads.

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looker and mm are the same person?

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I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

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VOTE: Creature because he has the most votes.

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Act casual? Elaborate, please.

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I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
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wolfy
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null
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Why is 16 a townie post?

genuineness
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I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

You thino that joking, then voting is scummy?

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think

Stupid autocorrect.

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I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
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I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

The joke is, that I bogusly reproduced a behaviour which was townreaded. But it was TRed because of genuineness!

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quack, but the quack sounds like Nancy Drew 39, not a duck.

Note to self: don't remember where you stopped your catch up based on Nancy's posts. She edits them.

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I rolled scum (CL) against Hectic.

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I am a mathematician, so my favorute flag is the Nepali one.
It is because of Nepal having in their constitution the method of drawing it:

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Constitution of the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
8. National flag
(1) The national flag of Nepal, consists of two juxtaposed triangular figures with a crimson colored base and deep blue borders, there being a white emblem of the crescent moon with eight rays visible out of sixteen in the upper part and a white emblem of a twelve rayed sun in the lower part.
(2) The method of drawing the flag and other particulars relating thereto shall be as set out in Schedule 1.

Schedule 1 (Related with clause (2) of Article 8)
Method of Making the National Flag of Nepal
(A) Method of Making the shape inside the Border
(1) On the lower portion of a crimson cloth draw a line AB of the required length from left to right.
(2) From A draw a line AC perpendicular to AB making AC equal to AB plus one third AB. From AC mark off D making the line AD equal to line AB. Join BD.
(3) From BD mark off E making BE equal to AB.
(4) Touching E draw a line FG, starting from the point F on line AC, parallel to AB to the right hand-side. Mark off FG equal to AB.
(5) Join CG.

(B) Method of making the Moon
(6) From AB mark off AH making AH equal to one-fourth of line AB and starting from H draw a line HI parallel to line AC touching line CG at point I.
(7) Bisect CF at J and draw a line JK parallel to AB touching CG at point K.
(8) Let L be the point where lines JK and HI cut one another.
(9) Join JG.
(10) Let M be the point where line JG and HI cut one another.
(11) With center M and with a distance shortest from M to BD mark off N on the lower portion of line HI.
(12) Touching M and starting from O, a point on AC, draw a line from left to right parallel to AB.
(13) With center L and radius LN draw a semi-circle on the lower portion and let P and Q be the points where it touches the line OM respectively.
(14) With the center M and radius MQ draw a semi-circle on the lower portion touching P and Q.
(15) With center N and radius NM draw an arc touching PNQ at R and S. Join RS. Let T be the point where RS and HI cut one another.
(16) With center T and radius TS draw a semi-circle on the upper portion of PNQ touching at two points.
(17) With center T and radius TM draw an arc on the upper portion of PNQ touching at two points.
(18) Eight equal and similar triangles of the moon are to be made in the space lying inside the semi-circle of No (16) and outside the arc of No (17) of his Schedule.

(C) Method of Making the Sun
(19) Bisect line AF at U, and draw a line UV parallel to AB line touching line BE at V.
(20) With center W, the point where HI and UN cut one another and radius MN draw a circle.
(21) With center W and radius LN draw a circle.
(22) Twelve equal and similar triangles of the sun are to be made in the space enclosed by the circle of No (20) and No (21) with the two apexes of two triangles touching line HI.

(D) Method of Making the Border
(23) The width of the border will be equal to the width of TN. This will be of deep blue color and will be provided on all the sides of the flag. However, on the given angles of the flag the external angles will be equal to the internal angles.
(24) The above mentioned border will be provided if the flag is to be used with a rope. On the other hand, if it is to be hoisted on a pole, the hole on the border on the side AC can be extended according to requirements.
Explanation:- The lines HI, RS, FE, ED, JG, OQ, JK and UV are imaginary. Similarly, the external and internal circles of the sun and the other arcs except the crescent moon are imaginary. These are not shown on the flag.

Source:

Constitution of Nepal, Preliminary Draft. Kathmandu: 2015

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Here is a guy making it:

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Go on Hectic.

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When constructed according to the stated geometric construction law, the ratio of the height of the flag to the longest width is an irrational number:

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This ratio is the least root of the quartic polynomial

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According to wiki.

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you guys know that you can replace, right?

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By the way, nice signature, Creature.

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By the way, nice signature, Creature.

it's a pretty negative one tbh, i like yours better

Because you are in it.

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oh no, anything but that. fine, here's a captcha for you. name one thing in this picture:

air

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Ladys and gentleman, tem hard claim backup tEMMIE. Ma tem-talking skills r still imperfect, nonetheless, tem found an online generator which can mak meh talk liek a real tEMMIE! isn't it amazing? tem surely think dat it iz!

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¿Va tem generator hacer algo con un texto en Español? Tongo que probarlo.

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Quizá no nececitamos el PT. Podemos hablar en Español y otros no van a entendernos, clidd.

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I will stop.

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Don't ban me

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Someone is going to have a lifetime ban from playing mafiascum.

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I could have proved it in three other ways too, without making references to other games. In any case, I accept the modkill, if applicable.

R.I.P.
Were you scum at least?

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Also... I'd appreciate if we could please keep the game in English. Games have been held in other languages in the past, but this is a predominantly English-speaking forum.

Vaše přání je mi rozkazem.

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I'm going to treat this as a sign of good faith rather than cheekiness.
Further posts which aren't in English may require a more severe reaction.

- the worst

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What happened to this?
Why is there so much content?

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What happened to this?
Why is there so much content?

Do you have any reads?

I don't think that sharing my reads in front of Hectic is a good idea.

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Is here anyone in particular you would love seeing me to have a read on?

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And in my own volition, I asked you if there is someone you would prefer to be read by me earlier.

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Nothing of note to me, really.

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TSH asks me if I normally vote for someone during my first post of the game. Not a terrible question, but feels kinda… meaningless.

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I like Cat picking up on TSH saying Looker’s Post 16 is a townie post. I didn’t really get that vibe from it. In fact, looking back at it, it seems kind of like filler. I didn’t see anyone really rushing anything? Lol. Aaron then points out Blatant saying he doesn’t want to rush in, and then voting immediately, but now that I’ve seen the context of it? Eh, it does look like a joke. For me, that interaction is NAI for Blatant, and slight town points for Aaron for being proactive.

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Cat pointing out Aaron not voting for Blatant after making a weird post is good. RB brings up that Pink Ball is the only player really memeing but not also “playing the game” which I somewhat agree with. She thinks CSF + Hectic are town early on. I’m a bit more hesitant on Hectic, but I can kinda see where she’s coming from.

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Kinda zoned out on this one, not gonna lie. Guess I liked Aaron’s posts the most on it, though? Everyone else was sorta meh.

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Rooroo and co. joking around, it seems. The only real thing of note here to me is Hectic’s vote on Aaron, accompanied by a question. I think that’s a solid move, considering Aaron hadn’t voted elsewhere yet at this point, I believe. Man, why do I even do this analysis stuff I can’t even remember what happened a few pages ago. -.-

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Mmm. Looker voting Amrun and saying they’re ready to start reading? That’s interesting, considering Looker hasn’t seemed willing to drop too many reads throughout the rest of the day. That’s only by memory though, I’ll have to see if they actually do start to read as I go through these pages. Amrun says that RB is an early townread for her, which is exactly my thoughts after rereading. Pink Ball says Clidd’s entry is newbscum like, which I also agree with now that he brings it up. Clidd then pops in to dismiss this claim, and then asks other people for reads? Huh. I don’t know about that. RB dismisses the timing of Clidd’s return, so yeah, fair. But Clidd asking for reads still threw me off a bit. Pink Ball seems to want a genuine interaction here with RB towards the end of this page.

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I like Hectic’s Post 203, even though I don’t agree with some of the stuff (Blatant as a townlean and Amrun as a nullscum, I think they’re both closer to null at this point) but there’s logic there and some stuff I do see. Feels like a townie post. Some Clidd stuff I find interesting, but more tonally wise than anything. Seems cool, calm, collected. No real urgency to defend themself.

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Cat votes on TSH, this has trajectory after she’d interacted with the slot. Makes sense. Follows up by saying he doesn’t follow TSH’s reads, which I also agree with. Think this might be where the PB/RB conflict kicks off, also?

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TSH seems to be waffling here, if you ask me. The explanations aren’t all that great and it comes off as someone trying to come up with reasons for why they said something they didn’t really believe in. RB explains why Clidd’s timing of activity and his alignment should have no correlation. I like the defense, plus I don’t see a reason for RB to go out of their way to do this. However, I do agree with the general sentiment of PB that Clidd’s first post was off, although the others have been okay up until this point.

So far out of these 3, I’m getting +town from Pink Ball and RB, and still null on Clidd.

Looker jumps in, says he’s narrowing his votes to Amrun, Aaron and Rooroo… but doesn’t explain why at all. Not even something small. Not sure what to make of that. It seems low effort, but low effort reading early D1 is something I’ve mislynched someone over before. I’ll reserve judgement for now.

So RB/PB conflict is getting started here. I agree with Pink’s sentiment that RB is sort of singling him out about content, considering at this point… yeah, there wasn’t a whole heap of being content being thrown out from other slots outside of maybe CSF and TSH for the most part. Maybe something to keep in mind considering that RB is ignoring Rooroo and Clidd’s lack of content? I feel like Pink’s response to RB here is the exact type of response I’d make to being called out in that manner.

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I remember this being the original Amrun pushed that made me like her slot. In hindsight, it’s not that huge of a move from her and shouldn’t carry so much weight with me, but I still generally like the concept behind it. TSH votes her back almost immediately, which I don’t really like. I don’t see TSH’s belief that Amrun was being opportunistic there, the vote made sense to me.

Looker jumps in again and has ruled out Aaron, leaving it between Amrun and Rooroo. Again, no real explanation. Why does he vote Rooroo for not voting, while there are two other slots who haven’t done so? The other two slots who hadn’t voted at this point where Pink Ball and Clidd, but they had put in more game related content. So, this sort of looks like the “path of least resistance” vote. Hectic with some decent posts here too regarding TSH and his defensiveness + reads.

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I generally disagree with RB and Aaron’s reasoning for thinking PB is scummy here. I don’t think they’re *bad* reads or anything, perse. I could see a world where I think PB is acting a bit off, but I don’t know, I’m not really feeling it here. Might be a tonal thing. Howeeevveeerr, PB now revoting Clidd after being called out for the unvote? That was a bit jarring. CSF calls me out here, I don’t mind it. My only post outside of my original vote was pretty blunt.

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Interesting page. CSF disagrees with Amrun about TSH being defensive, but I actually do think TSH was being defensive. Here, we have to consider that Amrun was the latest vote on the wagon, so that’s the one that’s going to apply the most pressure. Amrun’s vote here is the one that matters most, not anyone else's, so to me, that’s the one TSH would naturally be the most defensive towards. I hope I’m making sense here.

RB does bring up a point that makes me hesitate about TSH in general, though. I have come across a few players who have that sort of posting style and tone that can easily make them LHF. If I take a step back and decide to see TSH as being the kind of player who just goes off what they’re thinking without much review or analysis, I can see them not being scum and Scum!Amrun pushing the LHF here. The thing is, I’m not sure which one is more plausible here.

At this point of my reading, I’m leaning towards a TSH flip just since I’m thinking Amrun/TSH is likely to be a TvS situation in my eyes, one way or the other. I’m just more confident in Amrun at this point in time.

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CSF +town here just for being concerned about the gamestate and how we don’t seem to be progressing quickly enough. There’s a good sense of urgency there. Scum doesn’t bring that up imo.

Pink Ball aggressive with post 363 here, and honestly? I kinda like it. Given everything else I’ve taken note of, I don’t really think it’s accurate, but to me? It appears to be a townie thought process. After all, I did agree with PB’s initial reaction to Clidd’s opener.

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Clidd giving me some major anime villain vibes here lmao. I love it. CSF brings up my posting, which I can see from a town POV. I like the interaction between CSF/RB, seems like two townies discussing reads naturally, imo.

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Roo votes TSH here. Huh? I thought she liked TSH? Maybe I’m misremembering. These rereads are grueling. I’ll have to ISO here sometime after this.

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This is the majority of RB vs. PB, and I can see both sides of this argument, tbh. PB’s points on Hectic are there, and I don’t think they’re too far stretched. Plus, the general thought of a slot replacing out in this manner just screams town to me anyway. The last time I saw a blow up and replace out like that, it turned out to be a town slot. So yeah, a little biased, but I’ve generally liked RB’s posting anywhere.

As for PB, I kind of see myself reacting in the same manner to RB here, honestly. Do I think he comes out here slightly worse than RB? Yeah, a little. To RB’s point, his only real interactions up until now have been with herself and Clidd, but I think RB wasn’t being fair in pointing out that a big reason for this was her being the one to push on PB in the first place, and for dismissing his Clidd argument.

I think the most likely scenario here is TvT.

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Okay, Clidd’s post 548. I gave him town points for this upon first reading a few days ago, since it was a high effort post. Is it just me, or does he sort of prove PB’s point about his opening post being scummy with the two town games he linked about himself? If anything, that’s extremely different from the ways Clidd has entered during his town games.

Also, if we really get down to it here, Clidd is pretty much fence-sitting.. I came to a similar conclusion as he did about the whole conflict, sure. But the difference is… he hasn’t got any other scum reads, or has shown any real form of scum hunting up until this point. This is subject to change as I keep reading, but something to keep note of.

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Clidd makes it seem like a vote on TSH isn’t valuable… and then does it anyway? This kind of makes me paranoid about what I just brought up. Seems really low effort.

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I don’t agree with TSH calling Amrun’s vote on the top wagon opportunistic. The idea that voting on the top wagon prevents you from being scum-read is mindboggling to me. If anything, wagon analysis and vote analysis is something I see quite a few players use, so voting on the top wagon, especially early game, can be bad for scum if they don’t do it smartly.

Ooft, Hectic noticing what I just saw about Looker removing Aaron from his vote pool without explanation. I like it.

Looker pops in and explains. It’s sort of low effort, but fits with his whole thing of not liking D1s. Idk. I just don’t really like it. There were other people who weren’t voting at the time that didn’t get Looker’s attention, but Rooroo did. Why? Why did Looker put his vote there? That’s what I want to know. Especially since, as I’ve said, he didn’t bring up those other two people not voting (Pink Ball and Clidd).

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Sort of feel like this is all stuff I’ve touched on before.

Same goes for the following pages, really. This is all more recent stuff that’s more fresh in my mind.

I will be posting a reads list shortly.

Oh, god.

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I don't know.
Uncrowned seems like a prototype of obvtown player.
Why is he being scumreaded?

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It's me or mafiascum is broken?

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It's me or mafiascum is broken?

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there is, as a rule, at least 1 scum in the TSH wagon.

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