Titus v. Alisae (endgame)


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Post Post #3050 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:53 am

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Post Post #3051 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:56 am

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Ank needs to be heavily reevaluated
i still don't understand the logic behind posting a completely RNGed reads list because she "doesn't want to give real reads and hoped that would satisfy people" (paraphrasing) but then doesn't expect people to question and ask specifics about her completely RNGed list, which would mean she would have to BS explanations.
think it's more likely it's a dumb gambit and scum!her expected to reveal it was a RNG list soon after posting it
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Post Post #3052 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:57 am

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Gobble ... I tried to send you a message last night. Did you get it?


Only not voting Oka in order to make sure day doesn’t end too fast. I thought he was scum regardless after the flip.



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Spiffeh is a weird kill. I expected S+W to eat it overnight but maybe it was because the commuter claim.
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Post Post #3053 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:57 am

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Post Post #3054 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 am

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In post 3051, Hectic wrote:Ank needs to be heavily reevaluated
i still don't understand the logic behind posting a completely RNGed reads list because she "doesn't want to give real reads and hoped that would satisfy people" (paraphrasing) but then doesn't expect people to question and ask specifics about her completely RNGed list, which would mean she would have to BS explanations.
think it's more likely it's a dumb gambit and scum!her expected to reveal it was a RNG list soon after posting it
At the same time, I don’t see the scum motivation for doing this.
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Post Post #3055 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 am

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I am eager to hear from Oka.
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Post Post #3056 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:59 am

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Is doing RNG reads actually AI?
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Post Post #3057 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:59 am

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explains why scum!her doesn't get nightkilled
the gambit looks towny because it doesn't make any sense for scum to do it
but it's not towny because logically it doesn't achieve what she aims she was trying to do with it
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Post Post #3058 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:00 am

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I think RR / Oka / Aaron / Chemist / Pine

Were scum off my read through.

Oka was scummiest.

Aaron and Chemist standing out, followed by RR.

Pine I just didn’t like his wall about Alisae’s personality, there were some stuff that I think were stretched in order to justify why he wouldn’t be picked by em, as opposed to him just solving. If he would’ve died early as a town role that fucks with scum, why does he even need to address that instead of going “I am just gonna die so leave me alone” like espe?
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Post Post #3059 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:00 am

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I know a town player who’s famous for lying just to survive as town. He’s a seal.
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Post Post #3060 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:00 am

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In post 3057, Hectic wrote:explains why scum!her doesn't get nightkilled
the gambit looks towny because it doesn't make any sense for scum to do it
but it's not towny because logically it doesn't achieve what she aims she was trying to do with it

Hmm. Still not sure I buy it, but I like the thought process. Hectic gets a TR from me.
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Post Post #3061 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:02 am

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Point is, if he felt like he was going to die regardless, why do you still feel the need to talk about Alisae’s personality and why ey wouldn’t pick you as a scum member instead of you being “Meh fuck this my role is so town that I can clear myself off just literally claiming”

That’s where it doesn’t make sense why town!Pine would do it
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Post Post #3062 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:03 am

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Insomnia what is your opinion on my slot?
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Post Post #3063 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:04 am

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I thought it was obvtown if you ask me
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Post Post #3064 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:05 am

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In post 3061, insomnia wrote:Point is, if he felt like he was going to die regardless, why do you still feel the need to talk about Alisae’s personality and why ey wouldn’t pick you as a scum member instead of you being “Meh fuck this my role is so town that I can clear myself off just literally claiming”

That’s where it doesn’t make sense why town!Pine would do it

Not sure how his role makes him scum, though. It’s self resolving.


Also scum doesn’t come into today claiming a soft guilty on a town player because they misunderstood something, which is what Pine did.

If he hadn’t corrected himself, I may have been lynched, which would have meant he was speedlynched next day for guilty on town.
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Post Post #3065 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 am

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People better not have fucked with my ability btw, I am counting on this shit.
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Post Post #3066 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 am

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Scum!Pine can definitely fake that confusion though
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Post Post #3067 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:07 am

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In post 3066, Hectic wrote:Scum!Pine can definitely fake that confusion though
CAN. Did he? I don’t think so.


Also I don’t think he’d fake a SOFT guilty.
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Post Post #3068 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:08 am

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Post Post #3069 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:08 am

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why does the SOFT part matter?
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Post Post #3070 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:12 am

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Depends on what his role is but if he had a role that allows him to choose the people and it gives him some form of result, the fact he picked you over say Espe or Sherlock is mind boggling

It can totally be faked but unless we have a full claim and explanation, I believe this debate is useless.
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Post Post #3071 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:14 am

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That’s my point amrun, if it’s self-resolving, why go out of your way to defend yourself against an accusation that has its roots in wifom when you can just hardclaim if you get ran up.
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Post Post #3072 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:22 am

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In post 3070, insomnia wrote:It can totally be faked but unless we have a full claim and explanation, I believe this debate is useless.
+1

Probably best to move on right now.

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Post Post #3073 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:23 am

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Post Post #3074 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:26 am

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I need to talk with RR today at a minimum. The gunsmith positive also goes against my theory.
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