Secret Hitler (Liberal victory!)

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NEIN

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thank you RC very cool

:C

/In

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hi i'm so lib that i'm like basically lib

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omg

what if i get fasc in the reroll

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ok fine ircher

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thank annie i'm a liberal again

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"boring"

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"boring"

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yay i was nominated

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i got 1l1f

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najon did you get 2l1f or 2f1l

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are there term limits?

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ok i understand the mechanic

so we're basically looking for a set of 2 of pine/korina/ausuka/ircher

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sure

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ok i understand the mechanic

so we're basically looking for a set of 2 of pine/korina/ausuka/ircher

Uhhh I don't buy that for a hot second.

FOS RC

pretty terrible fos

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ok

what cards do you both claim you received

also we should skip from here to me/NAJON

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why don't we play NAJON as my chanc given that he was involved in the passage of a lib policy already

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i'm going to yea even though i believe it's strictly optimal to skip ahead to rc/najon

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i honestly lean town on korina.

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feels legitimately self righteous

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We know at least RRRL has gone through
For there to be two more Ls already gone through requires both Ircher and Najon to be scum

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i think ausuka is pretty

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oof

was that 3l or 2l1f

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saying oof because that does mean it's more likely to wind up with 3fs in the future

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why not 2f1l

because i got 2 l policies

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i see literally no reason to test pine right now when 3 players have been involved in the passage of lib policies

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so we have confirmed

FFFLLL

if we nein this i get pres

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there's no reason not to nein you here, sorry pine

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there's actually very little evidence that you're town mechanically as opposed to based on play because if you know i'm town anyway and we know you had 2ls what you chose to pass doesn't mean a whole lot

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it's strategy pine

"Strategy" smells like "I'm RC and only my opinion matters, so I'll bully others into doing what I want in the most self-aggrandizing way possible"

???

this is literally not even close to what's happening and you're already horribly scummy based on play so i'll just assume you're scum.

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that is really simplistic reasoning @korina

same question to NAJON

ok here's the thing guys

EVEN IF no one lied about anything thus far there is still a very high probability that the next flip comes up 3f just based on the amount of libs that have already flipped

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forgive my not understanding the game for a second: when does the deck get shuffled again? after 2 more policies?

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i think i'm going to

give najon another shot

since 1) involved in the passage of a lib policy 2) can't pass the other person who is 3) if they're town that means there's a reasonably high chance of getting another lib card and if not it would be useful to know

Nominate: NAJON

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there is a fairly good odds

that exactly 1/3 of them buried a lib secretly

so we're actually looking at 2/7

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like

i'm assuming any of them who is fasc buried a lib

so unless literally pine/ausuka scumteam there is a buried lib card

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like i'm not trying to preemptively make an excuse for my failed policy because i'm town but i want to be realistic because my last game of SH was nearly lost off of me rolling 3F when i was a universal TR

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i'm fine being in a 1v1 with najon.

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i'm fine being in a 1v1 with najon.

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got 2f1l passed 1f1l obviously

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so

najon/someone

i don't see a reason right now for it not to be korina

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i'm very happy with najon/korina

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i also don't really object to najon/ausuka but i think that korina is a slot worth testing atm

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can't nom me bc term limits

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we can say with 100% certainty that normal scum is not in NAJON/RC

I can only be hitty or lib on this, not normal fasc.

Not that the argument is a big deal but this isn't true, we really didn't get a lot of mechanical information from your presidential run

this also doesn't mean i'm rejecting you for the nomination because it's more evidence than we have for other slots

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Why are you ok with Najon so much Ircher? What have they done that's making you TR them?

they have been involved in the passage of 2 liberal policies?

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like you didn't actually do much that spews you town korina

at least once NAJON got 1f1l and passed the liberal policy and I'm inclined to believe that he got 1L2F the first time

i'm not saying that you're scum but NAJON is hitler if he's scum

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notably

it's actually very, very possible that there is simply no liberal policies in the deck atp

at most there's 1

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It's a weak argument but I don't think it's weakness takes away from korina being probtown rn ?

i think purely mechanically the slot tier list goes

rc
>
>
najon
>
>
Korina

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then ircher and pine both imo are more likely scum than rand and ausuka is like slightly above rand town

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why are you disregarding the possibility of Hitler being in the townpool pine

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korina why are you so anti-najon even though they've passed two L policies when they had the choice

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it wasn't forced at all

he had 1f1l

he could have easily passed the F policy and played the 1v1 with me

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term limits disallow

take your pick of korina/ausuka ig preferably korina for the 1v1

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ok

first off we're neining this to korina

second off what do you claim to have gotten

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Nom RC

so Aus is probably fascist??

how is this your takeaway from this situation

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how is ausuka scum your takeaway from this situation when in both circumstances it was agreed she received only F cards

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how did ircher and pine both come in saying yeah this makes ausuka scum idgi

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when you say

that i want it that wayyyyy

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I NEVER WANNA HEAR YOU SAY

THAT I WANT IT THAT WAY

NOW I CAN SEE THAT WE'RE FALLING APART

FROM THE WAY THAT YOU USED TO BE

NO MATTER THE DISTANCE I WANT YOU TO KNOW

THAT DEEP DOWN INSIDE OF ME

you are

my fire

the one

desire

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how is the pinecone

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3f is 24% it seems

based on what assumptions

i think that there is probaby 4f 1l in the deck

that gives 40% of 3f

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hell if najon is in fact scum

it's quite possible that there's 0 l in the deck

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oh

this is a new deck

what are we looking at? 3L10F?

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i can only confirm 2r

so nein to me i guess

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if we td

we don't get to get rid of the 2 fascist cards.

this is optimal

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pine set something so we can nein it

sorry if you're lib, etc.

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that guarantee is less valuable than throwing out the two consecutive fascist cards and at worst still ending up with confscum

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So maybe we do rc / najom again? We might lose with that but I don't see any better options.

not true

we're still not in hitler range

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WE are RC on this blessed day

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wtf

when was the third fasciast passed

meh

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so i gotta choose in ausuka/najon

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ok

Nominate: Ausuka

i'll take a chance on this, if we don't lose this round we don't lose the game

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aaaa

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so

if we force a flip

do term limits expire

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if we nein nein nein

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is there any reaqson not to

nein back to me and run the same pairing

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like i really don't see a reason not to just

do that

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like

i'm more concerned that

i don't want to risk a hitler in najon/korina

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To play a fascist card? Because Ausuka shoots me. Assuming Pine is hitty, I lose my chance to win.

i'm worried about you being hitler basically

i see no reason from my point of view not to skip all the way, have a policy flip, and then come back to me and nom ausuka again

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i mean

from all your points of view i'm literally involved in every liberal policy passing and was not responsible for the one F policy that passed on my watch so

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also

if i'm scum i'm hitler

and if i'm hitler it would be really easy for me to set this up at this point so that I'd end up being chancellor

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ja

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NOminate: Ausuka

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gg!

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oh pine was hitler huh

unfortunate that he just was obvscum by play without any policies passing

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this was a really weird reversal of typical towngames for me

where i was in the position of the undisputed townread who wasn't really efforting that hard to push what i wanted done
and korina was in the position of doing what I usually do as the disputed townread who was aggressively pushing things

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pine i don't think caught for the wrong reason-ing this game is the right approach. if you're interested in a more in depth explanation from me i can do that but i think you were transparently scum in your approach to the game pretty consistently throughout

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i'm glad that when i was really unsure on whether NAJON or Ausuka was the town that I wanted to pass to both were town

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I would play SS's modified 3p version

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or venge

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or venge

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My votes were fine - I had stated reads and I voted accordingly. Ircher following my lead was not my fault.

Your reads sucked though and you never really explained them

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i mean

i was town

i also thought najon's nom on me was just disproportionately towny

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korina townspewed early

you did nothing early but you townspewed heavily in the midgame

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ircher to me was only scummy because of his 3F pass but wasn't towny either

you were very towny by play
korina was very towny by play

i leaned najon towny by play but i guess i just was worried that i didn't see an obvious hitler in korina/najon when last time i caught the hitler pretty much instantly