Krazy's Post-Apocalypse uPick (Game Over)

[Dats Mist]

Yo

We’re a vig, shot Alch last night

We spent N1 getting a bullet and couldn’t shoot

VOTE: Alch

-Mist

[Past Present Future]

Why would Alch claim vig then, if he could expect a counter-claim?

-Present (Auro)

[Dats Mist]

Why would Alch claim vig then, if he could expect a counter-claim?

-Present (Auro)

I don’t think he could have actually

-Mist

[Past Present Future]

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(Woats are the bane of my mafia existence.) :/

~Fu

Nancy, you're being rude, and if someone talked about you the way you're talking about Alchemist you'd be very upset. You can't complain about players mistreating you and turn around and mistreat other players.
Nothing about the way you're trashing Alchemist here is playing to wincon, it's primarily about a player who is already dead. Mastina cannot be unshot.

It's obnoxious in general how much you criticize people for failing to develop correct reads you think they should develop, especially on your own slot.

"WOAT" itself seems like an inherently toxic term that shouldn't be used in any context.

Please try to take a look at how you're posting.

It may be over the top but my frustration is still warranted, since he really isn’t even trying to sort me and no, I don’t feel bad when I’m being confibiased. IE. I “feigned”confusion. Everyone who’s ever played with me knows I never fake either derps or AtEs and Alch should absolutely know this. When he stops making shitty reads:: ie. Mastina, then I’ll apologize but not a moment sooner.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Yo

We’re a vig, shot Alch last night

We spent N1 getting a bullet and couldn’t shoot

VOTE: Alch

-Mist

Couldn’t he have been doc’d? But yeah, it’s definitely hard to believe there are two vigs and his push on me was kind of scummy. But how do you distinguish bad town from scum?

But Mastina kill was really really bad and Alch was way different in CoaLITion, so . . .

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Why would Alch claim vig then, if he could expect a counter-claim?

-Present (Auro)

I don’t think he could have actually

-Mist

@Auro, what pings me is how once Elsa admitted to fakeclaim, how fast he jumped on us. Something seems off about him in this game. I just can’t put my finger on it. But I’ve been hard tr DM since the beginning and he has claimed to vig town twice and here he is trying to mislynch another one. Alch had pretty decent reads in CoaLITion and I think maybe even Overkill 2? So, for him to be this uncharacteristically bad here is definitely worrisome. My point Pops, is that Alchemist is very rarely a woat when it comes to reads, so maybe I was on to something. Like in Penguin, scum!Shos kept insisting Robb was scum for pretty much batshit insane reasons, so unless a player is just a relatively inexperienced newb making woat-like reads can more often than not, scum indicative. And if Alch is actually scum here, then I obviously have jack to apologize for.

~Fu

[Pink Ball]

Nancy, I think that pops' point was that should stop using the term WOAT no matter what your point is. It's triggering

[Past Present Future]

Yo

We’re a vig, shot Alch last night

We spent N1 getting a bullet and couldn’t shoot

VOTE: Alch

-Mist

Couldn’t he have been doc’d? But yeah, it’s definitely hard to believe there are two vigs and his push on me was kind of scummy. But how do you distinguish bad town from scum?

But Mastina kill was really really bad and Alch was way different in CoaLITion, so . . .

~Fu

But I think doc would have protected Elsa > Alch, since most tr her > Alch and a doc would want Alch to be self-resolving and the most damning of all:

why tf wouldn’t doc protect SS?

. Is there seriously anyone in their right mind who was still sr them post-claim and Mastina kill is beyond extremely suspicious, imo.

Yeah, doc would have saved SS > Elsa > Alch.

VOTE: Alchemist

~Fu

[Pink Ball]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

[Past Present Future]

Nancy, I think that pops' point was that should stop using the term WOAT no matter what your point is. It's triggering

Well being accused of faking anything is triggering to me, so he deserved it for accusing me of “feigning“ confusion.

~Fu

[Pink Ball]

Alch not dying could mean he's a 1 shot BP SK or some kind of iteration of that, but still not scum

[Past Present Future]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

But he vigged Mastina who just happened to have him as 2nd in her PoE after Pops/FL. I can’t help but find that suspicious.

~Fu

[Dats Mist]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

I don’t think there are three vigs, and my scumread on Alch isn’t really a secret

And as for your second question, I would rather not answer that

-Mist

[Pink Ball]

Nancy, I think that pops' point was that should stop using the term WOAT no matter what your point is. It's triggering

Well being accused of faking anything is triggering to me, so he deserved it for accusing me of “feigning“ confusion.

~Fu

Nancy, it's an overall thing, you've used the term not only in this case. And I don't think Alch was being mean spirited trying to trigger you, so he didn't deserve it. And don't get me started on the word "deserve" lol just avoid using that term please.

[Pink Ball]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

I don’t think there are three vigs, and my scumread on Alch isn’t really a secret

And as for your second question, I would rather not answer that

-Mist

There aren't three vigs, Elsa was lying lol and why in the world, if you thought that there were three vigs, would you think that Alch is the scummy one instead of Elsa, who would've hypothetically killed SS???

[Pink Ball]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

But he vigged Mastina who just happened to have him as 2nd in her PoE after Pops/FL. I can’t help but find that suspicious.

~Fu

That has nothing to do with my point, or does it? What's your point?

[Pink Ball]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

I don’t think there are three vigs, and my scumread on Alch isn’t really a secret

And as for your second question, I would rather not answer that

-Mist

There aren't three vigs, Elsa was lying lol and why in the world, if you thought that there were three vigs, would you think that Alch is the scummy one instead of Elsa, who would've hypothetically killed SS???

By "you thought there were three vigs" I meant that "if you thought both Elsa and Alch have made kills"

[Past Present Future]

Alch not dying could mean he's a 1 shot BP SK or some kind of iteration of that, but still not scum

Well, wouldn’t you much rather lynch that > over another townie? We don’t want a 3rd mislynch in a row and I’ve had a strong gut sr on him since the beginning and he doesn’t tunnel like this when he’s town. He 100% re-evaluates. I also think he knows our role could be possibly helpful to town, so scum!him definitely has good reason to want us dead. I really don’t want us waiting once again and probably mislynching DEB or some other lhf.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Nancy, I think that pops' point was that should stop using the term WOAT no matter what your point is. It's triggering

Well being accused of faking anything is triggering to me, so he deserved it for accusing me of “feigning“ confusion.

~Fu

Nancy, it's an overall thing, you've used the term not only in this case. And I don't think Alch was being mean spirited trying to trigger you, so he didn't deserve it. And don't get me started on the word "deserve" lol just avoid using that term please.

I never said he was “mean”, what I said was it was “triggering”, which is what your argument was based on and no, I don’t feel bad because I expect much better from Alch. Did you miss that part of my argument?

~Fu

[Pink Ball]

Alch not dying could mean he's a 1 shot BP SK or some kind of iteration of that, but still not scum

Well, wouldn’t you much rather lynch that > over another townie? We don’t want a 3rd mislynch in a row and I’ve had a strong gut sr on him since the beginning and he doesn’t tunnel like this when he’s town. He 100% re-evaluates. I also think he knows our role could be possibly helpful to town, so scum!him definitely has good reason to want us dead. I really don’t want us waiting once again and probably mislynching DEB or some other lhf.

~Fu

I'd rather lynch scum, that's my point. And I don't think you're right about that meta on Alch at all.

[Pink Ball]

Nancy you're missing my point: stop using the term WOAT, that's all, I'm not trying to say anything else. It will cause you trouble and put you in bad spots if you keep using it.

[Pink Ball]

Mist, did you ever crumb you were a vig?

[Past Present Future]

@Mist why do you think that you being a vig makes Alch not a vig? Also, since you had to look for a bullet... Is your role inherently a vig, or do you have a gun that could be scavenged later? If that's the case, I think Alch's claim still makes sense.

I don’t think there are three vigs, and my scumread on Alch isn’t really a secret

And as for your second question, I would rather not answer that

-Mist

There aren't three vigs, Elsa was lying lol and why in the world, if you thought that there were three vigs, would you think that Alch is the scummy one instead of Elsa, who would've hypothetically killed SS???

But would both vigs use the exact same kind of amo?

Iirc from Ok 2, wasn’t it stabbings that were associated with SKs and not mafia?

Therefore, based on that, SS kill would be more likely SK and lasers, mafia no?

And Krazy, was also my hydra partner in that.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Nancy you're missing my point: stop using the term WOAT, that's all, I'm not trying to say anything else. It will cause you trouble and put you in bad spots if you keep using it.

I love and respect you far too much to make promises I can’t guarantee. Sorry.

~Fu

[Pink Ball]

I thought about that possibility, but in this game that shooting requires ammo, it makes more sense that the scumteam doesn't need to reload to make the factional kill. Unless your suggestion is that the pew pew gun Alch has doesn't need to reload, which I think he claimed at some point it does.

That's why I asked Dats Mist about being inherently a vig or not, but I accept his not answer to that question.