Mini Normal 2118: Boon Gets Pretentious - [Day 4]

[Luca Blight]

Ame, trust me just this one time, please.

[Luca Blight]

If Karnage Flips Town then nothing is gained as he’s done nothing. Insomnia is a much better lynch.

I don’t know how you can TR Insomnia after he lied about my Frost argument? First time you could excuse it as just lazy reading, but he not only maintained it after I corrected him but slyly changed the wording of his misrep to make it a bit more ambiguous.

He is scum, simple as.

[clidd]

If anger is something he emulates in scum games, yes. Otherwise, no.

[Hectic]

Lul, what did I miss? 1v1s on mafiascum are always the highlight and simultaneously the most painful things to read on this site. One day, I might even be in one of these.

[Luca Blight]

Clidd, check insomnia’s town and scum meta and see which is most similar.

His post count may be higher, but his play this game has been awful. As Town he’s actually not bad.

So sick of talking about meta btw. Lynch the obvious scum based on blatantly scum behaviour.

[Ame]

If Karnage Flips Town then nothing is gained as he’s done nothing. Insomnia is a much better lynch.

I don’t know how you can TR Insomnia after he lied about my Frost argument? First time you could excuse it as just lazy reading, but he not only maintained it after I corrected him but slyly changed the wording of his misrep to make it a bit more ambiguous.

He is scum, simple as.

I don't think there's anything to gain from a Somni town flip either.

I don't think he lied, I think it's a misunderstanding. I do see why you think he's scum, but I think you should make an attempt at reading it from a townSomni perspective. I agree with him that backed down and falling under pressure are similar enough concepts to be used interchangeably.

[Luca Blight]

Ame, did you see where I literally explained and proved Insomnia was completely wrong, and he brushes it off as semantics, and later comes back with the same argument dressed up in different wording that I never said.

It isn’t a misunderstanding because I proved to him he was wrong. First time maybe, but the second time is a deliberate lie.

[insomnia]

This is a useless argument because the very definition of a tunnel is that I don't care about someone brushing off arguments by choosing to focus on semantics, if anything, it makes me even scum read that person more. that's how tunnels work and how it works on me, most importantly.

For the most part i don't listen to what people have to say and if i scum read someone i'll go to high degrees of lynching them even if they claim it's not what they meant, because i see it as something else, and their word means nothing for me if i already scum read them.

you don't wanna apply that to me specifically. because you'll be so wrong.

[AaronFrost]

Apologies for the inactivity, been stressed because of university and was not having a good mental health day yesterday. I'll be around later tonight.

[clidd]

Well, I'll be following the vote that Luca sets. There is still a small chance that Wippy left due to the discomfort in interacting with Ame. And I still believe in Insomnia as an incisive town, but it can be a problem if he establishes another similar tunnel, with another player, and the whole conflict begins again.

[Luca Blight]

Clidd, I’ve set my vote on Insomnia and it won’t be moving. Please vote him as well.

I’m confident in my read.

[Hectic]

So Luca and Flippo are masons. We wait for Flippo to corroborate the claim before we lynch, though it's probably not necessary. I keep zoning out while trying to read through this 1v1 and keeping up with flow of events (didn't get a lot of sleep), but I'm townreading Insomnia's tone unless he has a really strong AtE game as scum. For the record, I've played with him once before (he was scum), and he was a lot more calm/composed and less spotlight grabbing, that game was half year ago though.

[Ame]

Your argument for why he was wrong wasn't valid though. You're focused on word choice where he was speaking of the intention behind the words. He misinterpreted your argument but based on the posts he quoted here, I think it's perfectly acceptable to have to have interpreted your argument as Aaron backing down/falling under pressure.

[Hectic]

Somni, who are you scumreading now that Luca's claimed mason? You haven't placed your vote anywhere.

[Hectic]

Well, I'll be following the vote that Luca sets. There is still a small chance that Wippy left due to the discomfort in interacting with Ame. And I still believe in Insomnia as an incisive town, but it can be a problem if he establishes another similar tunnel, with another player, and the whole conflict begins again.

You're willing to follow Luca's vote onto Somni even though you have him as locktown? Are you suggesting you'd policy lynch Somni?

[clidd]

It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.

VOTE: Insomnia

[insomnia]

It is selfish of me, but I would like to be right about Insomnia and Karnage being towns, as I defined in my initial read.

VOTE: Insomnia

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[Luca Blight]

Ame, as I said the first time could have been a misunderstanding, BUT:

1) he didn’t reevaluate after realizing his reason for SR’ing me was completely wrong

2) he comes back in the thread later on when under pressure and resorts to the same argument, using different wording that I never said and he knows I didn’t say. It’s entirely disingenuous and only comes from a scum mindset. Don’t buy this tunneling nonsense - he’s only had any life to his posts when I’ve been on his case.

[Luca Blight]

Like, just because Insomnia’s got angry because he’s been caught doesn’t make him Town.

Look at his general play this game - lacking in any solving or intent. Some effort early on but the well soon ran dry. He is apparently tunneled on me yet only responds reactively? It’s always me pushing him and him responding, yet he’s in a tunnel? Nonsense.

[Ame]

He didn't realize his reason was wrong. As I said, it was a perfectly valid interpretation. And since he thought you were scum, he didn't take your arguments against it seriously. He should have been more open-minded, yes, but that doesn't make him scum.

I don't mind having opposing wagons, but I'm sticking with Karnage.

[Luca Blight]

Me, Clidd and Flips will vote Insomnia as well I’m sure. Just need two more to get it over the line.

Going to sleep now, will be back tomorrow.

[Ame]

Apologies for the inactivity, been stressed because of university and was not having a good mental health day yesterday. I'll be around later tonight.

No worries, feel better!

(And join me on Karnage when you come back online!)

[Luca Blight]

He didn't realize his reason was wrong. As I said, it was a perfectly valid interpretation. And since he thought you were scum, he didn't take your arguments against it seriously. He should have been more open-minded, yes, but that doesn't make him scum.

I don't mind having opposing wagons, but I'm sticking with Karnage.

I quoted the post which proved he was wrong. If he were Town he would have realized he was wrong.

He doesn’t know how to manurfacture a SR on me so felt the need to cling to that reason. He’s scum.

[Ame]

You didn't prove him wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Luca Blight]

Seriously Ame?

I quoted the post which proved I never said that Frost backed down under pressure, but in fact said he turned the argument back on me instead - which is the opposite.