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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:11 am

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@Light: He is refering to my post 257

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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:35 am

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No, no, by all means, please, allow me to link to games where I was scum and died a horrible, horrible death. :roll:

How about you just realize that your arguments against me make no sense and lynch someone else. Metagaming oneself is retarded. Could someone kill FL please?
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:07 pm

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@Lowell: That particular metagaming is going to supposedly saving you. :roll:
Although, I really don't think metagaming is the best strategy ever.

@Farside: Okay, I noted that, but didn't FL say nothing but how happy he is with his vote throughout the whole incident? *Just pointing that out.* Your argument still applies, but it looks a little less like scum bussing and a little like Sun is trying to take down a villager with him... Hmm... well, we do have an extra life, so if worse comes to worse, I can see logic behind a FL lynch, though I am still wondering about Lowell...
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:57 pm

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Rereading and to be honest, Im still not seeing what Farside is seeing. For the moment I dont support a FL lynch.
Light, whats the logic behind a FL lynch in a worse comes to worse?
Lowell suggesting that we lynch Fl instead of him seems a desesperate maneuver. Why do you think FL is 100% scum?
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:37 pm

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Light wrote:If their play seems scummy, they are probably scum.
This is pretty incorrect

Also Link to 533

Lowell was basically much more careful about what he said, and lurked more too. The play style is really different. Also, feel free to search one of the ongoing games to confirm this.

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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:33 am

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I don't think he's 100% scum. I think what farside pointed out is compelling (it wouldn't be the first time an angry noob tried to bring a teammate down with him), and that FL is therefore the best option.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:54 am

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Lowell wrote:I don't think he's 100% scum. I think what farside pointed out is compelling (it wouldn't be the first time an angry noob tried to bring a teammate down with him), and that FL is therefore the best option.
This is how I felt about the post. Something about Sun's rant really set an alarm bell in my mind especiallly seeing that post. However FL has really done some good things at the moment in his analysis that out weighs a newbie temper tantum.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:59 am

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farside22 wrote:
Lowell wrote:I don't think he's 100% scum. I think what farside pointed out is compelling (it wouldn't be the first time an angry noob tried to bring a teammate down with him), and that FL is therefore the best option.
This is how I felt about the post. Something about Sun's rant really set an alarm bell in my mind especiallly seeing that post. However FL has really done some good things at the moment in his analysis that out weighs a newbie temper tantum.
Mmmm. Didnt I say this before?
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:14 pm

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populartajo wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lowell wrote:I don't think he's 100% scum. I think what farside pointed out is compelling (it wouldn't be the first time an angry noob tried to bring a teammate down with him), and that FL is therefore the best option.
This is how I felt about the post. Something about Sun's rant really set an alarm bell in my mind especiallly seeing that post. However FL has really done some good things at the moment in his analysis that out weighs a newbie temper tantum.
Mmmm. Didnt I say this before?
It's why I changed my vote back to lowell. I really don't see a Light case anymore however. I think that is a dead end in my view.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:15 pm

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populartajo wrote:Rereading and to be honest, Im still not seeing what Farside is seeing. For the moment I dont support a FL lynch.
Light, whats the logic behind a FL lynch in a worse comes to worse?
Lowell suggesting that we lynch Fl instead of him seems a desesperate maneuver. Why do you think FL is 100% scum?
Popular, I am saying that if worse comes to worse, town should probably agree on voting whoever the best case is against. Obviously, I think Lowell is a better lynch, but with the timing, FL didn't seem like a really bad of a choice. Although, Lowell is my preference, I can see the FL lynch logic too.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:13 am

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Light, your reasoning annoys me. We're not under a deadline. Cut out the tunnel-vision.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:29 am

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how many scums we have in this game?
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:37 am

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Gimbo wrote:how many scums we have in this game?
A total of 4 mafia and 7 townie.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:40 am

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danggggg we're totally screwed....let's kill Lowell today
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:58 am

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farside22 wrote:
Gimbo wrote:how many scums we have in this game?
A total of
4
3 mafia and 7 townie.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:59 am

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Lol, in case it's not noticable. The 4 is cut out. It's not 43. It's 3.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:23 am

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Not tunnel vision. But how long can we reason and post before we see circle logic in every players judgmment. With confirmed alignments, we are able to more easily analyze the days discussion. In any case, Lowell, are you going to proposse your own thoughts, or simply continue agreeing with the thoughts of others?

You are at L-2, afterall...

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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:11 am

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If I agreed with the thoughts of others I wouldn't be in this mess.

The entirety of the case on me comes down to:

1)
I hammered/didn't hammer/meant to hammer/should have hammered.
I've commented on this already. I wasn't sold on his scumness (only his newbishness), but "giving up" posts are to me a sign of scumness. Sun Tzu tried to hammer himself, so I followed with an extra swing just in case someone else's vote didn't count/was illegal/etc.

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I agree with farside
. She's right on this. The line to FL about him being "busted, IMO" makes no sense whatsoever UNLESS he's talking to a fellow scum, angry that he was bussed on D1. Try to make that sentence make sense with Sun as scum and FL as town..... I dare you.

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Light-kun can't be bothered to think
. Not my problem. I've been clear about why FL deserves to die, and why we deserve for you think harder than just jumping on the nearest bandwagon.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:55 am

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Gimbo wrote:danggggg we're totally screwed....let's kill Lowell today
I dont think were screwed gimbo, stop bitching.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:45 pm

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^K7, you lurk for a few days then jumps back in to call me a bitcher, FUCK YOU!!!!
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:56 pm

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I'm back and willing to replace in (for anyone), BTW.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:57 pm

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^ NO get out, I'm you...you don't exist in this game, lol :(
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:34 pm

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Lowell wrote:If I agreed with the thoughts of others I wouldn't be in this mess.

The entirety of the case on me comes down to:

1)
I hammered/didn't hammer/meant to hammer/should have hammered.
I've commented on this already. I wasn't sold on his scumness (only his newbishness), but "giving up" posts are to me a sign of scumness. Sun Tzu tried to hammer himself, so I followed with an extra swing just in case someone else's vote didn't count/was illegal/etc.

2)
I agree with farside
. She's right on this. The line to FL about him being "busted, IMO" makes no sense whatsoever UNLESS he's talking to a fellow scum, angry that he was bussed on D1. Try to make that sentence make sense with Sun as scum and FL as town..... I dare you.

3)
Light-kun can't be bothered to think
. Not my problem. I've been clear about why FL deserves to die, and why we deserve for you think harder than just jumping on the nearest bandwagon.
1: No, you defended sun, and then hammered/extra hammered(?). So, yeah, fall through.

2: Farside is currently voting you. :roll: I see the logic of a FL lynch. I really do, but you have seemed kind of scummy. Plus, FL has been very pro town, and I can see lynching him after analyzing the early days again with more public knowledge. (ie, dead confirmed townie/mafia.) Yes, in light that Sun is mafia, FL can seem suspicious. But, I would have been more suspicious if Sun was town. Mostly because of all the happy on my vote comments by FL. So, I am going to have to wait and see his play and how players flip before I can really figure out what side he's on. (And please don't use some lame argument like: vote him now and find out.)

3: I think plenty, thank you. And why are you not questioning farside who thought up the attack on FL, that you are using, but who is now voting you...? Why criticize me alone? In any case, care to elaborate more on how FL has seemed scummy or anti town, because if you have some insight, I would love to hear about it. [/serious]

Gimbo, stop wasting our time and contribute to the conversation, even a little bit.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:51 am

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Either 320 and 321 is an elaborate ruse, or Aegor/Gimbo are town.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:05 am

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...what...?

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