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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:58 am

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In post 1001, Skygazer wrote:omfg im so stoned



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It's not personal, just a suggestion.
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1002, Skygazer wrote:also why r u townreading uncrowned
Intuition. The right question would be:
"why not ?"
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1024, Uncrowned wrote:Hm, are there any newer players in this lobby? That looks like a newb!scum NK to me. Possibly an attempt at playing off myself/Looker conflict

I thought Looker was scum tbh so this is beneficial

Amrun pushed TSH early so I doubt she's scum @Clidd
Hum, so ? It is not difficult to manufacture, considering that the game intent of TSH was tendentious from the beginning. "
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:11 am

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But he was grey flag. If it was black flag I'd be more inclined to agree but... that's a big risk to take for amrun if they're scum
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:15 am

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Big risky/Big reward. Whatever, if you want the lynch policy go ahead.

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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:30 am

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@
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When you get back, I want to see your current
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:35 am

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In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:55 am

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In post 1032, Amrun wrote:
In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
It doesn't pay. If Hectic defended the gray flag, hypothetically, and failed to redirect the lynch, he would be suspicious for the attempt the next day. In a game state where you only need one more scum elimination to win, this move would not be characteristic of
scum!Hectic
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:00 am

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I like this clidd much more than D1 clidd
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:24 am

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now what?
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:30 am

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In post 1024, Uncrowned wrote:Hm, are there any newer players in this lobby? That looks like a newb!scum NK to me. Possibly an attempt at playing off myself/Looker conflict

I thought Looker was scum tbh so this is beneficial

Amrun pushed TSH early so I doubt she's scum @Clidd
i want to vote here again and i feel like this post is really scummy in a vacuum but maybe the chances of scum actually having written it aren't that high
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:32 am

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In post 1016, Amrun wrote:VOTE: Blatant Scum

Zero content all day, literally never commented on TSH even one single time, and was off wagon. Really think this slot is much higher than rand scum.
if he's scum, what are scum doing?
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:46 am

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I mean, I'm biased, but clidd's right in that there's no way scum!me pushes my Grey Flag from the start to the whole day, and then last minute tries to stop it. If I'm hard bussing, I'm going all the way for that sweet, sweet towncred.

rooroo has a point about that Uncrowned post. Uncrowned, why is your first assumption that scum kills Looker to FRAME people she's scumreading, rather than the people she's scumreading simply being scum? Doesn't the latter make a lot more sense for killing someone off the TSE wagon than the former?

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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:54 am

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In post 1037, rooroo wrote:
In post 1016, Amrun wrote:VOTE: Blatant Scum

Zero content all day, literally never commented on TSH even one single time, and was off wagon. Really think this slot is much higher than rand scum.
if he's scum, what are scum doing?
Can you please restate this question?
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:55 am

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In post 1033, clidd wrote:
In post 1032, Amrun wrote:
In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
It doesn't pay. If Hectic defended the gray flag, hypothetically, and failed to redirect the lynch, he would be suspicious for the attempt the next day. In a game state where you only need one more scum elimination to win, this move would not be characteristic of
scum!Hectic
to do.
I don’t think Hectic is scum. There are much less obvious ways to do it, though. You were asserting that scum likely bussed and I want to know why because that’s not how I see it.
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:53 am

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In post 1039, Amrun wrote:
In post 1037, rooroo wrote:
In post 1016, Amrun wrote:VOTE: Blatant Scum

Zero content all day, literally never commented on TSH even one single time, and was off wagon. Really think this slot is much higher than rand scum.
if he's scum, what are scum doing?
Can you please restate this question?
what was scum's plan to win the game? tsh didn't have that much resistance and a slot like bs is probably going to get lynched sometime
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:41 am

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I'll do some work tonight with TSH' posts that could be good to analyze. I don't think they expected to get lynched since they were the gray flag and not the black, so a push from them after their wagon starting to get some traction could be telling. TSE is super literal, I think we can win by reading him.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:47 am

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Currently working on a reread/wagon analysis, stay tuned folks
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:51 am

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I mean, I like your new avatar, don't get me wrong... but hollow knight :(
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:54 am

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I started playing Cave Story recently and forgot how great that game was. Hollow Knight will always be my favorite, but Cave Story deserves special attention too.
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:00 am

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I really don't want to have high expectations upon Silksong, but it's no use, I fucking need it
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 1040, Amrun wrote:
In post 1033, clidd wrote:
In post 1032, Amrun wrote:
In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
It doesn't pay. If Hectic defended the gray flag, hypothetically, and failed to redirect the lynch, he would be suspicious for the attempt the next day. In a game state where you only need one more scum elimination to win, this move would not be characteristic of
scum!Hectic
to do.
I don’t think Hectic is scum. There are much less obvious ways to do it, though. You were asserting that scum likely bussed and I want to know why because that’s not how I see it.
How do you see, then ? I do not believe that it was clear these other
'' ways ''
that you unconsciously theorized, but it is evident that the method of diverting attention from
TSH
(more precisely
TSE
), sooner or later, would result in their own lynch. Therefore, it would be more beneficial if one of the flags used this device to appear '' justifiable '' when voting for they, thus being in a better position the next day.
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:20 am

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I had a flashback from the player
Espeonage
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1043, AaronFrost wrote:Currently working on a reread/wagon analysis, stay tuned folks
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