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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:03 am

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I'll bandwagon and agree with the above two posters.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:20 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:Rishi, are you trying to defend and reign in a scumbuddy? Cause it feels like that's a possibility. The only things cretin has contributed is...absolutely nothing. Posts != contribution. Posts with thought put into them are. However, Sun hasn't really met that requirement either. They both are non contributors as of yet. But it's hypocritical to focus on one, Rishi. Why?
Cretin is obviously not taking the game seriously. He's an idiot that'll likely be replaced soon. The posts show very little, but he's more annoying than scummy.

Sun Tzu on the other hand doesn't come into the game for a couple days and then posts, "We have to lynch someone." It's cretin's first vote. It's not like he's in danger of being lynched right now. Cretin is an easy target because he's unlikely to defend himself beyond saying something like "ur meen." It's pretty easy to attempt to lynch the annoying guy. Being annoying is a null-tell. How is calling for a lynch on Page 3 not scummy?

I know it's early but we need something to kickstart discussion.

Also, how come when one player defends another, those players automatically become scumbuddies? Trying to set up some chain lynches there?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:33 am

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Nope, if I were setting up chain lynches, I'd directly say that. Right now, I'm just saying there's a possible connection. The scumbuddy thing was actually a bit of jest. I still say that Sun Tzu and cretin are on equal levels of fail right now.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:59 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:Nope, if I were setting up chain lynches, I'd directly say that. Right now, I'm just saying there's a possible connection. The scumbuddy thing was actually a bit of jest. I still say that Sun Tzu and cretin are on equal levels of fail right now.
Nobody directly says "let's set up chain lynches".
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:01 am

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Hey guys, let's set up chain lynches!
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:11 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:Nope, if I were setting up chain lynches, I'd directly say that. Right now, I'm just saying there's a possible connection. The scumbuddy thing was actually a bit of jest. I still say that Sun Tzu and cretin are on equal levels of fail right now.
Nobody directly says "let's set up chain lynches
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:20 am

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I do. Or I would. If I personally thought A was scum, and had a strong correlation to B, I'd say "Alright, if we lynch A, and they come up scum, then we should probably lynch B". That's a chain lynch, is it not?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 am

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I am deadly serious.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:07 pm

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Rishi wrote:Cretin is obviously not taking the game seriously. He's an idiot that'll likely be replaced soon. The posts show very little, but he's more annoying than scummy.
That's an option? He has a right to play the game in his own way now, doesn't he?

From your earlier post, it didn't sound like you thought that was an option...
Rishi wrote:What do we do about cretin, by the way? Eventually we're not going to be able to ignore him.

He has no prior games played, so I can't tell if it's a jester ploy. I definitely don't want him alive in a hypothetical endgame, though.
Rishi wrote:Also, how come when one player defends another, those players automatically become scumbuddies? Trying to set up some chain lynches there?
I don't care for this. The only way forbiddan could be setting up chain lynches was if a. She and Cr3tin were scum partners and b. She's bussing her partner on page 3 and c. She thinks that the town would buy that and automatically lynch Rishi Day 2.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:09 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:I do. Or I would. If I personally thought A was scum, and had a strong correlation to B, I'd say "Alright, if we lynch A, and they come up scum, then we should probably lynch B". That's a chain lynch, is it not?
That's true. If you see a connection between two players and one flips scum, the second is probably scum (assuming your connection is an accurate one).
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:38 pm

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Crazy wrote:
Rishi wrote:Cretin is obviously not taking the game seriously. He's an idiot that'll likely be replaced soon. The posts show very little, but he's more annoying than scummy.
That's an option? He has a right to play the game in his own way now, doesn't he?

From your earlier post, it didn't sound like you thought that was an option...
Rishi wrote:What do we do about cretin, by the way? Eventually we're not going to be able to ignore him.

He has no prior games played, so I can't tell if it's a jester ploy. I definitely don't want him alive in a hypothetical endgame, though.
Hmm. That does seem like a contradiction. Good catch.
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Rishi wrote:Also, how come when one player defends another, those players automatically become scumbuddies? Trying to set up some chain lynches there?
I don't care for this. The only way forbiddan could be setting up chain lynches was if a. She and Cr3tin were scum partners and b. She's bussing her partner on page 3 and c. She thinks that the town would buy that and automatically lynch Rishi Day 2.
My statement about chain lynches was no more ridiculous than forbiddan's [sic] statement about me and cretin being scumbuddies. That's what I was going for.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:06 pm

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My statement about chain lynches was no more ridiculous than forbiddan's [sic] statement about me and cretin being scumbuddies. That's what I was going for.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:16 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:

My statement about chain lynches was no more ridiculous than forbiddan's [sic] statement about me and cretin being scumbuddies. That's what I was going for.
You say that nooow...
What's that supposed to mean? I brought up the chain lynches thing in my previous post. When did I claim I was trying to say something different?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:03 pm

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What it means is that earlier you seemed mildly more serious. I've tried the it was a joke thing as a defense before. It doesn't work. However, to be honest, I was just being pedantic :P.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:05 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:What it means is that earlier you seemed mildly more serious. I've tried the it was a joke thing as a defense before. It doesn't work. However, to be honest, I was just being pedantic :P.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:35 pm

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Thanks for the advice, n00b.
Just because I joined HERE recently, doesn't mean I haven't been playing mafia for longer than your lovely join date :P. I've been playing for close to two years, I believe. Just usually only one game at a time.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:15 pm

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Rishi wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:What has he contributed?
Not much.
i hav but no 1 replys
Rishi wrote:Cretin is obviously not taking the game seriously. He's an idiot that'll likely be replaced soon.
ur meen
Crazy wrote:That's an option? He has a right to play the game in his own way now, doesn't he?
ur rite

i fink sun tzu n forbiddanlight r mafier
i fink xtox is the jester

wat do u fink reply quickly i need 2 no
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:12 am

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Mwaha!
I have sucessfully confused Cretin. Phase 1 complete.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:56 am

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i fink sun tzu n forbiddanlight r mafier
i fink xtox is the jester
I fink j00 r dmbr thin a bx f rcks.

No, seriously, me and Sun? I said BOTH you and him weren't contributing worth a damn. It's just I found Rishi's defense of you slightly odd. And seriously, Xtoxm, it doesn't seem like it'd be that difficult to confuse him.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:08 am

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We can't afford to lynch people because they annoy us. And yes, while Cr3t1n is annoying, we can't lynch him for that. We lynch people for being scummy. If the town don't have enough people to swing the vote in their favour, the mafia can breathe easy.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:10 am

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We can't afford to lynch people because they annoy us. And yes, while Cr3t1n is annoying, we can't lynch him for that. We lynch people for being scummy. If the town don't have enough people to swing the vote in their favour, the mafia can breathe easy.
Why do you think I'm not voting Cretin. It wouldn't surprise me if he were the jester, or possibly scum. I don't want him to live to lylo, but he's a bad D1 lynch.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:28 am

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Then what are we supposed to do? By this, all the scum could just act jestery and we'd never lynch them.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:32 am

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Then what are we supposed to do? By this, all the scum could just act jestery and we'd never lynch them.
Wrong. The scum lose if they Jester is lynched. A scum acting jestery isn't going to live all game. The scum will eventually NK anyone who is acting too scummy and not on their team. They'll cut it close, but they aren't liable to let us lynch the jester. As such, scum acting jestery gets killed soon after the fact that the scum aren't killing them and it's getting too close. A lot of this set up solves itself by the way the rules are set up. Now, what do we lynch on? Scum tells, of course. Cretin, while being completely annoying and essentially useless, has been more fitting the bill of a useless townie possible jester than actual scum. He's a distraction. We need to focus on actual meat in this game.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:01 am

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Kay, then.

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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 pm

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Apothecary wrote: If the town don't have enough people to swing the vote in their favour
Why talk about town in third person?
forbiddanlight wrote:
Then what are we supposed to do? By this, all the scum could just act jestery and we'd never lynch them.
Wrong. The scum lose if they Jester is lynched. A scum acting jestery isn't going to live all game. The scum will eventually NK anyone who is acting too scummy and not on their team. They'll cut it close, but they aren't liable to let us lynch the jester.
Isn't scum more likely to leave scummy townies for possible next day lynches than simply NK them?
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