Titus v. Alisae (endgame)


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Post Post #7775 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:45 pm

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In post 7773, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 7769, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, Krazy is acting like the thread becoming a mess is a bad thing, but you can tell from the way he’s posting that it’s exactly what he wants because it muddies the waters with ScumHectic casing.
maybe I'm just negging you to keep you going :3

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That’s essentially what I said, yes
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Post Post #7776 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:45 pm

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In post 7774, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1645, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Like if hectic is scum I do need to know it but I am not seeing it from the issues you pointed to right now, I see a lot of town thought process there, or at the very least a compelling emulation of town thought processes

the aaron towncase was a meme but it also felt really good to me because I felt like
we were seeing a lot of the same things in aaron.
I think it would be surprising for scum to be mind-melding with me about the same posts in at the same time for a lot of the same reasons

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Neat post.
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Post Post #7777 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 7770, Flavor Leaf wrote:Exactly, so he wouldn’t have done it again like that. Thanks for town clearing me. That’s what I was actually looking for with this.
He might have. In any case I think asking to be guided into a read is more likely to be an approach to a town slot rather than a scum slot, since if people scumcase the slot it means he can push the slot without really having to effort it

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Post Post #7778 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 pm

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If you start quoting your own posts I'm going to report you for spamming though

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Post Post #7779 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 7772, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 7768, gobbledygook wrote:Yes. If scum do not know about it. Which Ali did know about it. Hence it was useless.
fair

I still think Esp was very townie off tone day 1

idk about dropping off in activity more recently but I don't know why people have him low in PoE

-S
It’s super weird people aren’t conftowning him when Ali literally said his role before he did and had been openly talking about Esp’s role for days.
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Post Post #7780 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 1651, Bitmap wrote:UNVOTE:

Need to think about this more.

@Ank:
Are you sure it's not just Hectic's playstyle that's causing you think this way? I've never been able to read him since he's always doing weird gimmicky things.

Hot diggity damn damn dog, game fucking over.

Krazy, you brought up Maki being defended.

Diggity dang diggity dong.
This is a wrap people. Hang Hectic.
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Post Post #7781 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:47 pm

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for procedure sake im waiting for titus
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Post Post #7782 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 7778, Sherlock and Watson wrote:If you start quoting your own posts I'm going to report you for spamming though

-S
I always quote my posts if they get lost on a page prior. That’s a scum tactic I use, I don’t let it go through. Report away for it, it won’t do anything
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Post Post #7783 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 7782, Flavor Leaf wrote:I always quote my posts if they get lost on a page prior. That’s a scum tactic I use, I don’t let it go through. Report away for it, it won’t do anything
Okay done

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Post Post #7784 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:49 pm

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well i'm going to sleep
put me as V/LA until 29th won't be reading the thread until then
wouldn't mind at all if i was lynched before then because this is kinda getting frustrating
look into Espeonage more who's been perfectly happy sitting back today and his vote on me earlier with lack of reasons was really bad
still think Sherlock/Watson and AaronFF are town
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Post Post #7785 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:49 pm

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In post 1654, Espeonage wrote:For the record Hectic is in my scum pool for posting in a similar style to Ali with far too much trolling and non serious reads.
In post 1655, OkaPoka wrote:hectic is just weird like he's posting in a creature-esque fashion but im use to him being more of a firebringer-esque player
In post 1656, OkaPoka wrote:at first i think it was scum indicative but i dont know if its ai atp
In post 1662, Amrun wrote:
In post 1656, OkaPoka wrote:at first i think it was scum indicative but i dont know if its ai atp
Hectic has very limited scum meta to judge off of, and what is there is old. Just FYI.


I’m trying to catch up just thought I’d drop this tidbit off as a gift.

People did seem to see ScumHectic or at least off things about a Hectic earlier. I like that, that’s consistency. There’s a reason for this. This all but disappeared shortly after, and I forgot it was even a thing.
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Post Post #7786 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:50 pm

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In post 7778, Sherlock and Watson wrote:If you start quoting your own posts I'm going to report you for spamming though

-S
TRIGGERED KEKW
GTKAS
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Post Post #7787 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:50 pm

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In post 7762, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Oh yeah and Ank runs away whenever I try to talk to her so that's fun too

GG wanted AF until you skewed her read on Hectic which is probably going to turn this dayphase into an unreadable mess and useless for us tomorrow

-S
I will happily kill either AF or Hectic. Both I think have high likelihood to flip scum.

The more I think about it, the more Ank scum makes sense here. Ali want out if eir’s way to nominate Ank for Paragon this year. I’m not sure Ali leaves Ank alive this long if Ank is town, knowing/holding Ank!town in such high regard.
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Post Post #7788 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 1703, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1559, Bitmap wrote:Am I the only one that likes Boon's recent posts?
Why do you like them?
In post 1704, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1596, Bitmap wrote:I can't read Hectic so someone fill me in.

The only game I played with him was when I was on my alt for Undertale and I just really wanted to lynch him for the weird things he did as town.
As many games as I've played with Hectic (I've lost count as this point) I feel like I should be able to read him decently well, but I've never seen his scum play firsthand. Most of the gimmicky stuff is NAI for him.
In post 1705, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1600, OkaPoka wrote:Titus will you consider endorsing a flavor lynch
I don't like how overly confident you are in your Flavor read
In post 1706, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1705, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1600, OkaPoka wrote:Titus will you consider endorsing a flavor lynch
I don't like how overly confident you are in your Flavor read
Like if you really want him lynched then you need to make a really convincing case on why his WIFOM logic comes from scum.

I'm not saying that FL is definitively town, and I've already said that I don't know how to read him, but I'm not convinced it comes from scum either.
In post 1707, Bitmap wrote:
In post 1702, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1698, Bitmap wrote:I like Watson better.
u wanna fite?

-S
ok
In post 1703, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1559, Bitmap wrote:Am I the only one that likes Boon's recent posts?
Why do you like them?
They felt genuine and seemed like even though his approach (setup spec) was bad, his intentions didn't seem bad.
In post 1708, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 1707, Bitmap wrote:
In post 1702, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1698, Bitmap wrote:I like Watson better.
u wanna fite?

-S
ok
In post 1703, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1559, Bitmap wrote:Am I the only one that likes Boon's recent posts?
Why do you like them?
They felt genuine and seemed like even though his approach (setup spec) was bad, his intentions didn't seem bad.
What useful intent did you find in those posts? Because I can certainly see plenty of scum intent in all the noise, but not a whole lot of reason to townread the slot for those specific posts.

-Cerb
This chain of posts has AaronFrost and RR being extremely genuine. They felt Bitmaps town read of me was off, which it was, he was making a smart pocket attempt, but it didn’t an out because I didn’t hard defend him. This also does not look SvS in the way they are talking and it really serves no purpose that way
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Post Post #7789 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:53 pm

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You think AF is TMIing his reads? idk the confidence in his reads while ignoring the mech points was interesting, maybe +townie

RR's solving outside of the mech 1v1 has been pretty tame but there are those little slivers of ~ehh maybe town from them

I'd almost rather unload Pine here. What do you think of unloading Pine GG?

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Post Post #7790 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 7787, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 7762, Sherlock and Watson wrote:Oh yeah and Ank runs away whenever I try to talk to her so that's fun too

GG wanted AF until you skewed her read on Hectic which is probably going to turn this dayphase into an unreadable mess and useless for us tomorrow

-S
I will happily kill either AF or Hectic. Both I think have high likelihood to flip scum.

The more I think about it, the more Ank scum makes sense here. Ali want out if eir’s way to nominate Ank for Paragon this year. I’m not sure Ali leaves Ank alive this long if Ank is town, knowing/holding Ank!town in such high regard.
Hard townie mindset. It makes sense because AF is the one scum wanted as the mislynch, or at least thought they had, Hectic is scum. The reason it didn’t go through on AF is because scum were trying to make town do it.
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Post Post #7791 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:55 pm

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In post 7787, gobbledygook wrote:I’m not sure Ali leaves Ank alive this long if Ank is town, knowing/holding Ank!town in such high regard.
true but her play has been bad enough that she could be positioned as a lynch target

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Post Post #7792 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:55 pm

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Hectic/Ank makes sense as a team. I thought it was weird Ank came in to say she correctly scumread Hectic when reality says otherwise.
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Post Post #7793 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:56 pm

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AF is someone who I also expect to be able to “want to be able to trust me” if that makes sense, and I get a strong vibe that AF really wants me to be town, but is scared after seeing the ScumFL first hand and by his side, and then me catching him as scum thereafter.
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Post Post #7794 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:56 pm

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In post 7787, gobbledygook wrote:The more I think about it, the more Ank scum makes sense here. Ali want out if eir’s way to nominate Ank for Paragon this year. I’m not sure Ali leaves Ank alive this long if Ank is town, knowing/holding Ank!town in such high regard.
alisae hydra'd with me in one of my (probably THE) worst games in the past half a year

e knows my weaknesses well enough to abuse them.
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Post Post #7795 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 7792, gobbledygook wrote:Hectic/Ank makes sense as a team. I thought it was weird Ank came in to say she correctly scumread Hectic when reality says otherwise.

Yeah, I do think if it isn’t Krazy then it’s Ank.

I expect Ank to get pushed tomorrow over Krazy and Krazy, if scum, will defend her still and try to move onto RR or Me.
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Post Post #7796 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 7792, gobbledygook wrote:Hectic/Ank makes sense as a team. I thought it was weird Ank came in to say she correctly scumread Hectic when reality says otherwise.
I'd lynch Ank for basically refusing to engage me seriously for the entire game but not because she's at all likely to flip scum imo

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Post Post #7797 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:58 pm

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In post 7789, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I'd almost rather unload Pine here. What do you think of unloading Pine GG?
The more I think about it the more I think Pine is lying about the Enabler part of his role. The part about his role I do know I think is useful for the town.
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Post Post #7798 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:58 pm

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I think I just am strong gut and tone reading Ankamius, and her overdefensiveness seems like when I play around and poke at Nancy for fun.

Similar vibe I’m getting here with Ank, so I think she’s likely town, and surface level gamestate she’s being setup for an eventual mislynch, which is more confirmed if you see Krazy as scum.
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Post Post #7799 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:58 pm

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I've given my thoughts in the thread today

they really haven't changed

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