BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Weiss Schnee]

OK

there is a scenario where BEF is scum

If Creature was not shared-PT with BEF, then Creature might have simply been supporting BEF's claim from 6483 not realizing it would implicate him if BEF actually flipped if he was unaware BEF was a split scum renegade

hmm

[Weiss Schnee]

SO

IF Titus docced BEF n1

AND

If Creature is not shared PT with BEF

AND

If Creature actually gambited on saying he tracked BEF to chara not realizing BEF was split renegade

then BEF could be scum

but it requires all three of those things to be true which means BEF would have had to be accidentally double cleared as scum this game LOL

[Weiss Schnee]

IF Titus docced BEF n1

ebwop joan obviously

[Weiss Schnee]

The only way I see Creature doing that gambit is if he actually doesn't know it's a gambit lolol

[50 Judge Powers]

@Weiss: Stop torturing me and yourself. Vote Nips and let me hammer. game over either way and I can't win if I'm scum. That should deal with your paranoia, shouldn't it?

P-edit: You ducking quoted it. BAMBI WAS CREATURE'S PT PARTNER. Your 9476 solves the bloody game. Joan was BEF's partner. Who do you think she docs?

VOTE: BEF

O SWEAR I'm not moving my vote off BEF here. You do as you will. I'm out of this thread.

[Weiss Schnee]

and wrt to Creature's announce, I received the PM from mod well after Daystart

[50 Judge Powers]

Bambi lied about Creature (or rather about chemist visiting Creature)

to protect Creature

. He know Creature is his buddy. That means Joan is in a PT with the remaining Scum (something I gad even noted when Bambi claimed to be in a PT with Joan after he was lynched).

[Weiss Schnee]

Honestly I don't hate it and it explains why this game has seemed so stupid

[Weiss Schnee]

Creature tries to soft bus BEF not realizing he's fucking up his claim then accidentally nearly clears him LOL

[Weiss Schnee]

Like it might just be stupid enough to be true

[Weiss Schnee]

idk RCE what do you think?

[RCEnigma]

My ego can't take false confirming scum again tbh.

[RCEnigma]

What we're Joan's claimed saves?

[Weiss Schnee]

OK but put that shit out of your mind

what is your read of BEF based on dayplay alone? his associatives are maybe the worst in the game short of nips?

[Weiss Schnee]

Joan of Arc
CLAIM: Loyal Doc
N1: Titus
N2: Chemist
N3: Titus

all obvious horseshit

[Weiss Schnee]

If Creature-Bambi was one PT and BEF-Joan the other then Joan is very likely to doc BEF over the other buddies she's not in a PT with due to her desire to be in PTs with scum so put the disloyal shot out of mind

The Creature interaction is still uhhhh weird but let's think it through

[50 Judge Powers]

What we're Joan's claimed saves?

The one that concerns you was N1's claim she protected Titus "because she's the only one she knows on this player list". That was an obvious lie on its own, but then she already flipped Scum, so...

[RCEnigma]

Give me a bit to think it over with my shot out of the equation.

[Weiss Schnee]

After re-reading the latter parts of JP50s iso, with emphasis on the Joan lynch posts, it makes me think they are not the same alignment. I am kind of TRing 50JP now.

Joan of Arc [7]:

50 Judge Powers, Amrun, Weiss Schnee, RCEnigma, Titus, Joan of Arc, Bambi Jay ———

[EXECUTED]

Why is my vote missing from the VCA?

Now that Titus isn't 100% sure I don't feel as cautious voting for Joan. I was under the impression that Titus had more than meta info.

VOTE: Joan

I kind of want to look to those NOT on the Joan wagon. Which should include Bambi, Haggle, Emperor flippyNips, Chemist1442, Davesaz,

Creature.

Man...

Why are we doing absolutely no progress towards finding scum?

My sui bomb is today’s lynch. Remember Shiro had to ask about that?

Wait you have suicide bomb?

BEF visited Chara

I didn't want to reveal that earlier because it would ruin the momentum of chk wagon

The difference/progession in posts 6925 and 6935 is not adding up, especially when you realize they are only 4 mins apart.

VOTE: Creature

And why suspect CREATURE as BEF, who theoretically should be aligned?

Then why did Creature start the wagon on me if we are aligned?

Why does scum Creature track you on that night From your POV?

Scum!Creature would probably be fishing for a PR or one of the other scum partners by tracking me, I would assume.

8707 is the best anti-associative but it's very late in the game

8716 is bad

8722 reads really weird

[RCEnigma]

What's the vote situation on Joan like atm?

What's the vote situation on Joan like atm?

I think with Titus, that makes 8 votes. I think we need 11 to lynch right?

ok so I'm not hammering.

VOTE: joan

UNVOTE:

UNVOTE:

@V&M

Do you think we are dealing with scum!chara here?

I’m tr everyone on Joan wagon. I can’t help but wonder if the two slots most opposed had a tmi on Joan.

I feel exactly the same. I really want to believe the Joan claim but something isn't right. It's either what you said or the claim is BS.

I think the claim saved them from the lynch today.

[Weiss Schnee]

I dunno... chemist then?

@BEF: What is your take/read on chemist??

I'm TRing that slot. I don't really trust his Creature result though.

But either of you dying will clear or mostly guilty the other. That's why I'm doing this.

This is what I don't unterstand. Why can't we both be town?

8733 is kinda bad but there's a lot of theater on page 2 of the iso for s/s

[50 Judge Powers]

1- Joan SR's Bambi (#6611), and Bambi SR'd Joan on several points of his ISO. I can assure you they were NOT PT partners.

2- I can also assure you from the looks of it neither pair knew who the other pair was.

3- #2 should tell you Creature was Bambi's PT partner 100% of the time. Creature was the ONLY scum partner Bambi knew of and thus lied to produce a false inno on him.

4- So, Joan was a Scum Doctor who protected

the only scum she knew

on N1. THAT is what happened to RCE's Vig shot.

[50 Judge Powers]

Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
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Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
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Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF
Lynch BEF

[Weiss Schnee]

Oh shit Creature was still on the Fish from earlier so he was actually at L-1 for a bit until Weiss unvoted. Amrun could've had a chance to hammer had Weiss not unvoted.

Good job Weiss.

you know I kinda remember thinking this spewed BEF town but maybe he was actually just trying to frame me?

[RCEnigma]

I liked most of this real time but this is a downward trajectory that looks like an attempted wagon stall. Maybe to prevent the claim in the first place.

Trying to get V&M onto Chara looks worse in retrospect.