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[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Gera

I could see it too. Didn’t like their play when they were nearing lynch yesterday

[Aloratom]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

[Flavor Leaf]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Bob is literally the counterwagon

[Flavor Leaf]

And I'm usually pretty content and less paranoid on things when Jake and I have similar reads.

[Jake from State Farm]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Explain you’re thinking when most people think the exact opposite as you.

[Jake from State Farm]

your*

[Aloratom]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Explain you’re thinking when most people think the exact opposite as you.

With the way Bob was defending geraintm, I thought there may have been a connection.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Going up in gsp is like a drug

VOTE: Geraintm

[Emperor flippyNips]

Spoiler:

[Jake from State Farm]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Explain you’re thinking when most people think the exact opposite as you.

With the way Bob was defending geraintm, I thought there may have been a connection.

Ok but bob town doesn’t say anything about germ’s alignment.

[Flavor Leaf]

Going up in gsp is like a drug

VOTE: Geraintm

What from 120k to 125k?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Going up in gsp is like a drug

VOTE: Geraintm

What from 120k to 125k?

126 to 250k

[Flavor Leaf]

I was hoping for the Pam yup gif

[mavsfan41]

@ people jumping on the geraintm wagon: can someone explain to me the case against him? Personally, I’ve got the same read on him I had on bob3141. They’re town who are posting a lot and sorta trying to get the game moving but not really actually looking for scum. I get how that makes them appear scum but as more scummy when compared to other players here? I guess geraintm’s outlook is slightly worse cause he’s self-proclaimed not scum hunting yet, but idk why he appears to be a more appealing target than some of the lurkers out there who come, vote on the wagon, say little to justify their vote, and disappear till the next wagon.
Looking at you espressojet and emperor flippynips (and to a lesser extent flavor leaf as you’re not actively lurking as bad).

Imo that looks scummier than whatever is is that geraintm is doing.
@geraintm: what are you doing? Day 2 is here. Any scum reads to share? Yea, flavor looks scummy, espressojet too, and now emperor flippynips I get is lurking and posting to vote on a wagon and provide absolutely nothing else. But anything else?

[Flavor Leaf]

flavor looks scummy, espressojet too, and now emperor flippynips

This is interesting.

[Jake from State Farm]

They’re town who are posting a lot and sorta trying to get the game moving but not really actually looking for scum.

Meanwhile this is essentially why you called me scum...

[Jake from State Farm]

And you ignore the whole counter wagon argument.

We tried and failed to lynch germ. We lynched a townie instead. If germ was town, odds are a new wagon wouldn’t have formed on somebody else.

[Aloratom]

VOTE: geraintm

You've got a point.

[UnaBombaH]

We already have a turbowagon on the rise, eh?
I'll read sometime today what has been happening so far.

I think the bob-wagon wasn't as informative as it could've been, and I still think gera might not have been a bad choice per se, but at the very start of day 2 we are rushing to that lynch?
Eh?

Maybe some discussion first?

If germ was town, odds are a new wagon wouldn’t have formed on somebody else.

Odds are that it depends solely on the people starting the pushes.
Now assume germ is town - you could argue that 0-1 scum were ever in the bob lynch. (obv. could be any other number too, but for the sake of your argument about odds)
These scum would now want gera lynched, because they'd have the angle of "I wanted gera yesterday, but then you guys formed a counterwagon on a townie".
So lynching gera today becomes almost like a freebie..

[profii]

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Explain you’re thinking when most people think the exact opposite as you.

This is a bit spicy. At the point of this post 'most people' was you and FL.

Granted EFN has voted Ger but I actually kinda agree with alorotom that i dont think Ger is scum in spite of being the c/w

There is nothing stopping us getting it wrong twice and scum just laughing at us

[Egix96]

@

1) people jumping on the geraintm wagon: can someone explain to me the case against him?

Personally, I’ve got the same read on him I had on bob3141. They’re town who are posting a lot and sorta trying to get the game moving but not really actually looking for scum. I get how that makes them appear scum but as more scummy when compared to other players here? I guess geraintm’s outlook is slightly worse cause he’s self-proclaimed not scum hunting yet, but idk why he appears to be a more appealing target than some of the lurkers out there who come, vote on the wagon, say little to justify their vote, and disappear till the next wagon.
Looking at you espressojet and emperor flippynips (and

2) to a lesser extent flavor leaf as you’re not actively lurking as bad

).

Imo that looks scummier than whatever is is that geraintm is doing.
@geraintm: what are you doing? Day 2 is here. Any scum reads to share? Yea, flavor looks scummy, espressojet too, and now emperor flippynips I get is lurking and posting to vote on a wagon and provide absolutely nothing else. But anything else?

1) I'd like to see this too.

2) No? I get the impression that Flavor has been active lurking (problem is he usually does this on D1 of games ime) whereas EFN probably was away for a long time?

[profii]

Vote count 1.FINAL

bob3141 (7) ~

unabombah, profii, brighteyedfish, emperor flippynips, jake from state farm, espressojet, flavor leaf

aloratom (3) ~

egix96, ejjinami, bob3141

geraintm (1) ~

aloratom

flavor leaf (1) ~

geraintm

brighteyedfish (1) ~

mavsfan41

with 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-01 10:31:46)

mod notes:

-

bob3141 has been lynched! he was a

Spoiler:

vanilla townie

deadline for night actions:

(expired on 2020-03-01 17:22:47)

please submit night actions to me by pm or pt, if you have one

Vote count 1.4

geraintm (5) ~

aloratom, bob3141, jake from state farm, profii, unabombah

espressojet (3) ~

espressojet, ejjinami, brighteyedfish

profii (1) ~

geraintm

aloratom (1) ~

egix96

bob3141 (1) ~

mavsfan41

not voting (2) ~

Emperor flippyNips, Flavor Leaf

with 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-01 10:31:46)

mod notes:

-

Those were the wagon peaks just from mod ISO (haven't checked every post etc)

Unas point about the counter wagon being likely to have less scum is logical, but I'm wary because I didnt realise he was on both wagons there... I feel like he is inviting me to conclude scum wouldn't be brazen and vote for town slot after town slot without actually saying it directly which is uncomfortable.

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm glad we finally have a wagon to start picking apart:

Vote count 1.FINAL

bob3141 (7) ~

unabombah, profii, brighteyedfish, emperor flippynips, jake from state farm, espressojet, flavor leaf

aloratom (3) ~

egix96,

ejjinami, bob3141

geraintm (1) ~

aloratom

flavor leaf (1) ~

geraintm

brighteyedfish (1) ~

mavsfan41

with 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-01 10:31:46)

mod notes:

-

It hard for me to imagine that there is not at least 1 scum on that Bob wagon.

That leaves:
unabombah, profii, brighteyedfish, emperor flippynips, jake from state farm, espressojet, flavor leaf

FL hammer is a FL hammer. I wish this was AI but FL could still go other way. This is where his meta helps him as both alignments. So I will remove him (and myself) for my current PoE

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

Una and (lurky) Nippy are still null for me right now:

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

Jake could still be SvS with FL, I don't want to let this go entirely just yet.

iirc profii was SR by Ejji and I have experience with scum!profii but I'm not for sure if profii is a scum who kills people who SRs him.

Also, that L-1 from EJ was the worst vote out of the entire wagon.

As much as I hate to say it;

We learn nothing from lynching a lurker today unless they flip scum

Which is statistically unlikely

Your assessment on Bob being active and posting is actually a valid reason to make this our day 1 lynch

Whatever the flip, we learn in retrospect

VOTE: Bob

May his sacrifice not be in vain

The last line is a scum slip imo. He knew bob was a "sacrifice" but forgot to check his tone. I'm starting here D2 but I feel very confident that this is the best lynch if we want to focus on bob's wagon.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: espressojet

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

VOTE: Gera

I could see it too. Didn’t like their play when they were nearing lynch yesterday

If you two are just trolling my Jake&FL scum team theory, please stop. This isn't helping.