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[Jake from State Farm]

exactly

[UnaBombaH]

OK guys, you had your fun already.
I wonder how everyone else would react, if I outed a guilty on one of you now?

[UnaBombaH]

And before Boon comes here and FoS's me into submission, I got no result like that last night.

I'm just bored.

[Emperor flippyNips]

BEF, one of Egix/Aloratom, then possibly Espresso for the scum team is standing out to me.
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I may not want Gera anymore

I was also thinking aloratom (I think that’s the right person) and espresso for scum

[Jake from State Farm]

OK guys, you had your fun already.
I wonder how everyone else would react, if I outed a guilty on one of you now?

how would you react if I outed a guilty on somebody?

[Jake from State Farm]

OK guys, you had your fun already.
I wonder how everyone else would react, if I outed a guilty on one of you now?

why do you think the three of us is scum? why is germ town?

[Jake from State Farm]

vc please when you are not busy at work

[Emperor flippyNips]

It kinda makes my EJ case get buried though.

i actually really like your EJ case

i sheep VOTE: espresso

[Jake from State Farm]

his Ej case is a scum slip which could very well not be a scum slip. what do you like about that exactly?

[Emperor flippyNips]

i guess its not as solid as i once thought. i probably got caught up in how i already was sr espresso ,which is more of a gut read and jumped on it

[Emperor flippyNips]

i did get some scum pings from him d1 tho

[Emperor flippyNips]

i got some pings d1 from Aloratom too but i feel like they were almost in a way where i was getting pings from bob :shrug:

i'll have to check back on that

[Egix96]

let me get this straight. 9 posts and you are calling someone out for lurking and you want my reads - when you have provided straight up bupkiss this game?

I want you to do a ton more this game. if you are town, you should be. if you are scum, I want you to because I am going to be pissed if overly eagerly voting townies who are bored get us to an end game with you coasting.

To be clear, I'm saying that FL's active lurking is null for him rather than scummy, and I wasn't quite asking you for

your reads

, but yeah (*bows head*) you have a point.

And yes I'm gonna try and be more active now. I'm planning to have a quick reread of the game this evening.

[mavsfan41]

Does anyone have a hypothesis on the NK victim? My townie reads were UnaBombaH, profii and ejjinami. Figured one of them was going down. Geraintm I also get a weird townie read (scum I feel would be more, umm, “careful” when posting) but I know why he wasn’t NK’ed....

Does anyone have a guess of why ejjinami? Skimming through his posts now (will go more in depth later) my only read would be that he was one of the few that had an early scum read on alorotam. Flimsy at best and maybe he was just a rando target picked from the strongest townie reads. Also, that would be assuming there was a motivation to his NK and why he was targeted over some other players. Maybe the reason is he was less likely to be a mislynch victim and that’s good enough for a NK target.

[mavsfan41]

@aloratom: to end day 1, two confirmed townies had voted you in bob3141 and ejjinami. Have any feelings on egix96 who is the sole survivor from the day 1 vote count?

[Aloratom]

This is a bit spicy. At the point of this post 'most people' was you and FL.

I’m talking about in general. In mafia most players understand and believe in the concept of counter wagons.

You open the door to your counter wagon and I walk in to the Hotel California.

[Aloratom]

We already have a turbowagon on the rise, eh?
I'll read sometime today what has been happening so far.

I think the bob-wagon wasn't as informative as it could've been, and I still think gera might not have been a bad choice per se, but at the very start of day 2 we are rushing to that lynch?
Eh?

Maybe some discussion first?

If germ was town, odds are a new wagon wouldn’t have formed on somebody else.

Odds are that it depends solely on the people starting the pushes.
Now assume germ is town - you could argue that 0-1 scum were ever in the bob lynch. (obv. could be any other number too, but for the sake of your argument about odds)
These scum would now want gera lynched, because they'd have the angle of "I wanted gera yesterday, but then you guys formed a counterwagon on a townie".
So lynching gera today becomes almost like a freebie..

^^^ like this post. Both wagons yesterday were terrible, filled with awful logic and ended too quickly (you don't let a day end when there are so many lukers, its just unhelpful for town, always)

I don't understand. If your wagon was illogical, why was it bad that it dissolved quickly?

[profii]

Does anyone have a hypothesis on the NK victim? My townie reads were UnaBombaH, profii and ejjinami. Figured one of them was going down. Geraintm I also get a weird townie read (scum I feel would be more, umm, “careful” when posting) but I know why he wasn’t NK’ed....

Does anyone have a guess of why ejjinami? Skimming through his posts now (will go more in depth later) my only read would be that he was one of the few that had an early scum read on alorotam. Flimsy at best and maybe he was just a rando target picked from the strongest townie reads. Also, that would be assuming there was a motivation to his NK and why he was targeted over some other players. Maybe the reason is he was less likely to be a mislynch victim and that’s good enough for a NK target.

A quick skim doesnt give me any distinct reads yet I felt he was quite towny so maybe scum found a kill that doesnt give much away

People often say "player X scum read player Z, then player X died, ergo player Z likely scum" but that seems too obvious to me

[profii]

That being said I'm voting Alo so i dunno

[Emperor flippyNips]

Does anyone have a hypothesis on the NK victim? My townie reads were UnaBombaH, profii and ejjinami. Figured one of them was going down. Geraintm I also get a weird townie read (scum I feel would be more, umm, “careful” when posting) but I know why he wasn’t NK’ed....

Does anyone have a guess of why ejjinami? Skimming through his posts now (will go more in depth later) my only read would be that he was one of the few that had an early scum read on alorotam. Flimsy at best and maybe he was just a rando target picked from the strongest townie reads. Also, that would be assuming there was a motivation to his NK and why he was targeted over some other players. Maybe the reason is he was less likely to be a mislynch victim and that’s good enough for a NK target.

Yeah I thought he was the kill cos he was a pretty easy tr

You have a history with gera?

[Aloratom]

VOTE: aloratom

I nearly voted Espresso, but I think his L-2 vote, knowing FL would L-1 (which is NAI from FL) was kinda too scummy to be scum... My expectation of Day 1 was that the wagon on bob was going to actually die out and we would move on to another wagon, I'm not sure why it just felt like momentum had passed... so the rapid 2 votes with no claim etc was a bit of a surprise.

Anyway, I think Alo has been a bit all over the place and is kinda almost letting people tell him who to vote and it comes over like 'oh if i do this vote, people will like me/think im town' - I nearly voted for espresso, but I think that vote was too risky perhaps... Unless the scum team is Espresso and Ger and the fear was the wagon would revert to Ger after it failed on Bob.

But anyway, I'll read the thread more later and look at what I can find, this is my gut feeling for now.

Actually, I had three votes yesterday, geraintm, espresso, and geraintm. But that's alright.

You see something between espresso and geraintm?

[Aloratom]

If you two are just trolling my Jake&FL scum team theory, please stop. This isn't helping.

I’m not doing anything of the sort. He could be scum. I’m still down for a flavor flash

Does your Day 1 wagon theory hold for Day 2?

[mavsfan41]

@profii: you’re not wrong. Just want to make sure I’m doing my due diligence on NKs

@emperor: none whatsoever. I just read him that way. He’s seems too sincere to be scum (at least for now).

@aloratom: my snapshot was the final vote count when bob3141 was lynched and how day 1 voting ended.

[Aloratom]

@aloratom: to end day 1, two confirmed townies had voted you in bob3141 and ejjinami. Have any feelings on egix96 who is the sole survivor from the day 1 vote count?

I don't know if two of the three votes on me being confirmed Town is indicative of anything or not yet. I'm kind of null on egix, but Flavor and geraintm seem to think he has scum equity. That holds if scum were not on the Bob wagon, but that also implicates me. And you and geraintm btw. According to that analysis, my vote should stay where it is. With regard to your question on ejji, I was looking at that last night and couldn't come up with anything. Him being the Night Kill makes about as much sense as anyone really except for a lurker perhaps. His last post indicated that he had pings from about everyone.

[Aloratom]

@profii: you’re not wrong. Just want to make sure I’m doing my due diligence on NKs

@emperor: none whatsoever. I just read him that way. He’s seems too sincere to be scum (at least for now).

@aloratom: my snapshot was the final vote count when bob3141 was lynched and how day 1 voting ended.

With regard to me is this à propos to 714?