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[Ankamius]

when would you kill kuribo?

you aren't pushing him because that doesn't help you win the game, all that does is buy you a day if it succeeds

when did FL start bussing?

[panthaleon]

....yesterday? When he started pushing me?

[Ankamius]

FL was dead yesterday???

[panthaleon]

Wait DEB died yesterday. The day before then.

Whenever FL was last alive he was pushing me. How can you have forgotten that.

[Ankamius]

Gamma

Nomnom

Kuribo

Espresso

DEB

Ank
Firebringer

Davesaz
Almost50

MariaR

Panth

[panthaleon]

You know what, i don’t care about the team.

I’m gonna stick with A50/Panth Scum/Scum, and then keep individual scum reads.

Please lynch Panth.

A50 has expressed his willingness to vote Panth as well. Call that bluff.

I’d rather y’all just vote Panth.

VOTE: Nomnom

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[Ankamius]

I think scum have to mislynch one of

DEB

/Gamma or this game’s done for them.

EP

and

I

are pretty much masons at this point,

DEB

is spewed town because of Maria scum, Gamma just got doc’d.

Scum have to keep options open.

hmmmmm yes yes

[Ankamius]

You know what, i don’t care about the team.

I’m gonna stick with A50/Panth Scum/Scum, and then keep individual scum reads.

Please lynch Panth.

A50 has expressed his willingness to vote Panth as well. Call that bluff.

I’d rather y’all just vote Panth.

VOTE: Nomnom

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that's a hell of a bus, he didn't even vote you

[panthaleon]

Why
did
FL
try
to
start
a
bus
on
me
if
we
are
both
scum

[Ankamius]

Looks like I’m going down, so I’m gonna give final reads in case I don’t get to post anymore.


Gamma - annoyingly conf town, but doesn’t realize he isn’t if I were scum here. He becomes conf town after I flip.
Firebringer - his defense of me makes zero sense coming from scum

EP

- just weird if he’s scum, it would have to be a masterful scum game by him, and I don’t think it is.

Ankamius - a lot of No u nope discrediting, but I feel like scum were abusing her all game. I also think A50 has much higher scum equity than she does, so I’m leaning A50 over her for her neighborhood.

DEB

- barely played, bad shift, using opportunity to hop onto me with his “always can vote FL” shtick. Bad gimmick.
Panthaleon - hard pushed Nomnom, Maria and Panth were town reading entire hood, but only protecting each other.

Kuribo - Xtoxm should never read me as scum here. Point blank. This is probably scum who was pocketing me throughout, more of a I jumped in their pocket kinda deal. Xtoxm should see I’m town here, as should Skitter on A50’s team, so those are also reasons as to why I think these 2 are scum right now. It also makes sense to fuel the fire between FL vs Ank for days.

Davesaz - refuses to claim because I think it confirms Gamma as town. Him not claiming actively keeps Gamma in the mix, and after everything is done tomorrow, he can lie about what actions he used OR he can claim a guilty, likely fake if he is scum.
Almost50 - misrepped and hard discredited and essentially lied when casing. This was right after I had started to turn on A50, which makes me feel they felt they were going down, and then had a golden opportunity to shift it on me.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Ankamius]

FL does this lukewarm attack on panth going into night 5
he starts day 5 calling Panth/A50/dave scum, then starts going after dave

then he realizes he's fucked and starts flinging shit everywhere

and then he posts 7022 where he postures fucking everybody instead of his scumpartner DEB... and Panth

[panthaleon]

I'm so excited to flip town

And then kuribo will get lynched because there has to be a scum over here because PoE

And then he'll flip town and the PoE will have to be Firebringer

And then Firebringer will flip town and people will just be so confused how that was even possible.

[Firebringer]

I'm so excited to flip town

And then kuribo will get lynched because there has to be a scum over here because PoE

And then he'll flip town and the PoE will have to be Firebringer

And then Firebringer will flip town and people will just be so confused how that was even possible.

Can u cry louder for me

[panthaleon]

There's still no case on me beyond 'well PoE and mechanics and blah blah blah'

I'm going to flip town and then people are going to just shrug about it

[Ankamius]

you haven't acknowledged any of the points made against you or why we believe your PoE is town

you've been flailing

[panthaleon]

Ank why didn't I kill anyone the last two days

Why didn't I take my double vote for killing kuribo

Why did I get in a fight with FL

Why did I pick a fight with DEB

Why did I antagonize nom? How does that make sense if I just gave her a vengeshot

[Firebringer]

Instead of doing whatever it is ur doing.

I have crazy thoughts

What if u gave us alternatives with good explanations that we can bounce thoughts of

[panthaleon]

Ank is pushing a shitty case on me.

Dave has looked shady forever.

A50 is a non player.

But don't worry those three are all conf town so I must be wrong

[Ankamius]

the double vote isn't going to help scum!you in this situation, and I don't think the scumteam ever valued it very highly or otherwise kuribo would've been killed a long while back (or my push on him would've been supported more than it was)

the scumteam obviously had no real qualms with fighting each other, considering FL has been doing it endlessly with mariar and DEB all game; it's not exactly hard to fight with someone who's already known to have fought his two known scumpartners and somebody who's doing absolutely fuck all most of the game

A50's theory for why you antagonized nom was to make sure FL didn't get venged, it really wouldn't surprise me if the goal WAS for you to take the shot instead of any other scum if any scum would be shot; as for why scum gave her a vengeshot, who the fuck knows they probably wanted her to stay alive as a distraction and to shoot town when it was finally her time to get lynched. It honestly would make sense for you to antagonize her like that as scum if the plan was to lynch her later since having her be perpetually tilted out of the game both removes her voice and keeps her as a viable distraction for everybody else

killing anyone... who exactly would you even kill?

A50 and me, you'd just give the other a vig shot.
Gamma, just got a bulletproof.
Kuribo, there's enough talk about double scum in the roleblocking neighborhood from past days that you can't just kill him for a useless doublevote
Firebringer, mislynch
Davesaz, mislynch

you actually have no options for kills without either giving town an advantage you can't give them or reducing your own possibilities to save your own skin

[panthaleon]

Your case is so bad

I hope that you're scum

VOTE: Ank

There is no way you're this dense as town.

[Ankamius]

A50 literally called DEB/FL both scum when MariaR flipped in the neighborhood... like IMMEDIATELY during night phase and was very insistent that I followed him on it. I've already gone into why I don't think this is a power play in the thread

FL and MariaR went pretty fucking hard on lynching me when the momentum started pushing back towards nom, plus they spent so much of the game trying to shade and discredit me while MULTIPLE TOWN (kuribo/a50/nom) were blatantly attacking me at the same time, meanwhile I'm flailing trying to get an actual foothold into the game to get anything done. In what fucking universe is this a viable play for a scumteam with THREE KNOWN COMPETENT SCUM IN IT?

[Ankamius]

VOTE: panth

I've made my case, cya

[panthaleon]

Imagine thinking that scum just decided to stop killing folks.

I miss when mafia was actually good.

[Ankamius]

this is a trapped scum mindset

I've gone into a lot of detail into why I think the last scum is exactly him, I've addressed all his points, and his response is 7469

A50 has also done a lot to express why he thinks Panth is scum and why our previous reasons for townreading him were wrong... no response.

he isn't looking to solve the game, he's looking to survive.

[Ankamius]

Imagine thinking that scum just decided to stop killing folks.

I miss when mafia was actually good.

killing anyone... who exactly would you even kill?

A50 and me, you'd just give the other a vig shot.
Gamma, just got a bulletproof.
Kuribo, there's enough talk about double scum in the roleblocking neighborhood from past days that you can't just kill him for a useless doublevote
Firebringer, mislynch
Davesaz, mislynch

you actually have no options for kills without either giving town an advantage you can't give them or reducing your own possibilities to save your own skin