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[NorwegianboyEE]

The Automatic vote count machine is very picky so don’t misspell the name of the person you are voting/use nicknames. Also use the vote tag.
I think a lot of votes didn’t get counted.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wow. I’m getting so many page tops. Swear it’s not on purpose.

[Nero Cain]

Are u an icon alt?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are u an icon alt?

No, i’m me.
This is my main.

[Elsa Jay]

You shouldn't question Catgirls. They get moody real quick.

The VC showed me still that getting rid of TSE is the best bet still.

[The Fonz]

So this is the post that stood out to me after a skim

Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
Also, do you all honestly think I’m still toxic?

Hey, TSE. Here you imply role information, then do fuck all with it. If you know for a fact, either you have specific info on a single player, or you have some broader "there are x scum in players abc" type knowledge, or you're scum and hinting that you're being bussed like Nero suggests. If you don't, you're completely full of shit.

If you have role info that means town can make a better lynch, then hinting at it rather than outing it means you're already playing badly in an anti town way.

If you're hinting bus, you're scum.

If you're just making it up to try to redirect attention away from you to your Wagoners, then you're being kinda toxic already.

So ten pages in, I'm already left thinking you're either scum, playing really badly, or toxic.

Your Nero vote is pretty bad -even if he's slightly misreading one post, he's showing scumhunting motive. It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.

So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence, then admit that now, and I at least will let it slide. Then tell me something you've noticed about a player NOT on your wagon, and not relating to something they've said about you. Can be anything game relevant. I feel like if you direct your energy at scumhunting on your own wagon, it will continue to come across as defensive and omgussy and look toxic or scummy, making the wagon a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want to help town, look elsewhere, except if you genuinely DO have helpful role info.

This just seems like a massive misrep it's obvious tse means atleast 1 scum on the wagon.

VOTE: The fonz

It's not misrep, he literally said he knew for a fact there were scum on the wagon. Now, obviously he didn't, which i had as the most likely scenario; he was massively overconfident, which is normal for TSE. You are correct that the post wasn't intended to sort TSE; it was intended to reach on to TSE, in a non confrontational manner, to try to get him to stop doing non alignment indicative flailing and OMGUS, and persuade him to play in a manner more conducive to me getting a read on him.

[Wake1]

If voting, please use the exact name or the auto-votecounter won't catch it. Thank you.

[Wake1]

Official Vote Count

1.02

TrueSoulEnergy

(11): NorwegianboyEE, Chemist1422, Nero Cain, Dolly Parton, tictac, Jackal711, Kirari Momobami, Pink Ball, Cat Scratch Fever, profii, Elsa Jay

Garmr

(3): Black Ranger, bob3141, Yiley

Jackal711

(2): AaronFrost, TrueSoulEnergy

bob3141

(1): SausasaurusRex

SausasaurusRex

(1): The Fonz

Kirari Momobami

(1): Drixx

NotAJumbleOfNumbers

(1): insomnia

Hectic

(1): Egix96

Elsa Jay

(1): Almost50

The Fonz

(1): Garmr

gobbledygook

(1): davesaz

Not Voting

(26): Pine, Not Known 15, Jamelia, Uncrowned, hersho, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, DrDolittle, Hectic, Golden Robster, VaultDweller, Amrun, UltimatePlank, clidd, pisskop, QuantumQuasar, dsjstr, EeveeLution Army, BBMolla, kagesong, ar98mubarik, Something_Smart, Rhinox, eth0s, Non Imh, gobbledygook, Emperor FlippyNips

With 50 alive, it takes 26 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-03-22 10:04:00)

[Non lmh]

UNVOTE:
tse is town for me

[Nero Cain]

Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.

I’m willing to bet there’s probably more then 1 scum in here.

these statements are so different though?

If 149 is explained away be being overconfident why did he falter in 162?

Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.

you'd only know this if u were getting bussed so :/

So your actually saying that’s pure town that was on me?

and then I just really hated how he tried to change the narrative here.

Do you still think saying that “I think there’s at least 1 Scum in a shit top wagon”
Is scummy?
Do you think it’s wrong?

and here he's writing off 149 like it didn't exist.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Nero Cain

[kagesong]

ahh, good guy to burn an invest on then.

I'm still catching up and taking notes. But when policy/info lynching was being discussed I thought Hectic sounded good the more he "doesn't post" the more I think it's a decent idea if we go that way.

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Nero Cain

go back to "lurking"

[profii]

I haven't made a personal PT for a while.

I don't think you can have any idea of the gamestate if you don't start one now. I mean, it's a 50 players game FGS. Are you going to try to memories who claimed what and who said something that pinged you on what page??

I'm trying not to put _that_ much time into mafia generally tbh

The claims is easy - when you get that sort of thing wrong, everyone jumps up like "so and so claimed x remember" so basically my plan is to let everyone else do it for me. Ha

In terms of scum pings... I dont think it's ever going to be possible to track 6/6/1 or whatever the setup is all at once so if we are lynching scummy dudes then the game will start to resolve itself over time

Dunno... this is all a bit mad...my plan is to just basically see how it goes

[NorwegianboyEE]

if we are lynching scummy dudes then the game will start to resolve itself over time

This is my school of thought this game.

[Nero Cain]

profi. Its p20 and your still voting your RVS. Wanna talk about it?

[The Fonz]

So ... in a neighborhood with {redacted} but Black Ranger is in there. He did the whole "Look at how super helpful I am being" entrance combined with the "you know there's totally scum in this neighborhood ... you REALIZE that right?" thing. For as long as I've been on this site, and probably before that, those two behaviors in a neighborhood have been super scum indicative.
x.

Yeah, I'm willing to lynch on the basis of this. Kirari pings me a bit. I have no idea why anyone town would ever speculate about who is and isn't a mason, or ask others to do so. And there are Nero-Kirari links; Nero reads like a partner who is trying to draw heat away from Hirari without committing to saying he has a town read. But the "neighbor who points out there might be scum in the hood is herself scum" tell is stronger than any day one associative.

[The Fonz]

VOTE: Black Ranger

[profii]

profi. Its p20 and your still voting your RVS. Wanna talk about it?

Not really. I'm going to bed

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Black Ranger

if you scum read kirari why not join Drixx there?

[kagesong]

but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.

and not gonna lie, I'm still a bit salty.

What do u think of profii?

Go look at the lists KM posted. See if you can spot WHY I pushed them to explain.

At this point their follow up posts trying to dodge explaining are actually far more damning than the problem with the supposed reads.

I've got about 45 minutes till I have to go to work. I'll try and do another pass specifically on profii and see what I see.

Not to mention, wouldn't KM have probably defended this as a reasonless list by now if it means getting lynched as town?

[kagesong]

He claimed a Bodyguard target though. Don't we atleast wanna use that or do we just ignore it?

So you rolled Scum with TSE and tutored him to claim that??

So far I'm also liking the idea of making the use of TSE's claim.

[The Fonz]

VOTE: Black Ranger

if you scum read kirari why not join Drixx there?

Did you read the post above? I scum read Black Ranger much harder than Kirari, where the case is basically links to you and some stuff that's just weird. Kirari is the kind of "Basically slightly better than random lynch I might go for at deadline." I think BR is scum. Why the hell would anyone vote the former over the latter?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

If you scumread TSE, it's not too difficult to see how Kirari came up with the reads she did, and I think her read lists demonstrate that she's been sorting.

Her reads are pretty close to mine.

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I'm town on insomnia, Nero, Kirari, Pink Ball, tictac.

Aside from TSE, I'd be willing to lynch profii, Elsa, Egix, Drixx.

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Hectic can you please be townier so I can claim masons with you?

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UNVOTE:
tse is town for me

What caused you to re-evaluate TSE?

[Nero Cain]

Why the hell would anyone vote the former over the latter?

Drixx did.