Mini Normal 2122 | Endgame

[clidd]

Nero, how would you describe scum!you in a nutshell ?

[chkflip]

The age old "If I was scum" conversation. Always enlightening.

[Bingle]

I had felt like you had gotten fairly good at reading then in CHK's game you were scum reading me early on and I had thought that was weird. perhaps I was thinking of someone else.

Only other games I can remember off the top of my head is Extravaganza where you were scum and I was unsure the whole time and Raybells anything uPick which was a long time ago and I tunneled you. I know we've played other games, but they don't stick out as well in my mind.

I kinda just started assuming you were town in mainstream and it worked pretty well, tbh.

[chkflip]

We don't talk about Mainstream.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

u get banned alot guy

This site doesn’t violate the attacker, they ban the attacked for snapping back.

Don't know about your case, but with me and panthaleon that's certainly true.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

Anyways. It is what it is. So I’ll just keep my mouth shut. I don’t care who we lynch anymore.

Then vote Nero please.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

Guys. Jake has good reads. Imma sheep him for now

What do you think about Kage AtE before leaving ?

FWIW that started in his last game. I believe it's legit. Had a few PMs with him. He has medical issues and can't pay for treatment, his girlfriend who was also the breadwinner just left him. Guy's pretty much a wreck right now. I wish he would have stayed in just to give himself some escape.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

signed up for too many games, won't happen again
replace me out please

Ooh that's a good development.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

Clidd says a lot of words, but doesn't really say anything or push anyone.

[team rocket queen]

so i know dumb tells are lean scum and it's anti-town to speculate on setup on day 1, but, uh, is there some amount of setup information i'm lacking? like how many mafia are in the game, possible roles, etc? and is there some way to gain this information legally without asking in the thread? since everyone else seems to know (or doesn't care?) it doesn't seem to be in any of the mod posts (speaking of which the flavor of this game doesn't seem to make any sense to me unless there is only one mafia or seth is a third party role?)

a lot of day 1 was consumed by the fight between rabid and jake, which seems to be common for jake but not for rabid. at least according to y'all; i haven't yet had the time to read any of their completed games. the aggression from rabid makes sense if rabid has a provable town role and a neighborhood outside of the game thread to discuss any information with since it serves the purpose of helping to determine the alignment of anyone pushed upon as well as helping to determine the alignment of those within the neighborhood. what is strange, though, is rabid's disappearance following the fight with jake, so i guess i'd like to ask nero and bingle if rabid has remained active in the neighborhood thread or if they've gone dark there as well. from jake's perspective, as far as i can tell, a prolonged fight with a provable member of town is expressly anti-town, but if this is a pattern (getting banned from a mafia forum is loose) it's likely ego and NAI. the fight pulled attention from rabid's push onto chemist (4 of chemist's 9 posts are direct responses to rabid, 1 is a hello, 1 is a naked vote of luna [assumed to be retaliation for luna's vote], 1 is a question posed to rabid about how important it is to clear yourself [which doesn't really make sense given that rabid said they could prove they were town], 1 is the retraction of said naked vote, and 1 [posted two days after the rest] is a gut read of not mafia)

really dislike OGI so i'm willing to nullify all of kage's posts. the only posts from bingle which stuck out to me were the discussion of not mafia's role with chidd which seemed, uh, anti-town at best? what possible benefit does that have from either of their perspectives? chidd's push on not mafia is frustrating in general since not mafia's posts show clear game solving when there are more than a handful of more or less non-participants (including seeming widely townread garmr)

Fake/Chemist/?

^^^ this posted at a time when jake was diffusing rabid push and taking the game away from any sort of productivity seems especially notable.

a few other quick notes:

i'm not convinced the bob slot could pass a turing test. feels like they reverse engineered the 20 questions bot and let it loose in a mafia forum so it out here posting aimless questions which have largely gone unanswered

i liked chkflip voting non for three naked votes and no other content but it consumes too much of their iso.

the arguments in favor of lynching within the neighborhood seem to be 1/3 to hit, if we hit we win since one mafia down and two confirmed town, which is much greater than random so definitely plus EV. though, once again, i don't know the possible setups so grain of salt. what does tomorrow look like if we vote within the neighborhood and miss? it seems unlikely a mafia within a closed subset would vote within that subset, but i'd like to hear more from rabid as to why they're voting nero or if this is just a gambit planned within their neighborhood.

VOTE: nero

[team rocket queen]

VOTE: VOTE: nero

[team rocket queen]

VOTE: nero

sorry

[Rabid Schnauzer]

so i know dumb tells are lean scum and it's anti-town to speculate on setup on day 1, but, uh, is there some amount of setup information i'm lacking? like how many mafia are in the game, possible roles, etc? and is there some way to gain this information legally without asking in the thread? since everyone else seems to know (or doesn't care?) it doesn't seem to be in any of the mod posts (speaking of which the flavor of this game doesn't seem to make any sense to me unless there is only one mafia or seth is a third party role?)

There's no setup information given other than it's a normal and so must follow the normal guidelines:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
Note that those explicitly normal roles aren't the only possible roles in the game. There are other roles which qualify as normal if used in certain ways.

We don't know how many scum, but the vast majority of 1 player games are 10:3 (10 town, 3 scum). Since it's a mini normal we know there's exactly one scum faction. Third parties like SKs aren't allowed in mini normals.

a lot of day 1 was consumed by the fight between rabid and jake, which seems to be common for jake but not for rabid. at least according to y'all; i haven't yet had the time to read any of their completed games. the aggression from rabid makes sense if rabid has a provable town role and a neighborhood outside of the game thread to discuss any information with since it serves the purpose of helping to determine the alignment of anyone pushed upon as well as helping to determine the alignment of those within the neighborhood. what is strange, though, is rabid's disappearance following the fight with jake,

D1 aggression isn't abnormal for me as town. Unfortunately, I frequently become the center of attention and scum hide behind that. Plus in this case, I know jake will go on forever. So, once I town read jake, I backed off to observe others. Also just depends how busy I am at work.

VOTE: nero

You need to put that in bold or vote tags. p-edit: nm

[Robbnva]

Anyway it’s pointless to talk about. Have to focus on the game. I’m waiting for bingle to do something but I’m still waiting.

Is the premise that I haven’t done anything AI? Cause that would be a load of crap.

I disagree obviously.

[Robbnva]

Robb what are your not me reads?

What does that mean?

[Robbnva]

Anyways. It is what it is. So I’ll just keep my mouth shut. I don’t care who we lynch anymore.

Then vote Nero please.

I’ll vote whoever reaches 4 or more.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

VOTE: clidd

[Bingle]

What does that mean?

Presumably you have some kind of read on a single player not named Bingle. I'd like to hear about one at least. More if possible.

[Robbnva]

What does that mean?

Presumably you have some kind of read on a single player not named Bingle. I'd like to hear about one at least. More if possible.

Current scum reads are your slot and rabid. For reasons explained. That’s the only reads I have.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: clidd

Why the switch?

[Robbnva]

What does that mean?

Presumably you have some kind of read on a single player not named Bingle. I'd like to hear about one at least. More if possible.

What do you think you’ve done that’s AI?

[Rabid Schnauzer]

VOTE: clidd

Why the switch?

Clidd's posting, and developments in the hood.

[Bingle]

VOTE: trq

534 is god tier levels of gross. She shades like half the thread while avoiding making any real points about any of them, then sheeps a case she doesn't understand from one of the players she is shading onto a player she doesn't otherwise mention to put pressure behind a wagon that isn't the largest option.

[Bingle]

My slot has done the most in the neighborhood I think. It's very quiet, which is completely fine with me.

[Robbnva]

My slot has done the most in the neighborhood I think. It's very quiet, which is completely fine with me.

To quote Shania Twain. That don’t impress me much