@bob are you gonna redact this statement or finally prove it? Because i'm saying straight to your face that this is a lie.In post 3248, bob3141 wrote:If you were tracker/follower. Then you woudl ahve know that datisi visited menal. But all you ever did was said equivalent of "oh yes your right datisi"
It's not looker's claim that makes him town.In post 3449, bji wrote:Looker's claim if false would throw off town's evaluation of scum power. Just something to keep in mind as we all delve further into setup spec discussion that Slaxx did not want us to do (but I personally have no problem with).
It feels like Ico may need to ask for some clarification from the mod then ... Ico gave me the impression that the results she got on Menalque might have indicated that It was roleblocked. Clarification on whether or not the wording of the results could indicate that is, I think, kind of pivotal here.In post 3339, MathBlade wrote:Some moderators return no result when the Tracker's target does not go anywhere at Night; this is indistinguishable from the message that would be received if the Tracker was Roleblocked. However, this is not Normal and tends to be seen in role madness games as a means of introducing more confusion.
The Tracker has very few variants; however, there are many related Roles:
The Tracker learns who a player targeted, but not what action that player performed.
The Follower learns what action a player performed, but not who that player targeted.
The Watcher learns who targeted a player, but not what actions were performed on them.
The Voyeur learns what actions were performed on a player, but not who targeted them.
The Motion Detector learns if any actions were performed by or on a player, but not what they were, or who else was involved.
^^ From the wiki
Yes. The wording was clearly ambiguous!In post 3456, Iconeum wrote:the important part is the 'it looks like' (is paraphrase) as opposed to 'your target didn't go anywhere' that makes me unsure of what actually happened
is that clear enough?
I feel like this is the thought that sent MathBlade down the path of creating a large and convoluted theory of scum!Ico. I would really like to understand the above statement better. At this point you knew nothing of the details of Ico's claim, presumably, given the catching up you appear to have been doing. So this statement must have been made without knowing who you would end up having to suspect as a result. Can you please explain what led you to state the above?In post 3329, MathBlade wrote:Btw Dat being killed means likely scum in a PR claim.
My problem with this is that we don't know that Ico was interfered with N3. Also we don't know that scum doesn't have an interfering role either, which could then explain Ico being blocked if that is what happened.In post 3348, MathBlade wrote:You’d have to argue that if Ico town that Dat would be killed for their reads being better than a full cop and given Dat would have to roleblock Ico then you get Ico town and scum which is a contradiction.
Datisi did not claim until D3. So we do not have verifiable proof that scum shoot a cop over a roleblocker.In post 3349, MathBlade wrote:Keep in mind iirc Dat claimed on D2 roleblocker so we have verifiable proof that scum shoot a cop over a roleblocker.
You've been proven wrong but you still want to make the point so you shift your reason from "Datisi claimed D2" to "Datisi heavily implied his role D2". I don't see any obvious crumbing in the posts you quote as crumbs. I didn't read Datisi as roleblocker after D2 myself, but of course that doesn't mean no one else did. But I certainly do not think it was obvious. I don't recall anyone even implying it.In post 3352, MathBlade wrote:Yeah it looks like your summary is off. Dat if didn’t outright claim D2 heavily implied it.
So scum shoot invest over RB. Can’t come back and say that they shoot RB over invest unless Dat’s reads are right which still makes Ico scum.
Can you please explain this, I cannot parse it.In post 3354, MathBlade wrote:That’s actually pretty balanced if Tracker/Follower could be goon and last line strongman.
His list also included "Mafia (whatever beat Slaxx N2 rolestop)". Whatever beat Slaxx N2 rolestop could also beat Ico's tracker/follower couldn't it?In post 3356, MathBlade wrote:1) Nothing in your list let’s them stop Ico. Your premise of “can interfere with the cop” is flawed. How would they?
The "Normal Game" wiki page lists combined as a normal modifier.In post 3363, MathBlade wrote:Combined also isn’t on the wiki as a modifier I checked
It's a very long shot but ok, maybe I could have figured out datisi was the roleblocker.In post 3354, MathBlade wrote:That’s actually pretty balanced if Tracker/Follower could be goon and last line strongman. Ico if scum could be anything as he always “backed up” other claims. If your summary is accurate. There’s no reason to believe Ico is truthful.
I'm not particularly confident on Bob. Just more confident than on anyone else.In post 3427, Looker wrote:Who are you confident on? Is it just bob?
Check my history if you want. I have never played in any game with such a role and I'm pretty sure such a role has never even been mentioned in any game I have played in.In post 3427, Looker wrote:In post 3312, bji wrote:
What does 'joat' mean? I searched google and found nothing.
You've been playing since 2014 and you've not come into contact with this term?
How much theater do I have to read?
You keep referring to this. Aren't you the player who also said earlier that scum wouldn't try to rub people the wrong way? Should I be accusing you of theatre now?In post 3427, Looker wrote:Post 1234 don't seem so bad now, huh
MathBlade did replace Sky, but you clearly haven't even read anything Math said and don't care? Is the Sky slot that completely townfirmed for you? If so, why? It's hard to believe that it's all because of UP.In post 3431, Menalque wrote:Idk where we’re up to, I can see that math has repped in, I still think that the game is solved with icon, math(if he’s replaced sky), and looker all locktown and that means scum is exactly 2/3 of (bji, bob, micc)
Why are you so willing to lose the game rather than be faced with having to catch scum!Looker?In post 3434, Menalque wrote:Like the only person who I’m not pretty much sure is town in that 3 is looker but he’s been offbeat enough that I think he’s town. If he is scum then I think we just take the L
I think you are town.
