In this post, K7 ignores vast quantities of an attack to pick on one weaker point.k7 wrote: yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.
his first "point" is utter bs, no need to pick on the rest of his corny logic.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:In this post, K7 ignores vast quantities of an attack to pick on one weaker point.k7 wrote: yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.
Faerie what was this referring to/why did you say it?FaerieLord wrote:I'm not going to call you out on it. I was going to do it pretty soon myself. Now, onto better things
my buddy, who I've been voting for for a good deal of this day, and find almsot as suspicious as you? Riiiiight.killa seven wrote:koc attacking me for lurking while his buddy FL is layin low going unnoticed is severly noted.
You're calling one point of my PBPA so far "weak", and completely ignoring the rest. *head-desk* Worst. Selective quoting. EVER. You then try to put me and FaerieLord forward as a scum pair, despite the fact we've been at each other's throats for ever since the lynch... and you accuse ME of reaching?Killa seven wrote: Kotc wrote..
First minor contradiction here. First he said "Gimbo is always like this". Now, I'm willing to bet most of hte games you've played with him, he wasn't scum.
Now you're basically trying to pressure him into leading hte town to the Godfather. Huh?
^^^^
yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.
Firestarter wrote:1. You call it fence sitting, I call it weighing up what’s put in front of me.
What you call it does not change what it is
2. I did not refuse to vote, I said I would not be pressurised into voting, not when I unsure of who.
Very well, I will leave it up to others to see if they think it was fence sitting or analysis
3. What’s your point? You call it a nice attack on CF, then for an unknown reason, say its not good..
All you say is its not good, I cant respond to that... sorry.
Sarcasm is a key concept to understand. I'm not sure what kind of false logic that attack falls under, but my point is it is one.
4. Au contraire, I did vote for Forbidden...
Not immediately, after several posts of waffling.
5. No, read up.
I find this in contradiction with your next statement
6. Your trying to make a point, yet did not back it up... On this occasion, you need to cite posts.
Your posts before where you said fl was a misguided townie
7. That’s a matter of interpretation.
Which of fl's actions were you interpreting as such?
8 . Nor do you.
So, because I say you don't have to have a read on someone attacking you, because I have one on you that is a contradiction?
9. My point was made to who I was addressing, you have the issue, so its up to you to make the point, not me.
When I ask you to clarify your point, your response should not be NO U!
10. You have not showed anything to be untrue. If you want to counter something in my posts, then do it with rationale, and reasoning.
Please show me where fl said you were twisting that statement.
11. You failed to respond to my request for you to prove that my alternatives are "false"...
I did. The odds of a random player being scum are NOT 50/50, end of story.
12. It did suck, and still does.
In your manners, please prove why it sucks.
13. Noted?? WTF....
It means I am pointing out you did it
14. Any questions that gather info are not menial, especially when only 1 player is scum hunting.
When they shift suspicion onto someone for an insignificant action they are menial
15. Its not impossible... You can link parts of your concise post back to other posts. A concise post, for me, is one the length of which I’m responding to, or the one I previously responded in.
Ok.....
16. We are guaranteed that Scum will agree, but half the game... I don’t think so. Your attack on me is wishy washy, period.
The joke is half the game lynched fl, there by finding her responses inadequate. Scum won't necessarily agree even. And MY attack is wishy washy? I voted for you at the start of D2, noted suspicion, built the case, and am arguing it. You seem to flip flop on my alignment every other post
17. Chaos??? I didn't see that, I seen votes being placed on Forbidden afterwards, and those who already placed them, not removing them.. Pretty chaotic, eh?
Just because it didn't happen in this case because no one listened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen often. When one strong proponent of a lynch hops of the wagon all of the sudden they often falter and cause random other wagons that lead to sub par lynches
18. You call it waffling, but don’t point to anything. Nothing to be responded to here.
I point to the fact that you keep going "fl could be town, but this is all scummy" or visa versa.
19. *Token post... I’m not going to go into this, its a completely separate convo, it would take way too much time, and quite frankly I’ve better things to do here.
No, please, I have time to listen
20. Your "take" is noted.
What is your take on fl's actions then? Also the contradiction with your previous attack of my "noted" is noted
21. I posted in relation to your PBPA, before & after, you choose to ignore those posts.
I believe I have responded to all your posts after my PBPA. If I haven't, please point them out]/b]
22. Again, with what Gimbo posted, I thought an alternative action may have been better.
Please clarify what you mean here
23. That works 50/50, for both scum & town.....
Then why are you trying to pin it as a scum tell on me if it is in fact a null tell?
armlx wrote:Firestarter wrote:1. You call it fence sitting, I call it weighing up what’s put in front of me.
What you call it does not change what it is
This is interpretation, your interpretation.
2. I did not refuse to vote, I said I would not be pressurised into voting, not when I unsure of who.
Very well, I will leave it up to others to see if they think it was fence sitting or analysis
3. What’s your point? You call it a nice attack on CF, then for an unknown reason, say its not good..
All you say is its not good, I cant respond to that... sorry.
Sarcasm is a key concept to understand. I'm not sure what kind of false logic that attack falls under, but my point is it is one.
...???
4. Au contraire, I did vote for Forbidden...
Not immediately, after several posts of waffling.
After a lot of questioning, again it falls under interpretation... your interpretation.
5. No, read up.
I find this in contradiction with your next statement
Of course you do...
6. Your trying to make a point, yet did not back it up... On this occasion, you need to cite posts.
Your posts before where you said fl was a misguided townie
Like when you asked me to go look for your PBPA on me, the same applied to your earlier question.
Not a contradiction at all, just asking of you, the same you asked of me.
7. That’s a matter of interpretation.
Which of fl's actions were you interpreting as such?
In response to the "180" I did with FL, I got a town read from her after my initial questioning & pressurising her.
This I’ve made clear numerous times, over & over again.
8 . Nor do you.
So, because I say you don't have to have a read on someone attacking you, because I have one on you that is a contradiction?
Not necessarily, but I know you have a wrong read at present.
9. My point was made to who I was addressing, you have the issue, so its up to you to make the point, not me.
When I ask you to clarify your point, your response should not be NO U!
You did not make a point worth addressing, but if you would like to make any previous point clearer here, Ill answer it.
10. You have not showed anything to be untrue. If you want to counter something in my posts, then do it with rationale, and reasoning.
Please show me where fl said you were twisting that statement.
Which statement?
11. You failed to respond to my request for you to prove that my alternatives are "false"...
I did. The odds of a random player being scum are NOT 50/50, end of story.
You are avoiding my question here... You have not unproven what I said, you are trying to disprove what you think I said.
The odds of someone, random or not, after a statement is made in the random stage is 50/50 of being what the OP says, and this coming after a play that the majority of players found to be scummy, including you.
Would you have me and the rest believe, now, well after Forbiddens lynch and after you also voted for her, that you believed she wasn't scum? Because I don’t understand where your going with this point.. Its reaching, big time.
12. It did suck, and still does.
In your manners, please prove why it sucks.
Because of the alleged "deflection".. I was responding to several in the same post.
13. Noted?? WTF....
It means I am pointing out you did it
Of course you are...
14. Any questions that gather info are not menial, especially when only 1 player is scum hunting.
When they shift suspicion onto someone for an insignificant action they are menial
So you consider it ok for one player to scum hunt, then vote that person as they see them scummy at one point, then anyone else who adds their vote afterwards are OK? Including you?
That insignificant action, as you put it, drew your vote to boot..
The fact I was the one attacking Forbidden at the time, makes it very easy for you to point this out..
It would be quite different if I were, say, to do what you and others did, and that was weigh in with a post with nothing else of notable content in that said post. Again, your attacking me for scum hunting...
15. Its not impossible... You can link parts of your concise post back to other posts. A concise post, for me, is one the length of which I’m responding to, or the one I previously responded in.
Ok.....
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16. We are guaranteed that Scum will agree, but half the game... I don’t think so. Your attack on me is wishy washy, period.
The joke is half the game lynched fl, there by finding her responses inadequate. Scum won't necessarily agree even. And MY attack is wishy washy? I voted for you at the start of D2, noted suspicion, built the case, and am arguing it. You seem to flip flop on my alignment every other post
Incorrect... I wanted pressure on you, so I applied it. The fact you’ve come out so strongly since, has been town like in my eyes.
Where have I flip-flopped. This is inaccurate.
17. Chaos??? I didn't see that, I seen votes being placed on Forbidden afterwards, and those who already placed them, not removing them.. Pretty chaotic, eh?
Just because it didn't happen in this case because no one listened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen often. When one strong proponent of a lynch hops of the wagon all of the sudden they often falter and cause random other wagons that lead to sub par lynches
Ok, so now your saying it didn't happen.. Why state it did then?
And, Ill repeat this just for you, because your conveniently ignoring facts here..
I did not suddenly jump of the wagon, it was 3days before Forbidden was lynched, I even asked for the rest to consider Forbiddens lynch as being a mislynch... Nobody took notice. Nobody removed their votes.
And Gimbo stupidly hammered.
I outlined a post just for before you made your first PBPA of me, I suggest you go back, read it, and then try to tell me I hopped of the wagon suddenly, or indeed, just before Forbidden lynch.
This, again, is inaccurate.
18. You call it waffling, but don’t point to anything. Nothing to be responded to here.
I point to the fact that you keep going "fl could be town, but this is all scummy" or visa versa.
Now your attacking me for posting what my thoughts were.. OK.
19. *Token post... I’m not going to go into this, its a completely separate convo, it would take way too much time, and quite frankly I’ve better things to do here.
No, please, I have time to listen
Irrelevant at this point.
20. Your "take" is noted.
What is your take on fl's actions then? Also the contradiction with your previous attack of my "noted" is noted
My take is outlined in the various posts before my attack, during my attack, during my transgression, and after Forbiddens lynch. I like to post my thoughts during all of these actions.
21. I posted in relation to your PBPA, before & after, you choose to ignore those posts.
I believe I have responded to all your posts after my PBPA. If I haven't, please point them out
What questions remain after I’m finished responding here will suffice.
22. Again, with what Gimbo posted, I thought an alternative action may have been better.
Please clarify what you mean here
In the post out of thread, Gimbo made another post directed at Forbidden in a game I was also in.
The post read.. "Sorry for lynching you *smiley, etc, etc."
But the mod of this game, was a player in that other game, and posted immediately afterwards, stating Gimbo was to be replaced. I thought that if Gimbo was town, he would not have had to replaced, maybe warned. But the fact he was replaced immediately gave me the distinct impression that Gimbo was scum.
In that case, I thought it would have been wiser for the Mod to modkill Gimbo, rather than have a replacement come in.
I was also on the verge of asking the MOd to be replaced at one point, because I thought that the info I posted in the end, would have spoiled the game, as I believed that what Gimbo posted, harmed elements of this thread, and ultimately the game.
23. That works 50/50, for both scum & town.....
Then why are you trying to pin it as a scum tell on me if it is in fact a null tell?
Its a direct contradiction with what you have done most of D1.. and thats lurk, post here & there.
To me, that is a scum tell, as opposed to someone scum hunting and posting their thoughts on a regular basis.
Talking about the game was clearly stated as getting you the boot. It was early enough that he was replaced instead. This would have happened regardless of alignment. Using this to judge Gimbo either way is very, very faulty.But the mod of this game, was a player in that other game, and posted immediately afterwards, stating Gimbo was to be replaced. I thought that if Gimbo was town, he would not have had to replaced, maybe warned. But the fact he was replaced immediately gave me the distinct impression that Gimbo was scum.
This is his return from a 7 day lurk. Most people post something decent when they get prodded. Not Killa, the quintessential lurk-scum. His next post:Hi. im here need to catch up losts of huge posts
Attempts to dismiss the case, then offers to OMGUS-PBPA TSN for voting him.are we still on this?TheSweatpantsNinja wrote: Killa seven. Hence the vote. Forbiddanlight's trap was foolish, because those kind of "traps" almost always backfire, but I think k7's jump on that wagon was scummy nonetheless.
im going to look into your posts.
Hello, Pot? Hi, this is Kettle. YOU'RE BLACK.No. id just like to read into him, he seems to just want to fall on yesterdays argument, kinda slidin through the game in the open.
This is Killa seven country! We don't do evidence, or indeed anything other than one-liners here! I mean, seriously. He's not just murdering townies, he's murdering the English language.yea i just read your posts, all uve said is ive done something unordinary scummy as opposed to usual, then next post days later vote me with no explanation and call them instincts.
Yes, you did. Oh, wait, you didn't. You actually said "Don't vote yourself, and hunt scum, thanks". This is another implication that you don't believe Forbiddan to be scum, but are voting her anyway. Just like in Post 13 (AFAIK). Icky.fire. why u askin me for a response when i explained why i voted when i did and talked about theat whole situation when it happened. what do you want to explain i had cramps that day or something?
Empty post make town unhappy. Empty post stink of anti-townness, and inability to respond to points levelled at you.*face palm*
It's only scummy because you completely misinterpreted it. Spyrex basically summed it up nicely. Try reading his post - that's what I meant. Deliberately mis-interpreting it like that isn't helpful.^ that statement was scummy in itself.
lets lynch killa if hes scum ill listen to whatever u have to say? wtf?
and what makes u think me and coron would be partners because we both have lurked? yea buddy great analysis.
PLEASE! Stop looking at me! Um... quick, who has KoC been linked with? Umm... FaerieLord, can't remember how though... *points finger* THEM TWO!koc attacking me for lurking while his buddy FL is layin low going unnoticed is severly noted.
Crap, that is scummy... quick, pass it off as a joke! And swear, because that's fucking manly,and will make me look town by getting so angry!yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.
Why don't you? or can you just not answer any of the points I'm making?TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:In this post, K7 ignores vast quantities of an attack to pick on one weaker point.k7 wrote: yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.
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his first "point" is utter bs, no need to pick on the rest of his corny logic.
Manito wrote:Maybe if you weren't so busy pointing fingers, you would have read Post 579.LlamaFluff wrote: My 576 still hasnt even been answered, and Manito has again disappeared since he isnt being challenged. Lets see if some votes cause him to reappear
Well while I do repect your hardship, you still do drop off the map it seems when not pressured to act. This also really doesnt answer my questions, just created a reason not to answer them for the time being. Given recent developments, it is apparent no one will listen to me and lynch Corin, KoC looks a little more townish, so that leaves you as my push for the day. Sorry if that pisses you off, but its true.Manito wrote:Sorry that I haven't had the time to read. Have a lot going on personally that I'd rather not get into here, but since I'm being attacked for not posting reads on the remaining players, I guess I'll have to.
I'm engaged, and currently going through some rough times with my fiancee. I think that is sufficient information to suffice it to say that I could give a fuckaroo about posting my remaining reads here when I have much more important stuff to deal with. If you want the reads, have some patience. Otherwise, back off, please.
I love you too snookums. You know what though? People seem to not be willing to take me 100% seriously in this game for some reason, im not sure if because I replaced but no one is listening to what I say. They just argue without giving me a "I agree" or "youre wrong". What does that leave me at? The ability to vote to get someones attention, its like firing a gun into the air to get people to look at you. Untill I voted KoC, he ignored everything I said against him. Untill I voted you, I never heard anything about my case. So you know what? If voting to pressure people is the only way people will listen to me, then guess what? I am going to pressure vote. Honestly though, what do I need to do to get you to respond to my case against you? I have presented it, voted you, unvoted you, asked you, had you proded, I mean seriously dude!Corin wrote:God I hate you, Llama.
Me, Manito, and KoC have all gotten votes from you based on the idiotic idea that it's all right to vote for someone to pressure them into responding to you.
I refuse to respond to that kind of bullshit.
Any chance of that "Little bit more of K7" gonna happen..... anytime soon...killa seven wrote:KOC, just beacuase you and FL have been arguing and voting eachother doesnt mean you arent buddies, ive seen scum attack eachother when pressure gets on one scum member, then they quickly hop off and pursue someone else furiously then later say hey we possibly cant be buddies look how we been arguing.
KoC wrote:I can tell you now, I'm town.