BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Xtoxm]

no, its a mixture of both.
i have you in poe. #323 pinged me and you have not towned your slot.

i am not one for effective methods.

[Venus and Mars]

I’ve also tried numerous times to make up for that game I hydra flaked on you - which had zilch do do with you and everything to do with the role we got - and it hasn’t happened yet but I won’t keep begging you to give me another chance if you’re not interested,

@Xtoxm

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

[Venus and Mars]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

This post? That is how I saw it att but based on everything you’ve been saying - are continuing to say, none of this is scummy and I’m just wrong town based on my meta at incorrectly reading you, so my obvious question again. is why are you sr us for this?

[Xtoxm]

the incorrect statement about my approach to mech IS scummy.
sr me in and of itself is not scummy.

thats not what i said.

[Venus and Mars]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

[Kakeguri Addicts]

Yumeko are you townreading me or am I just not a current lynch option?

-K

I thought Krazy was in your hydra and signing as K, but on second glance that does not appear to be the case. It's the second one, I don't have a strong enough opinion to townread you but I don't feel like you would make a good lynch.

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-Yumeko

[Xtoxm]

my point is, i will not allow your history of scumreading me as town to be an effective cover for you as scum.
which it is if dont take a stand at some point.
whether this is the game you pulled scum in or not.

[Venus and Mars]

the incorrect statement about my approach to mech IS scummy.
sr me in and of itself is not scummy.

thats not what i said.

It’s not scummy based on how I remembered your play. It doesn’t make me correct but it 100% was an honest thought and you don’t know my play very well, if you honestly think otherwise.

[Venus and Mars]

Yumeko are you townreading me or am I just not a current lynch option?

-K

I thought Krazy was in your hydra and signing as K, but on second glance that does not appear to be the case. It's the second one, I don't have a strong enough opinion to townread you but I don't feel like you would make a good lynch.

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-Yumeko

What? Of course Krazy is in that hydra.

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

great. look forward to it.

[Venus and Mars]

my point is, i will not allow your history of scumreading me as town to be an effective cover for you as scum.
which it is if dont take a stand at some point.
whether this is the game you pulled scum in or not.

It isn’t and this reads like a really bad reason for voting us. I almost unvoted you before this post but I really really hate this post.

[Xtoxm]

Spoiler:

Subject: Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

Your scumread on Xtoxm seems to be based on him being opposed to lynching Keys, who you scumread, correct?

Incorrect. That has nothing to do with why I'm suspicious of Xtom. Xtom's read on Nauci, as well as his reads on otthers throughout the game, are suspect. His mechanical analysis isn't.

But since I’m mind melding with him on not wanting to lynch him today, for pretty much the exact same reasons. I obviously can’t see that as scummy, irrespective of Key’s actual alignment.

That's fine. I don't see why agreeing with him about something mechanical makes him a townread. Scum usually don't have trouble faking mechanical analysis. It's easy to talk about setup/mechanics as scum because it doesn't matter if you're informed/uninformed, the analysis is the same. When it comes to behaviors, scum run into trouble because they're already informed about alignments in ways that make it difficult for them to analyze behaviors without already knowing that the behaviors come from a particular alignment. Xtom has been avoiding behavioral analysis in favor of mechanical speculations.

And tbf, I was right on NM. I townread him, so like I said to Varsoon right at the beginning of the game - I’m always going to put a hard townread over anyone else’s opinion - even yours.

That's fine. You were right about NM, so I'm seeking your insight into Xtom. I'd like to know why he's town. I'm still waiting for you to explain the townread.

i dont see how you can play that game and others with me and not come to the conclusion that im a mech focused player

[Venus and Mars]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

great. look forward to it.

+1

[Xtoxm]

im voting for you because you're voting for me and tunneling me
call it a bad reason if you want
i dont actually care which of the non towny slots die
d1 isnt that interesting to me

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

Subject: Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

Your scumread on Xtoxm seems to be based on him being opposed to lynching Keys, who you scumread, correct?

Incorrect. That has nothing to do with why I'm suspicious of Xtom. Xtom's read on Nauci, as well as his reads on otthers throughout the game, are suspect. His mechanical analysis isn't.

But since I’m mind melding with him on not wanting to lynch him today, for pretty much the exact same reasons. I obviously can’t see that as scummy, irrespective of Key’s actual alignment.

That's fine. I don't see why agreeing with him about something mechanical makes him a townread. Scum usually don't have trouble faking mechanical analysis. It's easy to talk about setup/mechanics as scum because it doesn't matter if you're informed/uninformed, the analysis is the same. When it comes to behaviors, scum run into trouble because they're already informed about alignments in ways that make it difficult for them to analyze behaviors without already knowing that the behaviors come from a particular alignment. Xtom has been avoiding behavioral analysis in favor of mechanical speculations.

And tbf, I was right on NM. I townread him, so like I said to Varsoon right at the beginning of the game - I’m always going to put a hard townread over anyone else’s opinion - even yours.

That's fine. You were right about NM, so I'm seeking your insight into Xtom. I'd like to know why he's town. I'm still waiting for you to explain the townread.

i dont see how you can play that game and others with me and not come to the conclusion that im a mech focused player

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game. I never thought that in either SC1 or ND. I think we’re at an impasse here, since we both view each other’s votes on us as scummy, so that isn’t going to bring clarity. I think that’s overwhelmingly obvious.

[Xtoxm]

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game.

i was literally accused of that by scum in SC1
do you still think im hiding behind mech in this game? i feel like i have plenty of non mech content now?

[Venus and Mars]

im voting for you because you're voting for me and tunneling me
call it a bad reason if you want
i dont actually care which of the non towny slots die
d1 isnt that interesting to me

I’m not one of those “non-towny slots”, which I can’t seem to get you to grasp. You’re voting for me in THIS game, based on the hypothetical game, where I roll scum and presumably tunnel you, isn’t reality in THIS game. How tf would future scum!me even have a goddamned clue how I would even interact with your slot until it literally happens?

[Xtoxm]

you. are. not. a. town. read.

[Venus and Mars]

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game.

i was literally accused of that by scum in SC1
do you still think im hiding behind mech in this game? i feel like i have plenty of non mech content now?

No but I still think your reasoning for voting me is bad, so sorry if you’re actually town but I honestly don’t know how to get past that.

[Venus and Mars]

you. are. not. a. town. read.

And we have what seems like a deadlock. I think I’m obvtown here and you don’t, so I don’t think this conversation is helping.

[Xtoxm]

yes.
i also think im obvtown by my standards, but im also aware that people find me hard to read.

[chkflip]

KA and Xoxgoxbigox are town.

[Venus and Mars]

my not-d1 pool:
Titus
Davesaz
Krazy Katz
Auro
nomnomnom
Jjh927
Chronos

not group scum:
Vecna - however dave mentioned the virus sounds like a 3p win con and boon does like to create new 3p roles so if we think this is possible he should probably be lynched today i guess

leaving a d1-poe:
Venus and Mars
The Fonz
Chkflip
Conspire
Kakeguri Addicts
George Bailey
BooneyToonzExpert

meh

Looking at this list, I think there must be at least one wrong in your not D1 lynch pool but damn if I have a freaking clue who that would be, because it would mean the entire scumteam is in your PoE and that seems unlikely?

That’s why I almost alway prefer to townblock on D1 but other than us, I agree with the majority of your not D1 lynch pile.