BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Vecna]

everyone is Multitasking.

clutch edit

so this is multiball?

-K

Isnt multitasking simply that people can submit multiple actions per night?

[Vecna]

might be a crapshoot

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

First impression of this little interaction is that it puts all the hairs on my back up straight.

SvS probability estimate in the mirrions

[Vecna]

Vote: chkflip

let's be honest, I can't think of anyone more likely to send in scum leaning picks to a Boon game.

VOTE: The Fonz

OMGUS! <3

Reminder for self as well for the cocky SvS alternative

[Vecna]

Harclaim Miller -- please note this if you have 'desperate' or 'weak' in your role!

There's two separate things related to that claim that I might be inclined to mention today, one of which involves a curse but I'll wait for a little bit to expand

-Krazy

So you chose a scum ability but ended up with a massive negative utility role
I don't know if I actually believe that

Not to angle-shoot boon but I feel like if he writes everything as though it could be multiball and hasn't confirmed it's not multiball it's probably multiball

Although for some reason I thought he didn't super like multiball but depends what people submitted I guess

-K

I think only scums would care about this game being multiball
I'm smelling scumbutt here

Further awkward posting from this slot. Scum would already -KNOW- if it was multiball due to their teamsize. And why would they make it so obvious in public that they have reasons to think so?

[Vecna]

lol are you actually scum
my gut tells me you're the type to hard hint at getting a cop role not a scum ability lol
I might be wrong and maybe you're more lolrandom that I thought you were
I'm cackling right now this is fun

Hmmmm. Pretty good diarhea flow of mind weird posting.

Reasons to question initial impression? maybe

[Vecna]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Lets bury this awkward entrance (also lol @ JJH for saying entrances arent AI)

[Vecna]

Who was it that claimed miller again? I have some minor reasons to be suspicious about that based on my role pm.

Now I wanna talk about my role pm. Its hilarious how anti-town my role is. Like, if I wasnt so (wrongfully) full of myself id probably advise you all to lynch me day1.

[Vecna]

Harclaim Miller -- please note this if you have 'desperate' or 'weak' in your role!

There's two separate things related to that claim that I might be inclined to mention today, one of which involves a curse but I'll wait for a little bit to expand

-Krazy

Yeah, yeaaaah

Pops loves claiming miller though

Does boon love to mix shit? Like, is this game likely to combine all of those modifiers that KK claims to be relevant, on top of the loyal/disloyal shit?

[Vecna]

Reading into thought processes really is a thing people do.

Faking both your tone and a genuine town thought process is something very few scum can consistently do

[Vecna]

Like, im 85% sure both Nomnom and JJH are town here. Im not sure if JJH is correct about crazy cats, but his reasoning for being suspicious about nomnom and then switching after poking at it for a bit and evaluating the reactions as town is the exact same development I had to it.

[Vecna]

Lets bury this awkward entrance (also lol @ JJH for saying entrances arent AI)

Do you have experience with Xtoxm?

I dno man, these games filled with alts and hydras are just tiresome

[Vecna]

Awkward entrances can be SvS or just an indication that someone puts their nasty little tentacles on someone else, no?

The awkwardness can be caused because two people try to do a thing (although nomnom didnt do anything and never even responded), or just because one of the people cause the awkward because they cant do genuineness as scum very well.

Lets see, im fully predicting XoXowhatever to be very quiet this game and throw out the rare low-impact statement.

(now we probably impacted that path though)

[Vecna]

hmmm im actually only now noticing that post voted krazy and not nomnom

wtf brain

[Vecna]

@JJH odds of everyone posting on page5 being town?

[Vecna]

@Vecna: My unexplained vote on you got no reaction from you - did you just not notice it?

I noticed it

[Vecna]

if I ask you "what were you doing last night" and you start over-explaining it to the point of talking about your random conversation you had at the pizza shop I will find it suspicious
analogy to what I'm seeing here

nomnom now pretty much conf-town

And yeah, JJH does love to overexplain

[Vecna]

(but the explenation isnt stuff thats intended to sound good and get people to townread him, its just the ramblings of his mad mind)

[Vecna]

@JJH odds of everyone posting on page5 being town?

Actually pretty reasonable

I'm town
You're town
Auro is looking nice and towny
Chronos could go either way considering this is a regular reaction that people have when they play with me for the first time
And then Nom posted after you said it, and Nom is town too even if they are wrong

And this is like, 100% mindmeld, he even pointed at the one person thats not near guaranteed town at the entire page

[Vecna]

Now, the next step to the plan is if these people are just quiet and dont become major influencers.

Let the other section of the playerlist do their thing, without them clenching onto the cool boys and girls club and feed off of them.

[Vecna]

Ugh, EU - USA travelban. Thats really gonna fuck with my June plans

[Vecna]

im still waiting for a mod reply before I decide how I wanna approach this

[Vecna]

Conspire, you think JJH has too many townreads? I find it more likely he's being pocketed but I am a little suspect too though. Can you explain why scum over naive?

I don't know regarding scum or naive; hopefully his response will be of help.

Why do you get the impression he's being pocketed? I haven't seen evidence of that.

-Cosmic

He is completely in my kangaroo pouch already.

Everything is going exactly according to plan.

[Vecna]

goddamn my role is like 17 layers of awesome, and the mod is being all mysterious like it has more to it

[Vecna]

Little hint: Cops, youre pretty much completely useless this game, so just chill and dont feel pressured to carry the weight of the world.

None of that atlas shit

[Vecna]

well, unless you decide to lynch me d1 ofcourse. Which might prevent like, a global pandemic.

But itll make the game a lot more boring.

Yep.

Yep

[Vecna]

Where did y'all go.

Im sitting here being all excited like, and u all abandon me

[Vecna]

Maybe you should make up your mind now Flip, before other people make up their mind and you just appear like a soft little sheep

[Vecna]

Little hint: Cops, youre pretty much completely useless this game, so just chill and dont feel pressured to carry the weight of the world.

None of that atlas shit

would whatever you are also affect modifiers like loyal/disloyal/weak?

It might, but thats seperate from the town negative utility stuff

[Vecna]

Little hint: Cops, youre pretty much completely useless this game, so just chill and dont feel pressured to carry the weight of the world.

None of that atlas shit

would whatever you are also affect modifiers like loyal/disloyal/weak?

Oh wait, I get what you mean now.

The answer is probably -yes- fullstop.

[Vecna]

loosely paraphrased, I target 2 people and they will appear scum alligned for most intents and purposes

Then.....those people will have to target two new people to give the same treatment.

I spread viruses, and the people that get infected will have to spread it further.

Im guessing the easy way around this is to just announce who ill target, and those people will be leashed to target eachother after that

[Vecna]

the only downside to this plan is....closed setup, who knows to what extent it can be abusable by actual scum, yada yada.

yeah.

[Vecna]

mandatory

[Vecna]

bit of a silly question, truely, titus

[Vecna]

permanently, and they have to spread it to new people the next night that will suffer the same fight.

So either looping it by leashing, lynching me d1, or just accept the chaos and let it reign free with all the likely not so good consequences

[Vecna]

Yeah, the mod sort of vaguely alluded like there -might- be more to how it functions (as in, other roles/players interacting with the virus im spreading)

[Vecna]

INTROUDUCING:

0

and

3

Tin-foil hat time: What if these numbers (the first one) refer to the number of people with the virus?

[Vecna]

Anyways, I also have some other more pro-town stuff going on with my role Pm, so id prefer to just play the game instead of getting lynched d1

[Vecna]

coward, get back here and solve this game!

[Vecna]

If he was scum who could "cancerously millerize" town and neuter cops, why even claim it?

Although this is not a great argument, my spreading virus does in fact not tell the infected people what it does. Just that they have to spread it.

[Vecna]

Vecna is your millerizing flavored as cursing?

Its probably a mistake to say this since there might be some role that benefits from knowing it, but its a virus

[Vecna]

Anyways, the two people I chose will get notified they recieved a virus. They can then also confirm theyre not actually informed what it does, and that they have to spread it.

[Vecna]

I dno Booney, would you prefer to have a guaranteed mislynch over just handling it smartly?

Having two extra millers on designated persons aint that big of a deal most likely.

Regardless, this topic is already starting to bore me. If you wanna lynch me, convince people im scum

[Vecna]

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Vecna]

If he was scum who could "cancerously millerize" town and neuter cops, why even claim it?

Although this is not a great argument, my spreading virus does in fact not tell the infected people what it does. Just that they have to spread it.

Sounds a lot like a survivor role. Does your wincon say a you win when a majority has it?

You think id propose a plan to have two people continue to spread it in a circle between them if that was my mission?

[Vecna]

plenty of other things to talk about chronos

[Vecna]

The people you infect only have to target one person with it, not two?

-K

Yes just one

[Vecna]

Thats an odd post Fonz. Youre harping on George for not picking up on anything in the thread, yet he's your only scumread? And you dont see anything elsewhere yourself?

How can he pick up on anything if he's the only one doing anything noteworthy scummy according to you? You want him to scumread himself?

[Vecna]

will be away from this game for a bit more, maybe into monday/tuesday

Hope I didnt miss anything important, sure a lot of activity the last 28 hours or so

[Vecna]

rawr

[Vecna]

Im leading wagon. I probably shouldnt have signed up for this. I dont even feel a desire to fight this stuff

You people should listen to JJH and actually find some scum to lynch.

[Vecna]

ill continue to slack actually. Playing PoE is a lot more fun atm

[Vecna]

it would be interesting to see if all those people claiming their reason to vote me is because of sudden lurking suddenly change their mind if I become active again.

Regardless, my activity in the first few days was more than sufficient to read my allignment. Anyone claiming to vote me because they think im scum is either pretending, or just being ignorant and not evem trying to find scum.

Especially the pops hydra and titus ought to know better.

[Vecna]

anyways im like 30 pages behind. I announced id be away for a while. My cheeky behaviour when checking back in while behind was...meh. No reason to lynch me id say.

[Vecna]

good to see none of my towncore is being swayed by this wagon at least.

Regarding those that claim my role is so disastrous to town......clearly they have not thought it through very well. Either I die tonight and town can claim who got infected. Or I claim it tomorrow myself. Claiming it before hand seems unwise.

Scum getting it and spreading it wont really be a risk. at max two town will get it, and they can keep infecting eachother.

[Vecna]

@BTE: I think he's still town, it's annoying he doesn't want to bother answering any questions towards him but whatever.

What I find problematic is people complaining about having no better slots to push while voting Vecna. Like sure lynch him at deadline if he's still the "least bad" option, what prevents you from scumhunting or forming other wagons elsewhere in the meantime?

“Annoying” really doesn’t begin to cover it. Who says none of the people voting Vecna are scumhunting? I don’t have a confident enough sr, to make anyone else a better vote rn. It’s a lot more that him not just answering questions, it’s his clear refusal to even try to work with town. I’d actually understand this attitude if he was actually trying to work with town, to try to mitigate some of the potential fallout from his role but to have a role that antitown and not have that player being willing to cooperate, is a double whammy.

Also this is a blatant scummy lie. When ive been around ive been extremely willing to work with town. Ive spebt a goddamn large number of posts explaining all this shit and how itll play out.

Being away for a while and posting proddodge type of posts while behind is not *being very unwilling to work with town*.

[Vecna]

it would be interesting to see if all those people claiming their reason to vote me is because of sudden lurking suddenly change their mind if I become active again.

Regardless, my activity in the first few days was more than sufficient to read my allignment. Anyone claiming to vote me because they think im scum is either pretending, or just being ignorant and not evem trying to find scum.

Especially the pops hydra and titus ought to know better.

There is no Pops hydra. Why don’t you start by answering some of the questions posed to you and let us decide that? What did you pick? What did Boon say (and paraphrase please) to make you think your role had “17 degrees of awesome”?

Why the fuck would I tell you this? Ive already stated theres town upside. You dont need to know more. As for these other questions, ill see if i can catch up.

All I need to do is become active a little and this wagon will vanish really really fast.

[Vecna]

good to see none of my towncore is being swayed by this wagon at least.

Regarding those that claim my role is so disastrous to town......clearly they have not thought it through very well. Either I die tonight and town can claim who got infected. Or I claim it tomorrow myself. Claiming it before hand seems unwise.

Scum getting it and spreading it wont really be a risk. at max two town will get it, and they can keep infecting eachother.

It would be better if you claim your targets or at least a very small pool from which you will target

This is fair I guess to prevent town investigatives from wasting their actions. Im thinking of throwing it in my initial townpool.

Ill give a more definite list once i catch up. probably in group shape.

[Vecna]

@BTE: I think he's still town, it's annoying he doesn't want to bother answering any questions towards him but whatever.

What I find problematic is people complaining about having no better slots to push while voting Vecna. Like sure lynch him at deadline if he's still the "least bad" option, what prevents you from scumhunting or forming other wagons elsewhere in the meantime?

“Annoying” really doesn’t begin to cover it. Who says none of the people voting Vecna are scumhunting? I don’t have a confident enough sr, to make anyone else a better vote rn. It’s a lot more that him not just answering questions, it’s his clear refusal to even try to work with town. I’d actually understand this attitude if he was actually trying to work with town, to try to mitigate some of the potential fallout from his role but to have a role that antitown and not have that player being willing to cooperate, is a double whammy.

Also this is a blatant scummy lie. When ive been around ive been extremely willing to work with town. Ive spebt a goddamn large number of posts explaining all this shit and how itll play out.

Being away for a while and posting proddodge type of posts while behind is not *being very unwilling to work with town*.

I’m neither “lying” nor am I scum, I just want you to answer some goddamned questions! If you had actually explained everything as clearly as you believe, there wouldn’t be this much paranoia surrounding your slot.

before i went vla everyone understood just fine and people had actually started complaining about everythibg focussing on mech talk (Which was fair at the time)

[Vecna]

it would be interesting to see if all those people claiming their reason to vote me is because of sudden lurking suddenly change their mind if I become active again.

Regardless, my activity in the first few days was more than sufficient to read my allignment. Anyone claiming to vote me because they think im scum is either pretending, or just being ignorant and not evem trying to find scum.

Especially the pops hydra and titus ought to know better.

There is no Pops hydra. Why don’t you start by answering some of the questions posed to you and let us decide that? What did you pick? What did Boon say (and paraphrase please) to make you think your role had “17 degrees of awesome”?

Why the fuck would I tell you this? Ive already stated theres town upside. You dont need to know more. As for these other questions, ill see if i can catch up.

All I need to do is become active a little and this wagon will vanish really really fast.

Because I need info to determine myself if your role is harmful to town or it isn’t. I really don’t understand your resistance at all.

The town upside to my role is mostly unrelated to the negative utility part.

Im not stating my other powers, because itll help scum.

I submitted three picks. the mod choose two of them to base my role on.

Now, focus your efforts on finding actual scum. ill catch up and answer questions in due time

[Vecna]

also, if someone can do a tldr of the most urgent questions, thatll be helpfull

[Vecna]

@BTE: I think he's still town, it's annoying he doesn't want to bother answering any questions towards him but whatever.

What I find problematic is people complaining about having no better slots to push while voting Vecna. Like sure lynch him at deadline if he's still the "least bad" option, what prevents you from scumhunting or forming other wagons elsewhere in the meantime?

“Annoying” really doesn’t begin to cover it. Who says none of the people voting Vecna are scumhunting? I don’t have a confident enough sr, to make anyone else a better vote rn. It’s a lot more that him not just answering questions, it’s his clear refusal to even try to work with town. I’d actually understand this attitude if he was actually trying to work with town, to try to mitigate some of the potential fallout from his role but to have a role that antitown and not have that player being willing to cooperate, is a double whammy.

Also this is a blatant scummy lie. When ive been around ive been extremely willing to work with town. Ive spebt a goddamn large number of posts explaining all this shit and how itll play out.

Being away for a while and posting proddodge type of posts while behind is not *being very unwilling to work with town*.

I’m neither “lying” nor am I scum, I just want you to answer some goddamned questions! If you had actually explained everything as clearly as you believe, there wouldn’t be this much paranoia surrounding your slot.

before i went vla everyone understood just fine and people had actually started complaining about everythibg focussing on mech talk (Which was fair at the time)

If you recall, one of the questions I asked you, if you were a sticky fruit vendor, because Titus’ role could either neutralize it because her role only works on things, so it would probably work on sticky fruit but not viruses.

no.

[Vecna]

You keep telling everyone else to go find scum, don’t you have any sr? Who do you think we should lynch and why?

Xtorx or whatevr his name is.

And if im remembering correctly i wassuspicious of both titus ans krazy kat, but I dont think theyre both scum with their outstanding claims.

I still have over half the game to read. once I get that done ill give you a lot more substantial first solve attempt

[Vecna]

also, now that RCE is here im sure im scumreadibg him as well, as is tradition.

Anyways, u guys can unvote me now.

[Vecna]

no it doesnt. It implies that even if they I infect scum, and they dont claim it, whoever they spread it to the next night can claim it and spread it to the other persons.

[Vecna]

Ill give davesaz some special attention, because that last post just sounded likes hes already made up his mind and is just looking for justification.

[Vecna]

(So much for all these drastically important questions people were claiming to have I guess).

[Vecna]

Ok yeah Vecna's scum. I didn't read that fight in detail but accusing Nancy of lying and saying I should know better is enough for a scumread combined with his role.

I also don't trust the infect back comment. Infect back only works if we never lynch the slots he targets but he refuses to townread Nancy and Auro (I think this is what Vecna meant by pops hydra) who I feel are the most likely obvtown slots.

I wasnt fighting. I was doing what people were asking to prevent a silly mislynch. The post WAS lying about what happened.

I thought pops was on the krazy katz hydra (it got suggested in the signups).

And yes, youre usually pretty good at catching me as scum and not that quick to jump to wrong conclusions when im town. You thought I was town at the start iirc and nothing happened on my part in between.

Also, saying that a role that turns the entire game into millers is a scumrole is just bad logic, even for you.

As I stated before, the persons getting the virus WILL NOT KNOW what it actually does. You can confirm that tomorrow. no mod would ever give a role like that to scum.

[Vecna]

vecna you need to claim the pro town power you alluded to
game is stalled and i dont think significant wagons are gonna be possible until we answer "is vecna the d1 play"

Vecna, I'd like to hear exactly what gives you the impression that Boon is suggesting there's more to how the role functions. Paraphrase please.

the conspire question is pretty good. ill try to answer without breaking the rules.

I pmd the mod a bunch of questions.

one was: Do infected people need to pass on the virus once, or every consecutive night.

The mod answered something like: They only pass it along the following night, and for as far as you can tell thatll be the only spread. but there might be more to it that I cannot go into.

It seemed like a pretty weird reply to me since it alluded to extra info without me asking for it.

[Vecna]

no mod would ever give a role like that to scum.

lol I think your expectations for modding on this site are off

once you see my full flip youll probably agree

[Vecna]

I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.

Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.

I like this way of thinking (townpoints really) but I dont think its asking for what you think it is.

I have no idea what the mod was insinuating. He probably was just fucking with me. Why hint to me theres some other role interacting with my shit if there actually is? That seems like a no-no in a closed setup?

[Vecna]

Whats with the repitition of ur auro read

I think hes pretty obvtown in a way that noone bar a few will properly pick up on. The type thatll still get him mislynched in a few days.

[Vecna]

Whats with the repitition of ur auro read

Regardless, a strange thing to pick up on since I disnt mention his name specifically. Why ask about him and not JJH and whoever else was in those initial townreads i mentioned back then?

[Vecna]

no it doesnt. It implies that even if they I infect scum, and they dont claim it, whoever they spread it to the next night can claim it and spread it to the other persons.

Ill give davesaz some special attention, because that last post just sounded likes hes already made up his mind and is just looking for justification.

Nope, seeing if you'll give a right answer.

How do we handle the case where you infect scum but aren't alive to identify who the missing claimant is? Can that scum then give it to everyone else? Is it safe to assume that generation 2 recipients won't know who they were infected by, only that they were infected?

Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?

Yes, gen two wont know who it came from. but if scum infects town, theyll only get to do it once.

THEN the town claims and you spread in a circle from there on out to contain it.

Imagine it as a house of corona patients locked up together if they could keep reinfecting eachother indefinitely. Whether one of the people got infected by someone outside of the house isnt as important, as long as u quarantine em together afterwards.

Also, I got multiple of my picks worked into my role. thats all im willing to disclose. Please stop fucking fishing for the rest of my role.

This negative utility is offset by a very generous set of other powers. I may or may not be overexagerating this to draw a nk tonight in case i talk myself out of this lynch today (to prevent a tiresomr day2).

Honestly, having to defend myself to this extent over a role like this is just...meh.

[Vecna]

Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?

Why would this be relevant?

As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.

If this is true I could probably make myself obvtown by just revealing my picks.

However, I dont want to do that.

If you guys could like, just read into my play pretty please?

Ive been blatantly obvtown in my handling of this nonsense, and im really wishing id just have kept quiet. But at least honour my wishes for playing thisbout in the proper way.

[Vecna]

Yes, gen two wont know who it came from. but if scum infects town, theyll only get to do it once.

huh this is a pretty good summary of why I supported lynching you

why? What does it matter if a town gets infected by me or a random scum?

What if I give you 4 names in which ill infect?

The most likely outcome is that people are just gonna claim tomorrow. scum will be happy to claim it. there is no downside.

Youre actually afraid of having to sort two people the old fashioned way?

Sounds like youre just looking for an excuse to keepnyour vote on me

[Vecna]

I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.

Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.

I like this way of thinking (townpoints really) but I dont think its asking for what you think it is.

I have no idea what the mod was insinuating. He probably was just fucking with me. Why hint to me theres some other role interacting with my shit if there actually is? That seems like a no-no in a closed setup?

I have similar wording in my role pm that ambiguously suggests maybe hoods are a thing. But that could also be bs and just making the role encompass all scenarios. Even if they aren't possible in the setup.

Just to specify, it wasnt in my role pm

[Vecna]

Those six people voting me (well except titus, but we):

Are you actually still scumreading me?

[Vecna]

Uh letting scum choose who gets millerized night 2 means they decide how mech solving goes

You're saying you're okay with giving scum control over the mech of the game

This is how scum got the sticky fruit in LNT and that led to THREE mislynches

So yeah, dumping a VIRUS on day 1 seems like a totally viable strategic choice because I have 0 faith in town to play around the bullshit your role can cause

Did you read any of the last boon game? There were so many brazen mech errors that RCE could fakeclaim a roleblock and nearly get away with it

So youre saying youll unvote me if I state exactly who ill infect?

All of this reads like youre towwneading me. If thats the case, why not give me the benefit of the doubt ive also thought this through and made a judgement call based on the added info that i have?

[Vecna]

I'll read into your play when you say who your second millerize target is because you stalling on that makes no fucking sense

theres a lot of other considerations there as well. predicting nightkills to get rid of a virus etc.

[Vecna]

Those six people voting me (well except titus, but we):

Are you actually still scumreading me?

What have you done upon returning that isn't regurgitating old shit, deflecting the problem, and relied on others to provide information to you that you could easily obtain by actually reading the game?

why are you not just giving a clear answer.

stop the deflecting bullshit

[Vecna]

effectively you should be saying "someone is so obvtown that I don't want them ever mech checked and I am confident that they will stay alive until the end of the game and not get nightkilled"

because every time scum kills your target, that means town has to millerize someone else

which is why nipping this whole shit in the bud right now is a totally legitimate strategic choice

I think having only one virus also opens up the option of leashing it to the next lynch. But I get your reasons for hating this shit.

Doesnt mean its worth lynching me over. That just feels like giving away too easy of a mislynch. From a blank pov, we dont even know how strong the investigatives are, but ofcourse its feasible that town power heavily relies on em and im there to potentially counter that.

[Vecna]

I think the obvious undertone is "yes, I'm absolutely scum reading you. Here's why:" but sure parrot my shit back to me. So town. Much solving. Wow.

Dont worry snowflake, ill make it abundantly clear even for the people less sharp in reading people that I am in fact town.

Having to deal with this role, and all the attention people are demanding isnt making it super easy, but ill give it a try.

[Vecna]

Those six people voting me (well except titus, but we):

Are you actually still scumreading me?

I didn’t like that you accused me and then later my

post

of lying and being scummy which was a scummy thing to say, not to mention 100% untrue and I asked the same fucking questions and just got insulted for it, so I don’t know how to read you. I don’t understand your confidence in only two town being infected. How do you possibly think you can guarantee that?

Maybe I was just annoyed to come back to the game and find that I have to defend myself from this stuff again. I had hoped to be over it and just get to catch up at my own pace for once, but no such luck.

[Vecna]

maybe I just need to put my ego of never getting mislynched as town aside and not give a fuck

[Vecna]

Those six people voting me (well except titus, but we):

Are you actually still scumreading me?

I didn’t like that you accused me and then later my

post

of lying and being scummy which was a scummy thing to say, not to mention 100% untrue and I asked the same fucking questions and just got insulted for it, so I don’t know how to read you.

I don’t understand your confidence in only two town being infected. How do you possibly think you can guarantee that?

Maybe I was just annoyed to come back to the game and find that I have to defend myself from this stuff again. I had hoped to be over it and just get to catch up at my own pace for once, but no such luck.

Why did you not respond to the bolded? I’m trying to understand your mech solve and so far I don’t.

If people play it smart, and town claim it, a plan can be made for every scenario.

it might be muvh to ask though.

The solve is you tell the two claimants to infect eachother every night. If theyre town, theyll listen.

If people do not claim the infection, likely meaning it went to scum, you leash the one person to infect the person that youll lynch the day after. then when scum infects a town a day later, the two infected still start infecting eachother.

[Vecna]

Anyways, im not gonna catch up on the rest of the game unless people decide to keep me around. I have more fun stuff to do than take that gamble.

For full disclosure, because fuck it, I submitted Sergtacos, symbiotic and vengefull neighbour.

Im a symbiotic (see game 4) and the viruspart is apparently based on sergtacos from the virus game.

[Vecna]

As it stands right now im thinking of infecting JJH and George Bailey

[Vecna]

you're a millerizing symbiote? which part of your role was supposed to be pro-town?

Symbiote can be used to bodyguard people and get a semi-cop check on your target with the right interaction.

My plan was mostly to just die N1, either by guessing correctly or just softing enough mysterious pro-town hidden stuff to attract it directly.

Anyways, if people are so afraid the mod designs a setup that the only proper way to handle this role is to D1 mislynch it then......yeah

[Vecna]

My role pm doesnt state anywhere that I cannot, so I assume so.

Also, the symbiote thing has additional interactions with the loyal disloyal modifiers that are not in that spoiler (if I symbiotize or we the verb is a scum, disloyal actions on me will suddnely succeed since theyre affected by the guy im symbiotic with)

[Vecna]

Titus, come back in here and tell me if you seriously think im scum here.

[Vecna]

Because he's making it up as he goes along?

pikachushockmeme.jpg

pat-pat

patpat-pat

(youre right though about the targets)

[Vecna]

if you symbiotized a miller would you be millerizing yourself? is it "alignment" or "alignment as it appears to invests"?

ehm, for the symbiotting (he-he) it looks at actual allignment to decide whether i can be targetted by investigations. for loyal/disloyal it states itdepends on whether your target allows it to or something along the lines. The syntax is a bit fuzzy to me

[Vecna]

so you could symbiotize and millerize me and if results in future succeed then fypov our alignments would be confirmed same?

What's your reasoning on jjh second target?

If I did that and people could still investigate me (an investigative ability that does not have some loyal/disloyal type of modifyer) that would townclear you.

[Vecna]

Titus, come back in here and tell me if you seriously think im scum here.

I need to catch up with the thread. I'm still working (one of the few) and Wednesday is Godaughter night.

Based on the skim of chkflip's reaction to your targets, I'm leaning town on you. I have always been conflicted on your slot. Basically, I feel chkflip is scum but I couldn't refute his arguments, which means the optimal play is to plug my nose and help bus.

I need to see how your additions (which I am inferring there are based on Venus's reaction) change the analysis.

Do you think chkflip is scum flailing and most of the wagons that took (3+ people) were on scum and we just can't agree?

No I actually think Chkflip is moderately town, and he's just under the strong impression im doing one of those "scum making up an elaborate fake role strategy"

Might change my opinion on that while catching up, but his interactions with me appear misguided town.

[Vecna]

And yes, youre usually pretty good at catching me as scum and not that quick to jump to wrong conclusions when im town.

Pretty sure we had epic fights before Civ mafia. The game eludes me. Now that I am doing an in depth read, rather than skimming, you feel townier.

Yes, we pretty much always end up fighting, scumreading and trying to lynch eachother

[Vecna]

Ok so, Ill just keep claiming whatever happens to my slot I guess, since atm im just like an open book and I have no idea if this has any bad repercussions.

I just received an item.

a POISONOUS BARB

sounds bad to me and I couldnt really find any reference to what that item usually does. Whether its bad to people I visit, or bad to people that visit me.......Thought y'all should know, and sorry if this was the wrong decision.

Anything you could do to that item TITUS?

[Vecna]

I did tell you guys that I received a poisonous barb right?

[Vecna]

I did tell you guys that I received a poisonous barb right?

Do you know what it does and did you send any and to whom? I know 3 people claimed. I know BTE was one, I think Vecna was one iirc and I can’t remember the third but if 9 different people received them, then it would seem bastard to suddenly have 9 slots die, so I’m trying to fogure out this mechanic. The game wasn’t advertised as bastard, so we know it won’t affect alignment.

I have no idea about it. The pm gave no information about how it works or what it does, and the mod was trolling me when I asked about it.

[Vecna]

Anyways, that recent flavourpost done by the mod indicates that we can send our items to random people tonight?

I have a lot of catching up to do I guess. Motivation is pretty low though. Just lurker-suicided myself out of another game.

Am I still on the hook of getting lynched in this game? Doesnt seem to a new VC

[Vecna]

Hey flip, what can I do to convince you that I am town?

A genuine conversation? An excellent foot rub?

[Vecna]

Eyyy regardless of alignment if you like playing DnD:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=82473

Is this doable if youve never done actual DnD, but love shit like Baldurs gate and pathfinder?

[Vecna]

the computer games that is obviously

[Vecna]

I only have townreads this game. so weird.

[Vecna]

Titus

Venus and Mars [Nancy Drew 39 + Shiro]

Sore feet [Xtoxm + The Worst] Xtoxm

The Fonz

Chkflip
RCEnigma Mechanic TrueSoulEnergy

Conspire [Hydra of ???? and ????]

Vecna
Davesaz
Krazy Katz [Amrun + ????]
Michael Scott [Auro + Volxen]

nomnomnom

Kakeguri Addicts [Mary Saotome + Yumeko]

Jjh927
George Bailey
BooneyToonzExpert
Chronos


Do people have good reasons to be townreading any of the people in red?

[Vecna]

Hmmm ok, guess I actually have plenty of people I dont mind going. The other people are just so much more present in this game.

BTE and Dave also havent made a very strong impresison.

[Vecna]

Have you ever mislynched someone before?

Honestly no offense but what part of he’s blatantly trying to get me pl’d did you miss?

It really doesnt look like a policy lynch to me. Stop overreacting, just let it be. Its not like were gonna be listening to him and this nonsense is just making the game harder to read (for us poor people that already have a hard time keeping up)

[Vecna]

This is pretty obvious tvt betwen VaM/Chp.

I dislike RCE's stance and how he handled the whole situation. I was gonna do a giant wall post but me and my partner have disagreements so I'm here instead.
~Mary

I think KA is town. Adding to my not today lynch pile. Yeah @Auro, also agree on GB.

I thought this line was one of those easy easy takes to take as scum. Everyone can see whats happening here. Maybe im just biased because of poe stuff

[Vecna]

Woats is NOT an attack on anyone’s character

I fully understand how you mean it when you use the term, but I don't think people on the receiving end perceive it that way.

Also Michael scot might be one of those people sliding by with only safe statements

[Vecna]

Woats is NOT an attack on anyone’s character

I fully understand how you mean it when you use the term, but I don't think people on the receiving end perceive it that way.

Criticizing someone’s gameplay is not a personal attack. Calling someone a “floating turd” has zilch to do with my gameplay and is a personal attack and I literally warned him not once but twice.

Its rather mild though right? Id really advise you not to get upset over stuff like that on the internet. Its really more of a term of endearment, AND in the context it was posted in it was also talking about your play IN CASE YOU WERE TOWN. So it was criticizing your GAMEPLAY.

Toughen up. Less drama. Better game.

[Vecna]

Chkflip locktown :3

Been saying that. Gonna be hard to not form a slightly more critical mind about venus after that wall

[Vecna]

Only now realizing Michael scott is actually Auro hydra

[Vecna]

VOTE: Krazy Katz

[Vecna]

Ugh, my posting sure is weaksauce. Sorry

[Vecna]

oh yeah, i was townreading nomnom early game. that catchup reminded me of that and reinforced the feeling.

Im not really seeing the scum in GB, but I also feel its the type of playstyle that might fly under my radar.

JJH what was that about alternate wincon?

[Vecna]

That last post of Davesaz struck me as extremely towny.

I know you guys owe some type of a catchup from me, but my time is still rather limited these days and im actually fairly happy with my reads for a day1. Ive been reading mostly in realtime, but I feel I have pretty good reasons for most of my townreads. Some of the initial ones have waned a little bit, but im still holding on to them.

Lazy playstyle with mainly loads of townreads and PoE type of deductions, but thats quite alright with me.

Im thinking of changing my Targets for the VIRUS tonight to CHKFLIP and KrazyKatz (due to popular demand, I atually think theres a moderate chance that last slot is scum, but with the miller claim the virus shouldnt matter -too much-)

Are there any reasons that I missed that would make these choices bad? Did KK ever talk about how the miller stuff would interact with loyal/disloyal and all that?

[Vecna]

VOTE: Kakeguri Addicts

L1

Mainly voting here in case I do not come back for a hammer later on. I want to be on this wagon. The composition is great. Please wait a little bit with a hammer for people to reply to my last questions.

[Vecna]

Did KK ever ask for me to infect them? I remember someone else commenting on how terrible my picks were because I didnt mention using it on them, but did KK ever talk about that?

If they did not, you guys should really really view that with suspicion. That would be such a big divide between their claimed role and core game important shit.

[Vecna]

Also, sorry for the stupid questions. Can someone give me a TLDR of stuff that was claimed for these poisonous barbs? What do we know (if anything?). Is there concensus on what we do with them tonight? We can give them to others, correct?

[Vecna]

Also, in case I do end up dying tonight for whatever reason, please never lynch nomnomnom. That slot is locktown but also lynchbait, and I know most of you probably wont see it the way I do, but #trust.

[Vecna]

Interesting. Id probably be fooled by that wall if he was scum and it was upto me. Those reads seemed pretty genuine. I fear this is gonna flip town.

[Vecna]

also begrudgingly confirming this:

vecna to virus chkflip and krazy

Here's to hoping im not gonna regret that.

[Vecna]

I mean, I havent made it a secret I havent read like half of the game. No idea why you felt the need to point that out again

Especially when my statement in itself made that clear already.

[Vecna]

Regardless, im probably gonna die tonight anyways since scum know im basically a 1-shot cop on my symbiote target if investigates just target me

[Vecna]

Ive considered that tbh.

The problem in that is if I do end up dying and I targeted scum.....anyways, we'll see.

If I end up targeting town they will just claim it since they do get notified.

[Vecna]

I have no idea about the order, and even if I did I dont think id share that.

If I die you wont know if its due to symbiote or whether I got targetted.

If I live ill report on shit tomorrow.

[Vecna]

Like, having to claim the symbiote shit was big -ev for town, but y'all kinda forced that shit

[Vecna]

should probably just have kept quiet and let chaos reign

[Vecna]

Anyways, im not changing my mind

I AM 100% targetting chkflip and KK with my virus

Dont want no shenanigans where I get killed and RB'd and two scums claim the virus or whatever