BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[jjh927]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

[jjh927]

Huh didn't actually mean to quote that but I guess it looks like it works

Sure
VOTE: Xtoxm

[jjh927]

VOTE: nom

[jjh927]

What in particular is interesting to you

[jjh927]

Well obviously

[jjh927]

Would you mind doing so then

[jjh927]

I don't care where your vote is while you do it

[jjh927]

I'd just like to know what exactly you're thinking is off there

Because your takes on KK are opposite to mine, although I don't want to draw attention to the specifics at this point

[jjh927]

It comes off tonally as manufactured but that's because it is manufactured

[jjh927]

VOTE: chronos

[jjh927]

I don't think entrance fluff posting can ever really be AI but it's enough that you're thinking about it

[jjh927]

Don't think that's it

[jjh927]

You can dream of other things
You will have plenty of time to do so

[jjh927]

It's page 4
Meta shit will be unreliable and confbiasy at best and you're both wrong for voting each other. We don't even know it's Krazy

[jjh927]

I am not seeing those things

[jjh927]

It's page 4
Meta shit will be unreliable and confbiasy at best and

you're both wrong for voting each other.

We don't even know it's Krazy

How do you know?

Because I'm good at the game

[jjh927]

Looks like Vecna can be town too

[jjh927]

Why are those my two options

[jjh927]

I voted Chronos because I decided that might be a decent place to put some pressure down based on the gif entrance

I voted Xtoxm originally because:
I accidentally quoted a post while making a point
I had no intention of expressing my reasons underlying the point
The quote, while not my reasons, could be seen as relevant to the point
So I voted Xtoxm because it sorta just made sense to do it and helped obfuscate things for content's sake

[jjh927]

It's nice that you picked up on that

It's also nice that Chronos is responding to pressure as I baselessly decided she would

[jjh927]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Lets bury this awkward entrance (also lol @ JJH for saying entrances arent AI)

Hey I said FLUFFPOSTING entrances aren't AI

[jjh927]

lmao

There were 3/4 separate things that made me TR KK in the first page

and then I feel like most people should probably be able to tell that I placed nom mostly based on her approach to the KA slot

[jjh927]

If you think you're looking for needles in haystacks when it comes to my play, you're not looking very hard

[jjh927]

@JJH odds of everyone posting on page5 being town?

Actually pretty reasonable

I'm town
You're town
Auro is looking nice and towny
Chronos could go either way considering this is a regular reaction that people have when they play with me for the first time
And then Nom posted after you said it, and Nom is town too even if they are wrong

[jjh927]

I don't think it's much of a club when the people in it are fighting

[jjh927]

1] Play to win. Nobody wants to be a loser.

-Actually the first rule of boon club

[jjh927]

Not talking about boon club is like rule 6

[jjh927]

Think I had some shit I wanted to reply to

[jjh927]

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

[jjh927]

Do I need to do everything to point out the obvious scum for you people?

VOTE: JJH
His tone is so forced and aggressive it's laughable! Nom vs Krazy Kats is 2 gamblers locked in a silly brawl. You should both fold cause you're probably town. But if you wanna keep going to make it fun for me I don't mind.

Hmm
How is my tone forced and aggressive? I'd like some elaboration considering the next thing you do is agree with something I said

[jjh927]

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

Upicks are inherently non random.

UPick ROLES are inherently non-random, but this does not include alignment

[jjh927]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

It's page 4
Meta shit will be unreliable and confbiasy at best and you're both wrong for voting each other. We don't even know it's Krazy

Looks like Vecna can be town too

@JJH odds of everyone posting on page5 being town?

Actually pretty reasonable

I'm town
You're town
Auro is looking nice and towny
Chronos could go either way considering this is a regular reaction that people have when they play with me for the first time
And then Nom posted after you said it, and Nom is town too even if they are wrong

Actually, I do think the stances JJH are taking a little too confident.

VOTE: JJH

Could you explain your Vecna and Nomo townreads me for me please, JJH? You will be rewarded with many galaxies and my personally favourite asteroid.

-Cosmic

Nom's thought process is clear and believable. Vecna is also evidently thinking things through, and I believe I first started townreading him after he pointed part of something I'd noticed out regarding KK.

[jjh927]

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

[jjh927]

What happens if someone picks Traitor, Framer, SK as their picks? How can they possibly end up town?

You design roles creatively. Personally I try to avoid making the extremely obvious roles out of picks, so if people picked actual mafia roles in a upick there is 0 chance of them getting exactly them regardless of what they rand.

I could design a town role based on any one of those 3 things as flavour.

[jjh927]

@jjh, refresh my memory, what alignment did you roll in RC uPick?

Thanks.

~M

Town

[jjh927]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

While I think you might be right about KK, nothing specifically in that post exactly screams “hard town” to me. Why couldn’t scum have made that post?

~M

Wait, Xtoxm made that post NOT KK. Are you sr Xtoxm, is that the basis for your hardtown read on KK?

~M

Lmao it took like 300 posts but someone still did the thing even though I fully explained some shit later

I suggest you look at the post immediately after that where I vote xtoxm, and my later post where I explain that I quoted xtoxm by accident and voted because it made for rvs content due to the possibility of somebody questioning wtf was going on with my reasoning there

[jjh927]

I'm honestly not sure about Chronos rn

Still vaguely leaning scum

[jjh927]

Where am I at where

I'm voting Dave with some conviction

[jjh927]

I voted Chronos because I decided that might be a decent place to put some pressure down based on the gif entrance

I voted Xtoxm originally because:
I accidentally quoted a post while making a point
I had no intention of expressing my reasons underlying the point
The quote, while not my reasons, could be seen as relevant to the point
So I voted Xtoxm because it sorta just made sense to do it and helped obfuscate things for content's sake

First post on the next page. This seems like an awful lot of explanation for such an early point in the game.
I'm 100% certain that I don't remember anything up to this due to that hard RL day so I'm going to need to re-read. But this caught my eye hard enough to mention it right now.

This is the scummiest post in the game rn

[jjh927]

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

Interesting you vote me for something I noticed during catchup, but didn't refer to anyone else who made the same observation about it being a lot of explanation. It's also interesting to note that I specifically said that I didn't remember the context (and still don't). So you'd like to have it looked at in context -- fine, that's part of the plan anyway.

Then this is the second scummiest post

[jjh927]

This is the scummiest post in the game rn

Why?

Without going into a looong post while I'm on my phone-
Because he shades based on something other people have mentioned but doesn't commit to a read. I also don't think he has any reason to think it's odd considering he is familiar with my play. The thing that stood out most to him in catchup is something that other people already addressed far beyond its merit that I don't think he should care for.

[jjh927]

Then he tries to deflect attention back to the other people who discussed the long explanation, and it looks like he also tries to diffuse the situation by backing off. However, I quite clearly stated that the reason I've singled him out is because he's played with me before and doesn't get the free pass to misunderstand my play that people who haven't played with me get.

[jjh927]

A town never defends a slot based on THE ACCURACY OF THEIR READS WITHOUT FLIPS.

Lol

Yeah they really do

[jjh927]

Ngl Chronos fighting with nancy looks town indicative

[jjh927]

Fighting with nancy is just a natural thing for some people and what I can gather about Chronos' tone and outlook leading into and during the fight makes this seem very natural

[jjh927]

I feel like my davesaz scumread has been a little overshadowed by all this aggressive nonsense and would like to draw attention to it again

[jjh927]

I'm also on my computer now so I'm happy to go into detail on stuff

[jjh927]

Yeah and I did elaborate that's what I mean when I said it got overshadowed

[jjh927]

Regarding post of interest 1

Without going into a looong post while I'm on my phone-
Because he shades based on something other people have mentioned but doesn't commit to a read. I also don't think he has any reason to think it's odd considering he is familiar with my play. The thing that stood out most to him in catchup is something that other people already addressed far beyond its merit that I don't think he should care for.

Regarding post of interest 2

Then he tries to deflect attention back to the other people who discussed the long explanation, and it looks like he also tries to diffuse the situation by backing off. However, I quite clearly stated that the reason I've singled him out is because he's played with me before and doesn't get the free pass to misunderstand my play that people who haven't played with me get.

[jjh927]

Let's put the quotes separately and treat this as back to back

I voted Chronos because I decided that might be a decent place to put some pressure down based on the gif entrance

I voted Xtoxm originally because:
I accidentally quoted a post while making a point
I had no intention of expressing my reasons underlying the point
The quote, while not my reasons, could be seen as relevant to the point
So I voted Xtoxm because it sorta just made sense to do it and helped obfuscate things for content's sake

First post on the next page. This seems like an awful lot of explanation for such an early point in the game.
I'm 100% certain that I don't remember anything up to this due to that hard RL day so I'm going to need to re-read. But this caught my eye hard enough to mention it right now.

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

Interesting you vote me for something I noticed during catchup, but didn't refer to anyone else who made the same observation about it being a lot of explanation. It's also interesting to note that I specifically said that I didn't remember the context (and still don't). So you'd like to have it looked at in context -- fine, that's part of the plan anyway.

[jjh927]

Boooo no follow-up

[jjh927]

considering he is familiar with my play.

Not as familiar as you think I am.

You've played with me before. You should know I work primarily on logic, and thus that there is nothing remotely strange about me articulating my thought process at any stage in the game

[jjh927]

Still voting you, but I'll concede some ground. My arguments regarding 281 are probably more compelling at this point

[jjh927]

Like really, you're busting my chops for a post I thought 20 seconds about.

That's exactly the point though?

You don't usually catch scum based on posts they've crafted with extreme care and precision

[jjh927]

Boooo no follow-up

If this was about 281 the very next thing I did was review the context of 100. 283 is the result.

our dog is mostly back to normal.
I have to go shopping. Feel free to ask some questions while I’m gone.

It was directed towards chkflip not following up on my posting about you

[jjh927]

Jjh927 -- amrun doesn't like, while jjh did try to explicitly pocket me in vengeful ghosts I feel like he's doing so too 'brazenly' here and so I'm disinclined to think he's scum. I do think 100 had an awkward tone but that doesn't change my feelings of the slot overall, will re-evaluate over the weekend maybe

Iirc Mastina was the only player I explicitly attempted to pocket in vengeful ghosts

[jjh927]

Yeah I'm probably gonna divert to KA next

[jjh927]

Still not 100% on Dave's alignment but I think I've see. enough out of the response to the push to back away

I'll leave it a bit and see if anyone else reacts though because I'm pretty sure some people are only skimming my posts and won't see this

[jjh927]

Yeah no good conclusions off like three posts, what did you dislike jjh? Other than their vote on you I mean?

-K

Let's wait until I'm actually pushing there

[jjh927]

Expert is on my to-do list

[jjh927]

Sure but faking a dayvig on Nancy gets the same reaction every time

[jjh927]

I can't imagine you don't know exactly how to emulate your reaction to a dayvig

I could do it and I'm not you

[jjh927]

It's occurred to me that a lot of people will have been exposed to my towngame via team mafia

This makes me more suspicious of the secret hydra
I might do them next rather than KA

[jjh927]

Vote Count 1.03

This might very well be the most boon thing I have ever seen in my life

-K

Sylvester?

[jjh927]

the likelihood of either of the heads being in TM themselves prolly

^this

And also that you didn't have to have read much of my game because nowadays I am what they call an early game player because scum shoot me in the early game

[jjh927]

Articulate a read on me

[jjh927]

You locktowned KK yet?

[jjh927]

I'm under the impression that the odds of Krazy enthusiastically propping up a hydra as scum are low

[jjh927]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

Does anyone else pronounce chkflip as Chick-Flip?

Yes

[jjh927]

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

Then when

[jjh927]

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

Then when

after d1 when we have some actual confirmed information

But then I might not get to call anyone locktown

[jjh927]

Katz, the lawyer comment was directed at Titus.

Not that it ultimately matters but it's c-h-k flip.

Not in my head it's not

[jjh927]

Lmao the phrasing on that question right after I wake up

[jjh927]

No, I have not decided which of the houses I viewed yesterday I would like to move into

[jjh927]

But I have decided to

VOTE: Conspire

[jjh927]

That sounds like a conspiracy theory

[jjh927]

Looking back at Conspire's iso I don't think I actually responded to Conspire asking about my Vecna and Nom reads which is awks but I guess I'll do it in a conversation

[jjh927]

I think there is a lot of time for pushing slots until you find one you actually scumread, personally, but maybe that's just my playstyle

[jjh927]

I don't honestly think that's a huge problem

[jjh927]

I don't think anything as stated is as big a problem as it's being made out to be

[jjh927]

That sounds like a lategame problem

[jjh927]

Yeah but if I lose it then it's not my fault

[jjh927]

What makes you think you'll have a solve tomorrow

[jjh927]

the game continues after you die on n1 you know :<

Nonsense if you die in the game you die in real life

~Venus

Fuck

[jjh927]

I guess people just grow extra heads now huh

[jjh927]

jjh you were actively solving on Page 5 but somewhere along the middle that just... stopped: why?

Not sure when you think I stopped tbh

I was viewing houses on saturday because I'll be starting a new job very soon if my activity dipped

But I'm pretty sure I've been posting. The issue is I don't have any good leads to scumhunt with, and I haven't put in the effort lately to make any more. And I'm against the Vecna wagon but I'm not really getting anything out of it existing either

[jjh927]

@jj: Look at your ISO and you tell me Didn't say you weren't posting, I used the word "solving".
Have you been townhunting then? Any new townreads since Vecna/KK/me?

Once people who sort easily are sorted, there isn't really a difference between scumhunting and townhunting. It's all just placing people.

That said, I liked recent posting by the Fonz, BTE, and I'm thinking Conspire's catchup is actually pretty towny.

And while you're making me think about this,
VOTE: GeorgeBailey

[jjh927]

Town

Jjh927, Venus and Mars
Krazy Katz, Auro

Null:

Vecna, Titus, Sore feet, Mechanic, The Fonz, Conspire, BooneyToonzExpert, Davesaz, Chronos
Chkflip, Kakeguri Addicts
nomnomnom

Scum

The lucky 4 gets a "nice" from me in a consecutive post

I'm particularly interested in this

Townreads are 4 of the 5 top posters

[jjh927]

Nah I don't feel like growing another head rn

[jjh927]

I was just gonna post about how I'm not gonna be posting much today because I got the new stellaris dlc yesterday and played a lot of it and plan to do the same today

But I'm gonna say that lynching Vecna for role here is dumb.

Think about what he has actually claimed:
He has claimed a very specific negative for town
He has claimed all the details of that negative
It appears there is more to the role than he has claimed

Now, if you do some thinking, you will realise that the reason Vecna claimed the negatives is so that it minimises their impact and town can play around it. You would also realise he has no reason to claim any pro-town bits because that lets scum play around them.
Lynching him because "hurrdurr it's a scum role" is actually dumb, when town with negative utility is incentivised only to claim the actual anti-town bits so they can be played around.


Now, if you think he's scum by play, then I'm willing to argue against anyone on that. But please, go actually scumhunt rather than lynching based on Vecna claiming something he didn't have to claim at all, because it's hard for me to decide which of you are misguided and lazy and which of you are scum from this kind of push.

[jjh927]

Oh I wasn't aiming for the pagetop that's nice

[jjh927]

Nothing has to be based on a prior booneytoonz role actually

[jjh927]

The picks I didn't get were

That one time I replaced into a booneytoonz game and got killed the following night

This collection of squiggles:

,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸

and I specified "In no particular order"

[jjh927]

Oh, I'm mocking your concerns?

[jjh927]

I'm pretty sure I was telling you they're poorly thought out with reasons why you shouldn't be concerned about them

This is an awful lynch for a variety of reasons. Mostly that I see 0 indication that most of the people on the wagon think they're lynching scum. But also that there is basically 0 information that you get out of it

[jjh927]

Vecna's earlygame was very town as well

[jjh927]

good to see none of my towncore is being swayed by this wagon at least.

Regarding those that claim my role is so disastrous to town......clearly they have not thought it through very well. Either I die tonight and town can claim who got infected. Or I claim it tomorrow myself. Claiming it before hand seems unwise.

Scum getting it and spreading it wont really be a risk. at max two town will get it, and they can keep infecting eachother.

It would be better if you claim your targets or at least a very small pool from which you will target

[jjh927]

I don't think it's a coincidence that Vecna is claiming to have got an item at the halfway mark in the day

[jjh927]

I don't think it's a coincidence that Vecna is claiming to have got an item at the halfway mark in the day

What's your implication?

The item existing is mod confirmed. This shade from jjh is bad.

It's not shading?

I'm saying that whatever gave items out did so as an action that resolves at the halfway mark on the day.

[jjh927]

I'm saying that whatever gave items out did so as an action that resolves at the halfway mark on the day.

I agree it's likely an action. Dunno if it's halfway by design or coincidence. Don't take this as rolefishing, but what's your confidence level on both points, that it's an action and that it's mid-day specifically?

Well it's definitely an action because it's a thing that has happened

And we know it happened about 3 hours after the halfway mark on the day, which is a reasonable time to resolve an action that would be halfway. I wouldn't bet everything on it, but as I said it seems unlikely to be a coincidence.

[jjh927]

Gonna be honest, I have no idea how my pick relates to my role

If it means anything, I can say it contains the squiggles even though it's not the squiggles or related to them

[jjh927]

ngl I should have just got 3 different collections of squiggles for my picks because it would have been funnier

[jjh927]

Followup question: should we interpret that to mean that you were unconcerned about your alignment/role and wanted to give Boon free reign?
I don't think it's indicative of anything but style, just curious.

I still don't think alignment comes into play with picks, but I definitely didn't when I submitted the picks.

I wanted to come up with weird ideas for picks so that Boon had to think about what the roles would be.
Although tbh I really don't see how my flavour fits my role at all.

[jjh927]

Imagine playing mafia today

I woke up, continued playing that new stellaris dlc
and then animal crossing arrived
and now it's bedtime

[jjh927]

I've mostly just been skimming since the stellaris dlc came out and trying to respond to shit that's aimed at me

But right now I don't really see much to follow up on. Just a bunch of shit I disagree with

and then I remember I'm voting George Bailey. And I look through the playerlist to remind me who's playing, and there is nobody I want to vote more than George Bailey. So George Bailey is a good vote rn

Not Vecna, not Titus, not Venus and Mars, not RCEnigma, not Davesaz, not anybody else who people are voting or thinking of voting right now. George Bailey.

[jjh927]

I woke up, continued playing that new stellaris dlc

No amount of dlc can fix that game

You're right in that it's broken af atm because when it gets to mid-late game the extreme numbers of pops make the game go slow
but it's still great fun and I like being the senate

[jjh927]

Do you have to vote Venus and Mars though

[jjh927]

The claim doesn't matter

all the Nancy telling people what they should think even though it's not what people think shit doesn't matter either

That hydra is just town outside of the bullshit

[jjh927]

I only have townreads this game. so weird.

I am having a similar issue but to a lesser extent and I'm pretty sure if I keep pushing the people at the bottom of my readslist someone will eventually go down rather than up

[jjh927]

I disagree with jjh about GB being a good lynch, I townread GB.

Tell me who good lynches are then

[jjh927]

The gamestate Nancy is actively creating is one where most discussion gets drowned out and Nancy gets lynched at eod

That is not coached scum or powerscum or most varieties of scum

[jjh927]

What exactly do you expect me to be doing here?

[jjh927]

What exactly do you expect me to be doing here?

Can you talk reads with me
I've noticed in my catchup there werent many of those

I find I'm townreading a lot of people at the moment, which isn't totally abnormal for day 1 but just means no scum are standing out hugely atm. I might pick up and prod the people in my scumreads a little to see what happens but I can't make any promises rn.

Townier side is on the left:
Hard Town: Venus and Mars, Chkflip, The Fonz, Titus, Vecna, Krazy Katz, nomnomnom, Davesaz
Thought these were town earlier but haven't really thought much about them since: Sore feet, Conspire, Michael Scott
Lean town: BooneyToonzExpert, RCEnigma
Possible scum: Kakeguri Addicts, Chronos, George Bailey

[jjh927]

Btw, which hydra head is it that keeps talking about me coasting?

[jjh927]

So the head that has seen me coast on purpose before?

[jjh927]

That's kinda hmm

[jjh927]

The one where I hydraed with Ali

[jjh927]

Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not coasting on purpose here this is just me having better things to do like stellaris, animal crossing, and preparing to move house during an epidemic

but I'll leave the second point unsaid

[jjh927]

I think you were playing the game in Apocalypse. You faked a post restriction for a good part of D1 and then began not-coasting IIRC.
Also, I don't believe PRs should "intentionally coast" anyway.

Nah I was still coasting d1 even after I stopped faking the post restriction. I started playing the game day 2 when I realised I hadn't played the game enough and my reads were probably trash

[jjh927]

@Mod: I am playing animal crossing right now

You have reached an alternate wincon. Game continues as if nothing happened.

[jjh927]

My island has apples

I already have enough bells in the bank to pay Nook the money I will owe him for my house extension tomorrow

[jjh927]

oh yeah, i was townreading nomnom early game. that catchup reminded me of that and reinforced the feeling.

Im not really seeing the scum in GB, but I also feel its the type of playstyle that might fly under my radar.

JJH what was that about alternate wincon?

Since I've been playing Animal Crossing rather than mafia I am the real winner

[jjh927]

{jjh, nomnomnom, Davesaz} seem like a bloc of people conveniently just townreading each other without any solid reasons.

Feel free to engage me in conversation about either of the other two

[jjh927]

Never said that.

hey jjh talk about your nom and dave townreads.

One at a time please. Also not while I'm on my phone.

I'd prefer more conversational than just doing a towncase

[jjh927]

hey jjh what specifically has made you continue to townread nom? Has that changed after their uptick over the past 24 hours?

Nom would probably have been in my "Thought these were town earlier but haven't really thought much about them since" pile but I thought Nom's catchup was great tbh. Took us comfortably away from the shitfest and into productive discussion, with some interesting takes on slots that I don't think people have been talking about lately.

[jjh927]

Generally, repeating shit other people are saying and quoting for agreement rather than looking at posts and finding new things to respond to

That's not me thinking about a scum!nom catchup in particular, just about scummier catchups and why by contrast nom's catchup is towny

[jjh927]

My bars aren't all that high day 1

[jjh927]

Does anyone want to visit my island on animal crossing

[jjh927]

Correctly TRing some people isn't valid evidence of good quality early reads I'm afraid

[jjh927]

Honestly Nancy you are incredibly vulnerable to various cognitive biases when you're talking about yourself. It's why you get into fights with people who vote you

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If you wanna talk about strength of reads then the best way to do that is with reasoning

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VOTE: KA

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Flavour? Does the hood include you? Are the modifiers applied to the players' roles?

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Did you get told what basic boon does???

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They did kinda miss some of my other questions about things

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and the only question they answered was a speculation

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I'm pretty sure the things that have been said about the role are at least mostly true.
The role modifers being random is extremely hmm though.

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Dude why would you do that

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I'm pretty sure at least some people believed that hammer had happened

Now it's a real hammer

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And now BTE's gone too

Get back here and explain yourself right now

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Last chance to visit my animal crossing island

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Well, before thread closes

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This is the most productive conversation we've had all game day tbh

I will trade my apples for stuff

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Ooh that might be of interest yes

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I copped Chronos with no result

This game is fucking dumb and I'm going back to bed

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We should probably consider massclaim even though it will make the game make less sense temporarily

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This suicidal secret cop shit should probably be the result of a role in the game appending that to other people's roles

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I got a sticky fruit and a different thing that nobody has said yet

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Do you know what it does because I know the modifier exists but it says "???"?

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I copped Chronos with no result

This game is fucking dumb and I'm going back to bed

There goes my IC token

maybe try again tomorrow if these sticky things go away?

Nah, it was the same n1 secret shit as everyone else

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Does it? There could just be quite a lot of things. It's two words, first has two vowels, second has one.

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I'll keep going if that still applies

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What do you mean claim targets for sticky fruits

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I'm keeping all my shit until I get three things

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Do we though? I haven't been told I have to do anything. Or that I even can do anything with the items.

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Yeah well I haven't been informed I may pass it along the following night

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This isn't a booneytoonz game anyway so don't assume things based on the discussion thread

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Hello, Boonie Toonies! This is the first ever BooneyToonz UPick! Now, the name may be a bit deceiving, but this game is NOT a BooneyToonz game, it is a UPick game based on the BooneyToonz flavor.

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Does it? There could just be quite a lot of things. It's two words, first has two vowels, second has one.

You're right that there could be a plethora of items in the game. There is already an explanation that doesn't require redirection.

Using vowel counts is tricky given there is a letter that sometimes counts as one and sometimes doesn't. And depends on whether you're talking about the number of vowels that appear or the number of letters that are vowels.

There's no y, and one of the two vowels in the first word is the same as the vowel in the second

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Sticky fruits don't do what they usually do

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They'll do something inspired by the sticky fruit in booneytoonz games but this is not a booneytoonz game


See: Me getting a second item in the same night I got a sticky fruit

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No because Nom got a sticky fruit too and everyone who has had a no result claimed on them from the N1 cop shit had sticky fruits

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At least I think that's the case

It'll be worth checking up on when we do massclaim and summarise everything

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Titus, can you not see why nothing about your role is autowin if you're actually town?

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There is a cop guilty on you right now from the first person in the day to claim their cop shot
This is a game that is considerably above the levels of fuckiness that we all signed on for
Either one of these two things make trusting you on a "mechanical autowin" a very bad idea, and I know you're capable of seeing that so why haven't you seen that and why are you just ateing about how town is bad if we lynch you rather than trying to do mechanics

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There's a delayed explosive modifier in this game that blows people up the following night

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There's a delayed explosive modifier in this game that blows people up the following night

This also sounds insane. Like a nuke ability? Like Shoshin had in some large theme I can't recall.

It's just a delayed vig called delayed explosive

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hahahaha
can we lynch titus now

We lynch Titus after massclaim

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When I say my entire role, here's the fucking KICKER.

I'M A FUCKING SURVIVOR BY DAY X.

Gotta love unadvertised bastard elements

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what is even going on
are you SURE this isn't bastard lol
pedit: I'm not claiming my other abilities

You sure are because it's massclaim and we'll get to you eventually but right now we're waiting on BTE because sore feet said so

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We should massclaim because this game is fucky af

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and I'd like to move away from mechanical shit and get lynching scum asap without a steady trickle of mechanical shit

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And it won't help scum?

No idea

It'll probably help town a lot more than it'll help scum, especially since this game seems unbalanced as shit and it would be nice to know what the hell is going on

Plus I hardly ever get to live to massclaim and I wanna lie detect

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If I claim my other ability I am 100% dead tonight
So I'm not doing it

Bad take

Nobody is 100% anything if they claim anything and we're gonna massclaim because fuck this game

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no u

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Titus hasn't claimed to have got a sticky fruit though

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Okay now that makes things very interesting

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What happened to you last night wrt items, Titus? Walk us all through every item related thing that has happened to you

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VOTE: rcenigma
Back to bed
This shit is easy

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Yeah so you had all night to think about people's reactions to the guilty

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Did you?

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Hmm yeah I don't think you did

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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Gee why don't you iso me from day 2

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If you need a hand it's because I wanted massclaim and more discussion

The scum self hammer might tell you something like maybe that scum didn't want that

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Oh wait it actually wasn't a self hammer lmao

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Seemed like the best way to get on top of a surprise bastard setup

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Still does seem like that tbh but I'm not gonna push the issue

That said I'm disappointed I didn't get an item of any kind last night
Thought I made it pretty clear I needed a third

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Haha yes bells the animal crossing currency when animal crossing was the thing I was using at eod1 to crumb a request for items I understand what you are referring to

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Okay you do it and I'll tell you if you missed anything out

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Speaking of mechanical stuff that got missed out, Titus missed out Chronos claiming to have got a sticky fruit which I'm gonna treat as an inno on Chronos

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What do you think of GeorgeBailey

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Spoiler: Selected George D2 quotes

I copp'd Nom last night and got nothing.

So I trust her.

VOTE: Titus

UNVOTE: Titua

wow, out of all......

UNVOTE: Titus

Spoiler: Selected Titus D2 quotes

Engage me. I'll be free tmo. It's bed time here. Let's discuss reads.

After all, you think I am confscum. Wouldn't you want those nice juicy associatives?

Let's start with George.

Slow down on the wagon. Let people speak.

What do you think of George's unvote?

Therefore my conclusion is that she gave the Virus a disloyal modifier, making K/K and potentially Chkflip unable to target any scum with their items.

The virus isnt an item, the sticky fruits are.

Boon confirmed to me in PM just now that the virus is an item

what didnt someone just say tha tit didnt count for them in the item coutner ?

~Venus

Sush, just ignore nom and let's scumhunt.

Talk to me about George.

You read this and conclude that he's scum?

What do you think is towny about the unvote exactly?

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Like, I feel like whatever your interpretation of George's play is is probably very imaginative, because you've gotta be filling in gaps with stuff that just isn't there.

I have no idea why GB unvoted, or more importantly why he trusted Nom after getting a no result when Nom had only claimed a guilty and none of the details about the suicidal secret n1 shit had been hashed out

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Scum Titus is experienced enough to use the situation to try to lay down negative associations with a partner.

I don't think George voting that fast and then unvoting awkwardly would be a Titus neg-associative plan.

What if it was a "there's a guilty" bus followed by the realisation that mechanics in this game are fucky and he might not have to bus?

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You're getting those vibes from George enough to call him low hanging fruit but you're voting Chronos?

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Speaking of mechanical stuff that got missed out, Titus missed out Chronos claiming to have got a sticky fruit which I'm gonna treat as an inno on Chronos

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If Titus is ascetic, though, nom wouldn't have gotten a result.

Oh right, so how do you account for her not claiming to have received sticky fruit then?

I wasn't targeted with it. I believe Chronos didn't claim it either although my notes could be wrong.

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I copped Chronos and got no result

Chronos claimed a sticky fruit

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although I believe Chronos claimed sticky fruit before I claimed my cop result

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If you REALLY wanna vote for the non-LHF, then I'd be down for voting Michael Scott

but I feel pretty good about either GB or RCE rn