Micro 928 | Permanent Marker | endgame

[GeorgeBailey]

That being said I think you have the right conclusion on pops and there's no one I'd currently vote over her

What do you think about Gobble/Pyrra?

[Heaven]

GB, how would you characterize your scumgame? Would you say you're good at scum?

[GeorgeBailey]

Would you say you're good at scum?

I'm hot garbage as scum, and Pops can vouche for that.

[Morning Tweet]

That being said I think you have the right conclusion on pops and there's no one I'd currently vote over her

What do you think about Gobble/Pyrra?

Weak town lean on gobble. He was really into his push on Wicked! If I recall correctly I joined him too cause I like the greeting tell

that's all I got on him. Why did you think his slot was scummy? You dont need to answer if it's already been outlined I'm gonna do more reading soon(tm)

Spoiler:

It's the post immediately prior to me.

I am dedicating my fullest attention to this game.

It's a good assessment that scum would be more likely to make something up. They would be more likely to feel they "should" be seeing something.

As is often underrated I think it's more AI for the person making the read

I worry that can read rude and I don't mean it that way

Should I not be serious, do you have a pt

Give it to me straight heaven scum undermined my townread on them last game so I lynched them I'll take all the free wins I can get

Do I need to clarify something?

ima keep it real, I have no idea what pops is talking about during this period of time and quite frankly im too confused to ask. Is it important and does it get in the way of trying to determine pops' thought process

[popsofctown]

I really didn't realize Heaven was so close to getting hammered and probably would have unvoted if I had realized.

Didn't you say earlier you thought my vote was L+1? So, wouldn't that mean you thought I was actually

closer

to getting hammered, not farther?

I thought you were at L-4 when I posted the meme, then when MT refused to immediately place a mark vote I assumed that meant you were at L-1. I don't know if she was just realizing you were at "functional" L-1, I didn't contemplate self votes.
I am surprised there was not more hammer shyness than there was.

[Heaven]

Gotcha.

Overconfidence is the fool's downfall, but 'm starting to think that this game might not be so hard.

Here's hoping that nobody can quote this at me after I fuck up 3 person LyLo, or something like that.

[Morning Tweet]

Would you say you're good at scum?

I'm hot garbage as scum, and Pops can vouche for that.

I read fusion mafia. That was a really town-sided setup, you know

[popsofctown]

I picked Heaven over GB because Heaven was even townier at the time but GB has reacted to the incident very townily and Heaven has not

[Heaven]

I really didn't realize Heaven was so close to getting hammered and probably would have unvoted if I had realized.

Didn't you say earlier you thought my vote was L+1? So, wouldn't that mean you thought I was actually

closer

to getting hammered, not farther?

I thought you were at L-4 when I posted the meme, then when MT refused to immediately place a mark vote I assumed that meant you were at L-1. I don't know if she was just realizing you were at "functional" L-1, I didn't contemplate self votes.
I am surprised there was not more hammer shyness than there was.

Where did you think those three votes came from?

[Heaven]

I'm really not tracking your thought process here. It honestly seems pretty inconsistent.

[Morning Tweet]

I really didn't realize Heaven was so close to getting hammered and probably would have unvoted if I had realized.

Didn't you say earlier you thought my vote was L+1? So, wouldn't that mean you thought I was actually

closer

to getting hammered, not farther?

I thought you were at L-4 when I posted the meme, then when MT refused to immediately place a mark vote I assumed that meant you were at L-1. I don't know if she was just realizing you were at "functional" L-1, I didn't contemplate self votes.
I am surprised there was not more hammer shyness than there was.

I also forgot he could hammer himself, yet still had the mind to give Paragon and Bailey a chance so if someone else joined on and hammered it 2/5 people who marked him didn't even want to

[Heaven]

Although I will say that even if pops is scum she isn't necessarily lying about not realizing how close I was to being marked. Could possibly be an explanation as to why that ended up the way it did.

[Heaven]

Pops, could you elaborate on why you think my thought process around this has been scummy?

[Morning Tweet]

I think she probably isn't lying about that because I honestly forgot too. Also there isn't much incentive to lie there imo

[Heaven]

I think she probably isn't lying about that because I honestly forgot too. Also there isn't much incentive to lie there imo

It depends on what explanation you go with for why I got marked assuming pops is scum. The lowest-complexity explanation is probably that she just isn't lying, though. Occam's razor and all that.

[popsofctown]

I really didn't realize Heaven was so close to getting hammered and probably would have unvoted if I had realized.

Didn't you say earlier you thought my vote was L+1? So, wouldn't that mean you thought I was actually

closer

to getting hammered, not farther?

I thought you were at L-4 when I posted the meme, then when MT refused to immediately place a mark vote I assumed that meant you were at L-1. I don't know if she was just realizing you were at "functional" L-1, I didn't contemplate self votes.
I am surprised there was not more hammer shyness than there was.

Where did you think those three votes came from?

Why would you expect me to have a list of names in mind when I said it's an L-value I didn't previously believe to be the case, but I thought MT's post implied the value L-1? I'm not sure if you're being intentionally dense and shitpushing here.

By the bye, how is "I'm confident in my ability to towntell and make a mark on me correct" consistent with "I know this will make me a few enemies" in the post with your selfhammer?

[popsofctown]

Would you say you're good at scum?

I'm hot garbage as scum, and Pops can vouche for that.

This is me not refuting GeorgeBailey

[Heaven]

By the bye, how is "I'm confident in my ability to towntell and make a mark on me correct" consistent with "I know this will make me a few enemies" in the post with your selfhammer?

Self-hammering myself as marked is probably gonna get some people at least slightly miffed at me (it already has), but 'm confident that over time I can show myself to be town.

Where's the contradiction?

[popsofctown]

That doesn't line up very well with your refusal to believe I was townreading you earlier. I have two cases of you representing that you think it's difficult for you to get townread, that and the selfvote post, and one case of you saying you're confident in your ability to get townread: when you obligatorily have to say that to not be gamethrowing or scumclaiming

[Heaven]

My asking if your was serious doesn't indicate that I believe myself difficult to townread in a general sense, it would only indicate my incredulity at your reasons in a specific sense. That, and I thought you could have been joking. If you were, I would've thought it was pretty funny, but if you weren't I didn't want to be rude.

And like I said, the self-vote post isn't contradicting that I think that I can towntell.

[Heaven]

I mean, 'm not the only one who couldn't really get a good grip on those posts. MT had pretty much the same impression.

[popsofctown]

Scumread me all you want man, I just can't stand people acting high and mighty. 'specially when they're wrong about basic stuff like that. Someone's arrogant and correct - 'm still annoyed, but I can probably look past it in the end. Arrogant and wrong - that's an unholy combination.

I don't understand how I'm holistically supposed to view you as a player aiming and expecting to become UTR and win us the game

[popsofctown]

I'm happy to answer more specific questions about my posts

[Morning Tweet]

You were saying that Heaven was a strong townread for you, then you were worried you were coming across as rude for I'm not sure what, and then I'm not sure what you meant by 243 and 244.

I also wanna ask, when you said this:

It's a good assessment that scum would be more likely to make something up. They would be more likely to feel they "should" be seeing something.

Did you mean that it's a good assessment by Heaven (making Heaven seem town) but not necessarily the right conclusion, or that Heaven is right in that scum is more likely to make things up and that you agree with the assessment itself?

[popsofctown]

It was a good assessment