Open 775: Hard-Boiled Eggs [Game Over]


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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:30 am

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I think the hider also dies if they target the vig.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 am

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I mean, I admit that I’m thinking of it mostly because I’m probably unnecessarily wary of hypoclaiming but there’s literally nothing we lose by getting a claim. No matter how I think of it, this seems like an one sidedly good idea
Allomancer wrote:I think the hider also dies if they target the vig.
That’s also based on luck. It won’t change no matter if the hider claims or not
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:34 am

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Hello.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:34 am

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Hello again.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:37 am

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In post 9, DkKoba wrote:Hello, this is my first non newbie game.

I'm going to go ahead and VOTE: Aloratom[/vpte]

That's what you get for calling me bad in the last game we played together in >:(
I don't have a good history with a few on this roster.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:40 am

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In post 29, Aloratom wrote:
In post 9, DkKoba wrote:Hello, this is my first non newbie game.

I'm going to go ahead and VOTE: Aloratom[/vpte]

That's what you get for calling me bad in the last game we played together in >:(
I don't have a good history with a few on this roster.
Who have you previously played with?
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:41 am

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Feeling pretty good on my 72offsuit SR.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:44 am

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In post 30, 72offsuit wrote:Who have you previously played with?
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:46 am

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In post 22, Allomancer wrote:
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:FoS Alora and Allomancer because now if i want to use the abbreviation Alo it will be confusing
One "l" vs two "l"s. Alo and Allo.
Yeah, this'll be fun.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:50 am

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Hide: every night, you may PM me with the name of someone who you want to hide behind. If that player is a member of the mafia or the vigilante, you will die. If the player you hide behind is targeted for a nightkill by the mafia or vigilante that night, you will die. If you are targeted for a nightkill on a night that you hide behind someone else, that nightkill will not affect you.

Doesnt sound that op. 3 scum. So first night 3/12 = 25 percent chance hide behond scum = insta death.

1/9 chance hide behind town that is being killled thus also die.

Worth noting, i think, is
With a claim, scum knows not to waste a kill opportunity targeting the hider's slot.

A claim for a clear that cant b targeted still sounds +EV.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:52 am

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Day lynch changes the odds so thats wrong -_-
Guess the principles still hold tho
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 33, Aloratom wrote:
In post 22, Allomancer wrote:
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:FoS Alora and Allomancer because now if i want to use the abbreviation Alo it will be confusing
One "l" vs two "l"s. Alo and Allo.
Yeah, this'll be fun.
Would the real Alo / slim shady pls stand up.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:14 am

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In post 32, Aloratom wrote:
In post 30, 72offsuit wrote:Who have you previously played with?
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Oof, I didn’t recognize you cuz of the avatar change. Hi!
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:15 am

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hello everyone
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:15 am

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In post 31, Hiraki wrote:Feeling pretty good on my 72offsuit SR.
Wanna elaborate?
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:18 am

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In post 36, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 33, Aloratom wrote:
In post 22, Allomancer wrote:
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:FoS Alora and Allomancer because now if i want to use the abbreviation Alo it will be confusing
One "l" vs two "l"s. Alo and Allo.
Yeah, this'll be fun.
Would the real Alo / slim shady pls stand up.
Wdym by stand up?
And who is slim shady? :/
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:23 am

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In post 39, ejjinami wrote:
In post 31, Hiraki wrote:Feeling pretty good on my 72offsuit SR.
Wanna elaborate?
Perhaps later. I am sure the true tells will show soon enough or I will be wrong.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:47 am

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Vote count 1.1

Hiraki (1)
- Tet

Tet (1)
- 72offsuit

72offsuit (1)
- Hiraki

Aloratom (1)
- DkKoba

QuantumQuasar (1)
- Looker

happyorange (1)
- ejjinami


not voting (7) -
DrDolittle, QuantumQuasar, Allomancer, Battle Mage, Aloratom, happyorange, clidd


with 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch


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(expired on 2020-04-11 09:00:00)

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:02 am

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In post 41, Hiraki wrote:
In post 39, ejjinami wrote:
In post 31, Hiraki wrote:Feeling pretty good on my 72offsuit SR.
Wanna elaborate?
Perhaps later. I am sure the true tells will show soon enough or I will be wrong.
I was obsessed with that game. It tore me up inside. Poor little 9S

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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 40, ejjinami wrote:
In post 36, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 33, Aloratom wrote:
In post 22, Allomancer wrote:
In post 19, 72offsuit wrote:FoS Alora and Allomancer because now if i want to use the abbreviation Alo it will be confusing
One "l" vs two "l"s. Alo and Allo.
Yeah, this'll be fun.
Would the real Alo / slim shady pls stand up.
Wdym by stand up?
And who is slim shady? :/
Don't tell me that I'm that old. And even older than that.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 am

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Mmk so while hypo is a nice idea it's not necessary. Best chance for town is mathdinos strat in 487.

-hider claims late d1 without dropping reads/does not claim who they are hiding behind.

-tracker/vig chooses tracker and tracks hider.

-det/psych holds claim till late game if at all possible

This changes if tracker/vig is going to be lynched d1. In that case they take vig and shoot the scummiest target, hider moves freely.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:14 am

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Vote: ejjinami


3 consecutive posts, and 2 consecutive posts on the first page? Pull yourself together! :lol:

Either an over-zealous townie desperate to make their mark, or a nefarious goon trying to muddy the waters by making the game thread needlessly long.

:cop:

Strategy wise, I like Tet's idea of exploiting the tracker-hider combo. Although we would need to play the day phase a bit cautiously to reduce the likelihood of outing the tracker. And we'd have to hope the tracker didn't go rogue and pick vigilante or something!

An alternative would be that we all say who we will target each night as hider, so if the real hider dies, we have a trail, but also we don't out them.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:42 am

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Well...having read some of ejjinami's old games....I stand corrected. If anything, this is slightly more mellow and chilled out than normal. :lol:

Although I couldn't see any games with you as scum to really test the theory - any suggestions?

Unvote: ejjinami


Let's try
Vote: Dkkoba


I'm not convinced by "Hello, this is my first non-newbie game". It reads a bit like "please don't lynch me, I'm new".

Furthermore, I can see this isn't your first non-newbie game. Why lie? :eek:
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 45, Tet wrote:Mmk so while hypo is a nice idea it's not necessary. Best chance for town is mathdinos strat in 487.

-hider claims late d1 without dropping reads/does not claim who they are hiding behind.

-tracker/vig chooses tracker and tracks hider.

-det/psych holds claim till late game if at all possible

This changes if tracker/vig is going to be lynched d1. In that case they take vig and shoot the scummiest target, hider moves freely.
Why
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D1? I don’t see how it’d change anything :/

I agree with that the rest tho
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 46, Battle Mage wrote:
Vote: ejjinami


3 consecutive posts, and 2 consecutive posts on the first page? Pull yourself together! :lol:

Either an over-zealous townie desperate to make their mark, or a nefarious goon trying to muddy the waters by making the game thread needlessly long.

:cop:

Strategy wise, I like Tet's idea of exploiting the tracker-hider combo. Although we would need to play the day phase a bit cautiously to reduce the likelihood of outing the tracker. And we'd have to hope the tracker didn't go rogue and pick vigilante or something!

An alternative would be that we all say who we will target each night as hider, so if the real hider dies, we have a trail, but also we don't out them.
Pfffft, I’m kinda tempted to start spamming the thread just to irritate you more
That’s EXACTLY why games here are so hard to start lol. I’m not gonna stop myself from posting just because... posts are apparently a pain to read???

Hahahaha, actually that might be the only explanation.

If you wanna fake a read at the beginning of the game, that’s fine but I most likely won’t. So you’ll just likely have to deal with me spamming the thread till I figure out what to do.
Compared to real spammers like RC, Boon or Robb I’d say the way I post is pretty mild anyway

And the last thing you talked about is called hypoclaiming. It is good if done correctly but at least from my experience, it can backfire badly...
I... could try again but if possible, I really wouldn’t want to
There’s no reason to do it here anyway imo

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