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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:02 am

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IH: Is lowell so far down on the scum list that no one is as scummy? :lol:

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Lowell - 5 (killa seven, farside22, Light-kun, IH, dybeck)
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sekinj - 1 (FaerieLord)
Not voting: populartajo, sekinj
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:06 am

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I say if we lynch Lowell today and he flips town, IH dies tomorrow! :lol:
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:48 am

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Syzygy wrote:I say if we lynch Lowell today and he flips town, IH dies tomorrow! :lol:
I oppose both parts of this plan. FL and Pop REALLY need to be dead.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:44 pm

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My List of Suspects


Town:

sekinj
– that’s me.
Farside
– seems very helpful in the hunt for scum, puts good pressure on, good thoughts
Dybeck
- seems genuine and thorough, ready to find scum. Not afraid to look at all the issues.

??:

Light
– there are some supicions against him, and I don’t like that his first posts had jokes in it that we weren’t supposed to get. I don’t think that was helpful. Yeah, he missed the random voting stage. Boo hoo, Lets cut the outside references and find scum. However, in the posts since the whole percentages was explained, I’ve thought he has had good insight.
Killa
– Eager to play, posted before he was a player, don’t like his lurking and unsubstantial posts
IH
– was gone for quite a spell, significant things happened, couldn’t get much of a read.
FL
– Seems town except for the damning post by Sun. I can’t see Sun trying to pull down a villager, yet FL hasn’t done anything else scummy. Being convinced that she found scum isn’t scummy imo.
Syzygy
– Aegor’s beginning jokes and then backpedaling looked scummy. But I think Aegor ruined things by posting in the thread that he would replace back in for anyone. That would be unthinkable if Aeg was scum, unless he was counting on the mod to replace him as himself or another scum. Obviously otherwise he would know all the scum. *sigh* I wish Aegor hadn’t posted back in the thread. Syz’s post have been short and too the point, but I think have good points (except that having a hit list seems scummy, but it can't be because aegor voluteered to be anyone).

Scummish:

Tajo
– has been coaching since post 53 (and before, but that was the first that jumped out at me). lots of questions, few answers, too seemingly cautious with his reasoning, trying to look like he is seeing both sides.
Lowell
– was lurking at first, starting posting a lot when he needed to defend himself. I didn’t like the flip flopping on sun, or the after the nick of time hammer. I can see being excited about killing scum, but not so much when he didn’t help except for a late hammer.

Maybe post 65 was distancing between lowell and tajo?

Lowell in Post 70 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
Lowell in post 65 wrote:
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:14 pm

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Ok, cna someone please answer.

1) how many scum and how many townies are in this game?

because i think Lowell, pop, FL should be dead and i'm confident that at least 1 of them (if not 2...most likely 2) is the scum.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:31 pm

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Phate wrote:There are 4 Mafia and 7 Townies.
I find Syzygy's claim to not know the breakdown suspicious in the extreme. It seems pretty obvious to look at the opening posts in an Open Setup to find out this kind of info.

This looks to me like it's going to be used later as part of a "I can't be scum... hell... I didn't even know how many scum there were!" defence.

FOS: syzygy


Elsewhere... I think it's crunch time. Populartajo and killa seven could well be scum, but they're not here. It's pretty pointless voting someone who's not here to defend himself. Lowell, on the other hand
has
posted his last defence and, well, it sucked. I'm ready to get 'er done.
unvote, vote: Lowell
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:44 pm

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TOWN LIST:

Lowell
FaerieLord
farside

?? LIST:

Dybeck
IH
killa seven
Light-kun
Syzygy
populartajo

Prob. SCUM LIST:

yellowbounder

I don't like the lowell lynch at all. I'd rather have a popu lynch than a lowell lynch, even though my favourite is still a YB (now sekinj) lynch.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:17 pm

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IH wrote:Town-
Not really anyone so far

Townish neutral-
Farside

Neutral-
Chelsea's replacement?(name isn't in first post, which is what I'm using so I don't forget anyone
Dybeck
FL
Killa seven

limbo between the two depending on info-
Syzygy

scummish neutral-
Pop

Scummish-
Light





Lowell
I am the second most scummy person to you?

Whatever... And just to bother sekinj:
Percents return! (100% indicates townieness)

100% Light-kun

90%

80%
Farside
70%

60%
Dybek, FairieLord
50% Sekinj
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40% Killaseven

30% IH, Tajo

20% Lowell

10%

0%
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:12 am

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FaerieLord wrote: I don't like the lowell lynch at all. I'd rather have a popu lynch than a lowell lynch, even though my favourite is still a YB (now sekinj) lynch.
And why am I your strongest case? There seems to be much more compelling evidence out there.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:14 am

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@light - 50%??? WHAT?? NO!!!! There you go, there is the reaction you were looking for. Can we move on now? :P
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:56 am

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Even scummy scum scum FL admits I'm town. It's stupid to lynch me. Also, FL is buddying up to me. It won't work, I'm still coming to lynch the crap out of her.

My dying wish is that she dies, as does popular.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:57 am

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Also, dybeck, I won't take the blame for my own lynch. That mess is on you.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:42 am

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@tajo: are you going to defend yourself? It looks like we all agree on lynching you.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:10 am

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mod: any news on replacements for populartajo and killa seven?


I believe that two of the three remaining scum are absent.

There's an argument that perhaps we shouldn't lynch Lowell until we've heard all three of these players' opinions of each other.

Both populartajo and killa seven last posted on July 19 in my time zone (at 1:17 AM and 2:02 AM, respectively). They've both been prodded, but I don't replace players until they've been gone for five days, weekends counting as one day. If they haven't posted by then, they have until I log back in to post before I replace them.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:10 am

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FaerieLord wrote:
TOWN LIST:

Lowell
FaerieLord
farside

?? LIST:

Dybeck
IH
killa seven
Light-kun
Syzygy
populartajo

Prob. SCUM LIST:

yellowbounder

I don't like the lowell lynch at all. I'd rather have a popu lynch than a lowell lynch, even though my favourite is still a YB (now sekinj) lynch.
Why is Lowell on your town list and how is it that you have only one person as prob scum?
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:03 pm

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@Sekinj: I was refering to the percents bothering you, but I really don't know what you are, so you are at the 50 mark, obviously.

@FL: I don't care for Lowell being in your town list, at all. Your scummy lst is also a tad off for my taste. And that might be, cause I don't recall a Yellowbounder... XDDD
Lowell, I can loosely see as being "???" but not really pro-town. And with all the accusations he has made against you, the only way you can conclude he is town is if you are scum...

Hm...

[b]Unvote, Vote:Fairie Lord[/b]

We'll see were this goes.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:10 pm

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i could have swore i just posted.
dybeck i would appreciate it if you not damand i get replaced.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:18 pm

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Hi I was proded. Busy times here but posting ASAP.
Call me Tajo.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:20 pm

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killa seven wrote:i could have swore i just posted.
dybeck i would appreciate it if you not damand i get replaced.
I'd appreciate it if you posted instead of lurking.

Since you're back, though, I have some questions for you. Let's start with "Why were you so quiet throughout the whole Sun Tzu wagon, only emerging with a comment immediately after the hammer?"
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:39 pm

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Light-kun wrote:@Sekinj: I was refering to the percents bothering you, but I really don't know what you are, so you are at the 50 mark, obviously.
I know that's what you were refering too. I just saw that YB was 12% in the first fake percentage list and now I was 50%. So I gave you a show.

and now here I am talking about the dumb percentages AGAIN. :P
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:44 pm

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Lowell wrote:Even scummy scum scum FL admits I'm town. It's stupid to lynch me. Also, FL is buddying up to me. It won't work, I'm still coming to lynch the crap out of her.
I'm not trying to buddy up to you. I'm only saying that you are probably town, based on how you played in the past in games I'm in.

I mean, if you want to be an idiot an lynch me just because of a comment a dead scum made, go ahead. But frankly, you don't have a case on me
Farside wrote:Why is Lowell on your town list and how is it that you have only one person as prob scum?
Because I sincerly think Lowell is not mafia. Also, there's only person I think is pretty surely scum. The lower on the neutral list, the more I think you might be scum
Light wrote:the only way you can conclude he is town is if you are scum...
Or if I use meta

That is seriously pretty awful right there

@Sekinj. I don't really want to post a case on you / yb / chelsea until I see more of your play. As to be honest, you seem rather town right now, but yb gave really bad scummy vibes
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:46 am

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First off, the comment by a dead scum IS the case against you. Both what he said, and how you reacted to it was WAY off to be a scum/town interaction. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall, how obvious this is while no one sees it.

Second, it's not like I don't have other suspects. sekin and popular should die too. Between the three of you I'd bet there's at least 2 scum.

Incidentally, those who are pushing so hard for my lynch despite there being players who have more or less sat out the entire day should explain their hurry.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:16 am

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@lowell: fl is not wiling to explain her case against me, and you say she is scum. Are you willing to explain your case against me?
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:24 am

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My case against you is the case against yellowbounder, really. The fact the FL is also accusing you doesn't absolve you. Scum bus a lot, and particularly when there aren't a lot of votes on a teammate it's particularly easy to call that teammate out and do some distancing.

dybeck summed it up earlier, I believe. It had a lot to do w/ your predecessor's actions around the sun bandwagon. I can explain it again if you want.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:48 am

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@lowell: that is understandable. Unfortunetly I obviously cannot explain his actions on the sun lynch, but I can see how they look scummy.

I do think that the case against you and tajo are stronger, however.

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