Open 85 - Jester Mafia (Game over) before 630

[Xtoxm]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

[Apothecary]

But if people act jestery, wouldn't the mafia want to night kill them?

[cr3t1n]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

y

[Xtoxm]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

y

Well i'm not telling you. If you can't figure it out you must be a Jester!

[cr3t1n]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

y

Well i'm not telling you. If you can't figure it out you must be a Jester!

y

[Xtoxm]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

y

Well i'm not telling you. If you can't figure it out you must be a Jester!

y

Because Sharon den Adel said so!!!

Don't question it or you'll be squished like a bug!

[Crazy]

I still don't get the purpose of acting jestery. It detracts from the mafia's jester-hunting, and our scum-hunting.

[Rishi]

I want to hear more from The Jester (the player).

[Kmd4390]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

no, we really shouldn't.
We should be finding scum.

[Kmd4390]

Mod, does the game end if the jester is lynched?

[The Jester]

Apologies, I'm here. There is no rea

son to act Jestery, no one should act that way.

I might re-read some more to see if

I can put something together from this.

[forbiddanlight]

Apologies, I'm here. There is no reason to act Jestery, no one should act that way.

Congrats, you already are townier than some of the people playing this game.

[Kmd4390]

There is no reason to act Jestery, no one should act that way

Agreed 100%.
It is too much of a distraction and accomplishes nothing.

People don't see this for some reason...

My instinct tells me jestery=scum but I don't know what to think.

It also gives the jester and excuse to act jestery (and end up lynched) because everyone else is doing it.

[Skruffs]

If I were to choose, I'd prefer a Jester lynch day one over a Mafia lynch day 1.

Was that a typo? Because that makes absolutely no sense.

Actually it was. Obviously I would prefer to l ynch Mafia over town, and town over jestser. I guess what I meant was that I'd rather lynch the jester day 1 and have mafia lose the game, then I would rather lynch mafia day one. But I'm kind of an underdog for the unique roles in games.

Skruffs, are you saying townies won't act pro-town?

No... I'm not. Townies will be Townies. I'm saying tha ttownies should act like jesters. Jesters will act like scum, and scum will act like townies. Townies acting like jesters screws with the mafia nightkills, making it more likely that they will actually hit the jester (who is acting like scum, remember?) The jester inherently wants to be lynched, not nightkilled, so acting the way a jester would act will freak the jester out and out him. SImilarly, the scum are trying to act like town - if everyone else is encouraging them to act like scum, they will either freak out, or act like scum and slip.

Some one who is pro-town must be scum? This makes no sense.

I did not say "Someone who is pro-town must be scum". I said that if scum are trying to act pro town and the jester is trying to act like scum, then the correct course of action is to lynch the pro-town acting players; they are more likely to be scum than the pro-town players who do not know any better and thus are incidentally acting scummy.

Yes, scum will appear to be pro-town but so will townies. You can't lynch a player just because they are pro-town.

Please point to examples in this game to back up your point of the players who are acting pro-town.

Also, a jester lynch over a mafia lynch??? Are you serious??? A mafia lynch is ALWAYS good. It is our goal to lynch mafia!!! A jester lynch LOSES THE GAME.

FOS SKRUFFS

See? If you think I am the jester, you are not going to vote me. The jester will not act protown, and the scum will. So lynching protown ACTING players, leads to a more likely chance of lynching scum.

I still don't get the purpose of acting jestery. It detracts from the mafia's jester-hunting, and our scum-hunting.

If the mafia successfully find and kill the jester, what excuse will they have to act scummy? None. The entire schematics of hte game changes. The mafia are not going to hunt the jester until it is closer to LYLO; they are not huunting the jester day one.

Unvote, vote: Crazy

The last two times a player pushed the idea that scum would hunt for opposing scum, both of those players were scum. There is never any reason to think that the scum will act pro town and try to hunt scum; if you actually believed that, you would be trying to vote the players who are acting pro-town, and not the players that are acting scummy.

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

no, we really shouldn't.
We should be finding scum.

Yes, we should! why are you stalling?

Apologies, I'm here. There is no reason to act Jestery, no one should act that way.

Congrats, you already are townier than some of the people playing this game.

In your eyes, does this make him less likely to be the mafia?

[Skruffs]

There is no reason to act Jestery, no one should act that way

Agreed 100%.
It is too much of a distraction and accomplishes nothing.

People don't see this for some reason...

My instinct tells me jestery=scum but I don't know what to think.

It also gives the jester and excuse to act jestery (and end up lynched) because everyone else is doing it.

If we lynch the pro-towniest of players, the jester has to act protown, and that makes it more likely that he can be shot, correct?

I am not saying act jestery the ENTIRE GAME... but for the first day or two it is a sound strategy.

[forbiddanlight]

In your eyes, does this make him less likely to be the mafia?

If he's townier, than yes, he's less likely to be mafia. Yanno, the town is AGAINST the mafia, so being townie automatically implies I don't think he's mafia.

[Skruffs]

I take that back, THREE out of THREE games... Bgi Brother, Pirates vs Ninjas, and Open 74.

[Kmd4390]

Skruffs, I am reading your posts and in my head, disagreeing with EVERYTHING.

If you put this idea out, the jester is not going to act like scum. The jester is going to do what gets them lynched.

If we all act jestery and won't vote each other, the scum will do the same too. How the hell do we lynch some one when everyone is acting jestery?

It's like having an extended random phase which gets us nowhere.
I think that is exactly what scum would want.

vote skruffs

I really don't like your ideas.

[forbiddanlight]

Skruffs, I am reading your posts and in my head, disagreeing with EVERYTHING.

If you put this idea out, the jester is not going to act like scum. The jester is going to do what gets them lynched.

If we all act jestery and won't vote each other, the scum will do the same too. How the hell do we lynch some one when everyone is acting jestery?

It's like having an extended random phase which gets us nowhere.
I think that is exactly what scum would want.

This exactly. It's so flawed I didn't even know where to begin. Thanks for articulating what I was thinking.

[Skruffs]

In your eyes, does this make him less likely to be the mafia?

If he's townier, than yes, he's less likely to be mafia. Yanno, the town is AGAINST the mafia, so being townie automatically implies I don't think he's mafia.

So a player with a mafia role is less likely to act "pro-town" than a player with a townie role is? Does this mean that the inexperienced players and lurkers are more likely to be mafia?


I'm just trying to see how you think the game is setup; there is no reason to think that someone, getting a mafia role, will say "Darn now I have to act suspiciously"....

[forbiddanlight]

So a player with a mafia role is less likely to act "pro-town" than a player with a townie role is? Does this mean that the inexperienced players and lurkers are more likely to be mafia?

As people talk, they slip. For now, Jester seems townier. If he talked a bit more, he'd be more likely to slip if he's scum, and thusly have me revise my opinion. No mafia remains pro town all game. It's practically impossible unless you have really stupid townies.

[cr3t1n]

y r u voting skrufffs
bcuz u dont no wat hes saying

i no wat hes saying its gud

It's like having an extended random phase which gets us nowhere.

ur rong

i fink raverblud is lurkin but forbiddanlite isnt lisenin
shes folowing evry1

vote:forbiddanligte

[cr3t1n]

Guys, he's acting jestery, like we all should be. Sheesh.

y

Well i'm not telling you. If you can't figure it out you must be a Jester!

y

Because Sharon den Adel said so!!!

Don't question it or you'll be squished like a bug!

l0l

[Kmd4390]

So a player with a mafia role is less likely to act "pro-town" than a player with a townie role is? Does this mean that the inexperienced players and lurkers are more likely to be mafia?

As people talk, they slip. For now, Jester seems townier. If he talked a bit more, he'd be more likely to slip if he's scum, and thusly have me revise my opinion. No mafia remains pro town all game. It's practically impossible unless you have really stupid townies.

I tend to agree with this for the most part. The only thing is...scum aren't the only players who "slip". Townies will say something that looks scummy, get called on that, and defend it horribly leading to a mislynch. I know I've done it.

[Kmd4390]

So a player with a mafia role is less likely to act "pro-town" than a player with a townie role is? Does this mean that the inexperienced players and lurkers are more likely to be mafia?

As people talk, they slip. For now, Jester seems townier. If he talked a bit more, he'd be more likely to slip if he's scum, and thusly have me revise my opinion. No mafia remains pro town all game. It's practically impossible unless you have really stupid townies.

I tend to agree with this for the most part. The only thing is...scum aren't the only players who "slip". Townies will say something that looks scummy, get called on that, and defend it horribly leading to a mislynch. I know I've done it.

mafia edit: Thinking back, I haven't been lynched that way but I have been very close.