BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Michael Scott]

I think I'm stronger in jjh!town as well right now. How about you?

[Venus and Mars]

It was an accidental quote.

Oh okay.

[Michael Scott]

I mean, one reason the game's this way is that we're not bringing anyone close to lynch range. Yeah I know this game isn't D1 but we seemingly have low info and maybe the consensus PoE isn't much reliable, but doing that could kickstart the game.

Vote RCE?

[Venus and Mars]

I think I'm stronger in jjh!town as well right now. How about you?

Yeah and Titus did shade him and agreed with Nom’s sr on him, so he doesn’t look like a Titus buddy.

Figuring out who I don’t want to lynch today, is a helluva lot easier than figuring out who I do.

[Venus and Mars]

I mean, one reason the game's this way is that we're not bringing anyone close to lynch range. Yeah I know this game isn't D1 but we seemingly have low info and maybe the consensus PoE isn't much reliable, but doing that could kickstart the game.

Vote RCE?

Do you think scum!RCE hardclaims town as scum?

[Michael Scott]

Why wouldn't he?

[Michael Scott]

I think I'm changing my mind on GeorgeBailey as well.

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler: Shitty theory and self-meta

So jjh actually did make one correct observation about me this game - that I was being mostly conflict avoidant, and not getting into people's faces. I don't know why he really left that though, considering that I wasn't actively pursuing conflicts (which is almost an opposite from my play in White Flag, which I think jjh is informed by).

I have been experimenting with playstyle changes after White Flag. In the recent Masons and Mafia open, I played a lot more socially than in WF. I was being aggressive, but at the same time, kept it conversational and smooth with players I was scumreading. I had a few conflicts, yeah, but was generally liked in a sense that enabled me to become effectively unlynchable in a game that lacked NKs, and letting me drive lynches (sadly losing the game ) on players I had called "99% town" earlier and still having them townread me. I also somewhat did this in a Mini Normal I replaced into around that time, by focusing energy into a slot or two at a time instead of attacking everywhere.

I also came across a post somewhere (maybe Mafia discussion?) that proffered one method of playing Mafia as developing townreads and lynching from PoE as effective. I decided I'd perhaps give this a shot (at one point I can't resist going aggro but anyway) and letting the game play while being a part of it without polarising things (a contributing reason was also my role). I don't think this really inhibits scumhunting - my previous method of relentless aggression worked >rand maybe, but I feel that this style is equally, if not more effective.

One effect of this seems to be scum disappointment at my getting townread, lol. Popsofctown made a number of posts complaining about how no one wanted to lynch me and that being a demotivating factor to her. Titus incidentally seemed to do the same here from early game - it's like scum expected I would hyperpost and polarize and start fights, and they could capitalize on that. I'm surprised I didn't pick up on what Nancy did about Titus calling me obvtown, good spot!

All that said, although we do have some form of a consensus PoE pool, the majority of activity recently has been a few town slots trying to get somewhere. I feel that given the strength of townreads that this bloc have for each other - in {Chk, Fonzie, V&M, Katz} etc for example, (yeah yeah Chk and Fonzie dislike V&M but still) scum feel comfortable letting the game just go along. I've seen scum lurk out previously but given the relative strength of this playerlist as town and scum, does that make too much sense?

I’m embarrassed I didn’t catch that on D1. If I had, I maybe wouldn’t have been so easily pocketed by her. Contradictory posting is one of the most effective ways of catching scum. That’s how we caught scum!sheep in Forrest Fire.

[Krazy Katz]

well do you wanna just sleep then? who the f do we lynch auro? LOL

-K

[Venus and Mars]

I think I'm changing my mind on GeorgeBailey as well.

From what to what?

I think Chk is probably right that she latched on to him as flailing scum to save herself. I don’t think she was trying to antispew him as a buddy. Titus is pretty survivalistic as scum and was probably really upset about the cop guilty on her.

[Venus and Mars]

well do you wanna just sleep then? who the f do we lynch auro? LOL

-K

I wish I knew but unless we get an extension, we currently have no consensus lynch.

[Michael Scott]

well do you wanna just sleep then?

Absolutely. Starting to feel overworked. My pinky finger's beginning to hurt now.

[Krazy Katz]

like what slots would you not *NOT* lynch?
-K

[Michael Scott]

{Conspiracy, JJH420, Fondue, Davy Jones, Venom and Misery, Krusty Krabz, BooneyTunzNoob}
Apart from Fondue who do you think shouldn't be there

[Michael Scott]

Oh add ChkFlip too

[Venus and Mars]

{Conspiracy, JJH420, Fondue, Davy Jones,[b{ Venom and Misery[/b], Krusty Krabz, BooneyTunzNoob}
Apart from Fondue who do you think shouldn't be there

Shiro probably doesn’t have a venomous bone in his entire body.

[Venus and Mars]

Oh add ChkFlip too

Chk is the only one not to get a creative moniker.

[Krazy Katz]

Krazy Katz - reminder -- uncc'd target of titus's n1 debuff
Venus and Mars - mars spewed town by titus
Chkflip - claim bullshit spews not scum kinda? maybe traitor or something worst case scenario?
Chronos -- think the push on titus day 1 town indicative
RCEnigma - liked one post from mechanic
BooneyToonzExpert -- think the role is probably not groupscum, best shot here would be 3p?
Sore feet - [bullshit reasons to townlean]

would lynch today line
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Michael Scott -- actually concerned about volxen ghosting you, wouldn't not lynch?
Davesaz - wouldn't not lynch, cop claim slightly townie but not enough to full clear; some interactions kinda okay for townish
George Bailey -- not sure the titus interaction really clears him, he kinda vanished recently, would lynch
Conspire - can't remember reasons not to lynch
Jjh927 -- would lynch
The Fonz - top lynch

I guess i'm like.... here

there's a lot of slots I would *eventually* lynch this game

and a lot of slots that for *reasons* are unappealing to lynch today

so what the fuck do we do

I think it's bad to just not lynch here

but I have no idea whatsoever how to get a consensus

-K

[Michael Scott]

Volxen's way too busy with the entire Corona thing
Also apart from that there'd be less chances of Volxen ghosting if we were scum actually

[Michael Scott]

RCEnigma - liked one post from mechanic

lol you know who Mechanic is?

[Krazy Katz]

RCEnigma - liked one post from mechanic

lol you know who Mechanic is?

no? who is mechanic?

[Michael Scott]

Struggling to see why that one post moves rce into your "don't lynch" pile, do you not get any impression from rce at all?

[davesaz]

Like, I don’t understand how he got from, tr both me and Chk but would lynch me over Chk, to having me in his POE. Auro said Fonz accounted for the shift but I couldn’t find it.

Dave, can you produce for us a reads list?
Some ordered ranking of players, no need for detail.

Why quote this post but ask me?
Yes in a few min.

[Krazy Katz]

he's okay dying which suggests he's close to a goon if he's scum

-K

[Venus and Mars]

Krazy Katz - reminder -- uncc'd target of titus's n1 debuff
Venus and Mars - mars spewed town by titus
Chkflip - claim bullshit spews not scum kinda? maybe traitor or something worst case scenario?
Chronos -- think the push on titus day 1 town indicative
RCEnigma - liked one post from mechanic
BooneyToonzExpert -- think the role is probably not groupscum, best shot here would be 3p?
Sore feet - [bullshit reasons to townlean]

would lynch today line
____
Michael Scott -- actually concerned about volxen ghosting you, wouldn't not lynch?
Davesaz - wouldn't not lynch, cop claim slightly townie but not enough to full clear; some interactions kinda okay for townish
George Bailey -- not sure the titus interaction really clears him, he kinda vanished recently, would lynch
Conspire - can't remember reasons not to lynch
Jjh927 -- would lynch
The Fonz - top lynch

I guess i'm like.... here

there's a lot of slots I would *eventually* lynch this game

and a lot of slots that for *reasons* are unappealing to lynch today

so what the fuck do we do

I think it's bad to just not lynch here

but I have no idea whatsoever how to get a consensus

-K

MS is town based off of nothing else then the way Titus tmi towned him after pushing him. Volxen ghosting is NAI, remember VG?

I agree and while I don’t share MS, Conspire and other’s confidence, can you tell me why you have Fonz as “top lynch”?