Mini Normal 2130: Mafia From Home [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

And honestly. The most important discussion to be having right now is: who are Zantetsu’s teammates. So if it’s not you, who are the last two according to yourself?

[Luca Blight]

You could say ‘why would Zant go through all that effort to protect Una D1’ - again, to look Town.

And it worked as I was Tr’ing him.

Norwegian, look back at Zant’s D1 protection of Una, and how much effort he put into it.

Why would he do that if Una is Town and he’s scum?

Why would he make a rational wall post about Una’s result?

To look Town.

[Luca Blight]

And honestly. The most important discussion to be having right now is: who are Zantetsu’s teammates. So if it’s not you, who are the last two according to yourself?

I haven’t even got around to thinking about it - I’ve been defending myself from being setup upon a Zant red flip.

I’ll have some food then get back to you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, all that aside here are the players I am leaning town on:

Luca
Norwegian
Egix
UnaBombaH
profii

Here are the players I am leaning scum on:

Anotora
Battle Mage
Churros

This is an important piece of info here. Dropping it so i can look at it later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d like it if as many people as possible could take a look at Zantetsu’s ISO and explain who they believe his teammates are. That would be the best way forward.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Based on interactions i don’t think Looker is a likely teammate. Not Churros either.
Riabi maybe.
Battle Mage and Una, obviously not.
72offsuit could be, especially if Luca is town.
Egix seems very likely. Luca too.
Anotora might be.

I’m not sure whether Zantetsu is the type that buzzes his teammates or not. Does anyone have a meta with this guy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Based on interactions i don’t think Looker is a likely teammate. Not Churros either.
Riabi maybe.
Battle Mage and Una, obviously not.
72offsuit could be, especially if Luca is town.
Egix seems very likely. Luca too.
Anotora might be.

I’m not sure whether Zantetsu is the type that buzzes his teammates or not. Does anyone have a meta with this guy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Based on interactions i don’t think Looker is a likely teammate. Not Churros either.
Riabi maybe.
Battle Mage and Una, obviously not.
72offsuit could be, especially if Luca is town.
Egix seems very likely. Luca too.
Anotora might be.

I’m not sure whether Zantetsu is the type that buzzes his teammates or not. Does anyone have a meta with this guy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh fuck. Damn lag made me post thrice.

[Luca Blight]

I can tell already you’re putting too much stock into ‘interactions’ of little value.

[Luca Blight]

There’s nothing to say any of them can’t be Zant’s partner, from what I can see.

Least likely is Riabi, I’d say, but there’s nothing much to be gleaned from the interactions themselves as none of those players were close to being lynched, and nothing meaningful happened.

I’ll be basing my SR’s off general play in this case.

[Luca Blight]

Looker, Churros, Egix, Anotora, 72.

Probably two scum in these five. Right now my gut is pulling me towards 72.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why is Riabi least likely?

[UnaBombaH]

Both Una and mage target Norwegian, then.

This was my initial idea too, but I think it would be better if we targeted two completely different players.
If the last scum is egix, scum!Luca would definitely want us to do it like this.
Likewise, if Norwegian is scum, he would want us to split our focus and then kill me so that we can't guilty him.

Guess it's better to really focus one slot and lock it down as something.

[Luca Blight]

Why is Riabi least likely?

I just TR him higher than the other slots.

Zant also ‘pushed’ Riabi’s lynch as we were wagoning Profii the second time, but that doesn’t count for much as Riabi was never getting lynched over Profii anyway.

[Luca Blight]

@una: I’m now back to thinking Norwegian is more likely Town, so feel free to both target Egix.

Egix should claim today, in that case.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Guess it's better to really focus one slot and lock it down as something.

Actually that might be best. You and BM either both target me, or target Egix. Or someone else for that matter.
But that guarantees that even if one of you dies, the other will get a result.
Thoughts?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Only problem then would be if scum has a roleblocker, but if that's the case then any strategy using you two would fail anyway.

[Luca Blight]

I just think reading too much in associations, unless the evidence is really damning, is a fool’s game. For decent scum players, muddying the associations is the easiest thing to do, and Zant is clearly a decent scum player.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just think reading too much in associations, unless the evidence is really damning, is a fool’s game. For decent scum players, muddying the associations is the easiest thing to do, and Zant is clearly a decent scum player.

You'd probably say the same thing if you were scum, but point taken.

[UnaBombaH]

Probably two scum in these five. Right now my gut is pulling me towards 72.

This is the only thing that gives some pause to my thoughts on scum!Luca.
I'd argue it's reasonable for the claimed hood to start suspecting each other around this time.

PTCop would get a "false" guilty on the scum who's in a neighborhood, and therefore not make it a 100% guilty on one town + give one scum a cover to work with.
My gut tells me that one of Luca/72 is likely scum.

And like said - for now I'd consider Norwegian town if/when Zantetsu flips scum.
The next move IMO is to lynch one of 72/Luca, unless there's a reads-based solve that actually makes sense to the majority.
Can't really plan further than that obviously.

[Luca Blight]

@Nor: I would, because it’s objectively true.

Remember when we were S/S that game? No-one thought we were partners, because we deliberately distanced.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well, as Una said. I still believe the best choice forward when Zantetsu flips scum. Barring any guilties from BM/Una. Is to lynch in Luca/72, it does seem very likely for it to be a S/T hood.

[Luca Blight]

And I’ve seen Town lose when a scum member is caught guilty early D2 when they weren’t previously suspected, and Town try to put together the pieces of the puzzle by associations, not realizing that they are worthless because the player in question was never under any pressure, and therefore never had their hand forced.

[Luca Blight]

I would agree to lynching 72 next.