micro 933 mysterybox hate death spiral.

[schadd_]

the earth will reject you.

Vote count 1.2

Morning Tweet (2):

Not_Mafia, Saladman27

bugspray (2):

Morning Tweet, Hectic

boring (1):

bugspray

not voting (4):

boring, Heaven, ceejayvinoya, shiki

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends april 28th at 12:00 central US time; in (expired on 2020-04-28 12:00:00)

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[bugspray]

is that lady gaga?

[shiki]

The thing is that I am not a visiting role so I do not know how this exactly works. Anyone know any roles or anything which makes other players visit someone else?

in mystery box 4:

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79728

the mafia would choose two players (at least one town) to put into a pt each night. once there, the players would jointly choose how to use a power role. the disease could possibly be spread in a similar way.

This happened because I was aware of the disease mechanic going on here and I don't know what to make of your ignorance towards that

we were each working with different sets of limited information. i knew that hectic was lying about being a neighbour and you knew that there was a disease mechanic. now that you know hectic and morning tweet are not actually neighbours, does that change your opinion of their early game voting behaviour?

I was informed about you and Morning Tweet being neighbours,

any chance you'd like to elaborate on this or share any other information you may have been informed of

shiki/Morning Tweet/bugspray, are there any vacancies in the neighbourhood so that I could hide there in the night? I'd arrive with a gift, buy my own groceries, and even send you a thank you note in exchange for your generosity.

hypothetically, if you were a vampire knocking on the door of our home which also happens to be a blood donation center, would you do so under the guise that you were looking to give blood in order to gain entrance?

shiki, you've played with them before, and were partly responsible for getting scum!bugspray lynched day 1. How does their play here compare so far?

bugspray made significantly less sense to me in micro 932 than here. however, from that game's mafia pt you can gleam that that was at least in part intentional. in the neighbourhood bugspray has made a couple of statements that could come from a scum perspective, but they have also appeared to be solving the game, if not exactly sorting alignments. i worry that setup speculation may be an easy way for mafia to appear to be solving if they are also not aware of the setup. however, i myself have no experience with designing or balancing a game, so bugspray's insight into that is potentially valuable to me.

Let me just say, I called it. I mentioned in our neighbourhood I believed Hectic's claim to be self-resolving once PRs mention if they have disease-related stuff in their roles or not. Since the issue is whether or not he's making this stuff up

in the neighbourhood you told us that you had no knowledge of anything disease related being in the game, yet when hectic claimed you immediately trusted him despite knowing the neighbour part of his claim was false. if someone makes a three-part claim, and you have the knowledge that one of them is false and not enough information to determine the likelihood of the other two parts, it is strange to me that you came to the conclusion that hectic was town and telling the truth about the rest of his claim. i know it is kinda unfair of me to be scumreading you for being right, but the mafia do know the alignment of the other players and are likely to believe their claims with less verification because they know their alignment.

Actually I kinda find it hard to believe that BOTH of my neighbours believe that the scumteam is me/Hectic. Which they mention suspecting us both constantly. Even now

hectic had knowledge of the neighbourhood. suspecting that one of my neighbours is partners with him if he is mafia seems correct.

[bugspray]

ok i might just pull a datisi/george and sheep shiki like you're luca

[Hectic]

, you have astounding posture. I have some questions.

1) What losecon could involve two mafia quickhammering you on day 1? What were you afraid of?
2) What changed between 80 and 110?

because i'm unsure about my hectic read but sure about my mt read

3) What was your Morning Tweet read? If it's in the neighbourhood, please paraphrase.

okay im not so sure anymore VOTE: boring

4) What changed with regards to Morning Tweet?

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, it must be really cold where you are.

any chance you'd like to elaborate on this or share any other information you may have been informed of

There's nothing else I'm informed about.

hypothetically, if you were a vampire knocking on the door of our home which also happens to be a blood donation center, would you do so under the guise that you were looking to give blood in order to gain entrance?

I would be transparent. I would offer to donate money in exchange for the blood in your possession. You can then use said money to hire me in order to find more blood for you. Sooo am I in?

bugspray made significantly less sense to me in micro 932 than here. however, from that game's mafia pt you can gleam that that was at least in part intentional. in the neighbourhood bugspray has made a couple of statements that could come from a scum perspective, but they have also appeared to be solving the game, if not exactly sorting alignments. i worry that setup speculation may be an easy way for mafia to appear to be solving if they are also not aware of the setup. however, i myself have no experience with designing or balancing a game, so bugspray's insight into that is potentially valuable to me.

Could you paraphrase the scum-perspective comments? Is there a reason you value bugspray's insight into designing/balancing games more than anyone else in this game?

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, I can't believe you immediately outed the fact you weren't in

another

neighbourhood with me. How could you?

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I'd love to hear

Saladman

,

boring

, and

Heaven

weigh in when they can. However, it is understandable if they're late due to to tying their shoe laces or the like.

[Hectic]

i am in a neighbourhood with morning tweet and bugspray

[shiki]

Could you paraphrase the scum-perspective comments? Is there a reason you value bugspray's insight into designing/balancing games more than anyone else in this game?

in one they said that this game the neighbourhood would be worse than in micro 932 because of an additional player in the neighbourhood and in the other they referred to a potential morning tweet lynch as a mislynch. bugspray has offered their insight into the setup of this game and they have previous experience modding and they are in my neighbourhood.

is this the losecon bugspray is worried about?

[Hectic]

is this the losecon bugspray is worried about?

[Morning Tweet]

I apologize Shiki, your reason for suspecting me makes sense

I thought my theory that Hectics claim will inevitably be validated or invalidated was pretty good so I treated it like truth until proven wrong. That's the best I can describe it prolly

I reread the thread without much success-- I'll see what NM, salad, heaven, etc have to say

[ceejayvinoya]

hectic had knowledge of the neighbourhood. suspecting that one of my neighbours is partners with him if he is mafia seems correct.

Scum!Hectic being informed about the neighborhood seems pretty useless if his partner is in the neighborhood anyway

Unless he's lying about that too

[shiki]

Scum!Hectic being informed about the neighborhood seems pretty useless if his partner is in the neighborhood anyway

wouldn't one assume he was informed of the neighbourhood by his partner?

[ceejayvinoya]

Unless he's lying about that too

[shiki]

now that you know hectic and morning tweet are not actually neighbours, does that change your opinion of their early game voting behaviour?

[ceejayvinoya]

Why would town!Hectic be informed about only two people in the neighborhood? Why not all three? Why not just the existence of it?

[ceejayvinoya]

now that you know hectic and morning tweet are not actually neighbours, does that change your opinion of their early game voting behaviour?

I can see now why you were suspicious of it earlier. If I had known what you know earlier my opinion would be very different. It does look weird, especially so that they supposedly don't have a pt

[Morning Tweet]

Why would town!Hectic be informed about only two people in the neighborhood? Why not all three? Why not just the existence of it?

What does the number of members he knows have to do with him being town or not?

[shiki]

Why would town!Hectic be informed about only two people in the neighborhood? Why not all three? Why not just the existence of it?

creates built in wifom with regards to the alignment of the non-included party.

[bugspray]

okay you know what im going to go with the policy of if someone spreads wifom that hurts town more than scum then they are just trying to get us drunk on sour wine
VOTE: hectic

[bugspray]

wrt setup spec its worth mentioning that i more or less called the setup during the previus mystery box after the scum pr slipped

[shiki]

i am wondering how the game was supposed to function if saladman or boring or not mafia or heaven rolled hectic's role. i am also wondering if one of the aforementioned rolled a similar role.

[bugspray]

speaking of nm looks like he's due for a prod

[Hectic]

, you have astounding posture. I have some questions.

1) What losecon could involve two mafia quickhammering you on day 1? What were you afraid of?
2) What changed between 80 and 110?

because i'm unsure about my hectic read but sure about my mt read

3) What was your Morning Tweet read? If it's in the neighbourhood, please paraphrase.

okay im not so sure anymore VOTE: boring

4) What changed with regards to Morning Tweet?

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[shiki]

maybe the mafia doesn't have a pt?

I'd love to hear

Saladman

,

boring

, and

Heaven

weigh in when they can.

I'll see what NM, salad, heaven, etc have to say

VOTE: morning tweet

[bugspray]

, you have astounding posture. I have some questions.

1) What losecon could involve two mafia quickhammering you on day 1? What were you afraid of?
2) What changed between 80 and 110?

because i'm unsure about my hectic read but sure about my mt read

3) What was your Morning Tweet read? If it's in the neighbourhood, please paraphrase.

okay im not so sure anymore VOTE: boring

4) What changed with regards to Morning Tweet?

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1 i already said losecon is a misnomer that was just brain worm
2 im not gonna read that shit rn
3 i think tweet has been very sus and is in my lynchpool
4 nothing really i just think hectic is worse

my pool is tweet + hectic and im pretty sure after tweet dies shiki and i will have a de facto masonry
VOTE: morning tweet

[bugspray]

2 basically i found out the tweet hood was a lie