Open 775: Hard-Boiled Eggs [Game Over]

[72offsuit]

Z y does the quote have my name instead of Hiraki's

[72offsuit]

Unintentional pagetop... Shucks, Im a natural talent

[72offsuit]

Need more votes on Hiraki.

[72offsuit]

VOTE: 72

VOTE: BM

What's up with this?
Big spiel on BM and yhen you voted me?

[72offsuit]

What of the above do I do exclusively with you that I don't do with other people?

So you admit it?

Spoiler:

All this sounds like you don't want to be held accountable for your actions. You get to keep tunneling me while avoiding Allomancer and 72offsuit and blaming it on "bad reads". You're scum.

You haven't justified or explained your Looker "read". When asked to do so, you become disgruntled. Is this your interpretation of a power wolf?

Also, regarding lack of content: You actively disengage with me. You ask me no questions and don't answer any of the questions I ask you. Your ~case on me is manufactured.

Just because you NK'd Madoka for WIFOM doesn't mean you're some scum mastermind - you're going to have to try harder than that

Once again, though, I refuse to let you detract me from your partner. It didn't work with Allomancer, and it won't work with 72offsuit.

from the first lynch: one of 72/Looker is probably scum. I don't expect all 3 scum on the first town wagon but I would be weirded out if it was just one scum.

I also see where you get one of me/72 is scum now too, I guess. At least a little harder.

The irrelevance of you being "weirded out" aside, why would you choose a 50% chance of Looker being scum instead of 72 over a 100% chance of 72 being scum instead of Looker or yourself? The odds point to 72 scum, but you're actively protecting him the way you tried to protect Allomancer.

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• @Aloratom: I feel your thinking is why bussing is so effective. Of course 72 is going to argue that he can't be scum because of what he did; I don't see how that's alignment-indicative.

1.What is with the percentages, where ate you deriving these?

2. "The odds point to 72 scum"
What "odds" are you referring to?

[72offsuit]

Ebwop: are*

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: 72

VOTE: BM

What's up with this?
Big spiel on BM and yhen you voted me?

I know right, what a douche!

[Battle Mage]

@Aloratom: I feel your thinking is why bussing is so effective. Of course 72 is going to argue that he can't be scum because of what he did; I don't see how that's alignment-indicative.

What do you think about Ico's read on BattleMage?

why would anyone care about his read? he's scum dude...

[Battle Mage]

and to that point, i'm town and nobody gives a crap about my reads...

I don't believe any half decent townie could seriously think I'm scum here. but I can understand people ignoring my reads coz I do suck haha

[72offsuit]

What of the above do I do exclusively with you that I don't do with other people?

So you admit it?

Spoiler:

All this sounds like you don't want to be held accountable for your actions. You get to keep tunneling me while avoiding Allomancer and 72offsuit and blaming it on "bad reads". You're scum.

You haven't justified or explained your Looker "read". When asked to do so, you become disgruntled. Is this your interpretation of a power wolf?

Also, regarding lack of content: You actively disengage with me. You ask me no questions and don't answer any of the questions I ask you. Your ~case on me is manufactured.

Just because you NK'd Madoka for WIFOM doesn't mean you're some scum mastermind - you're going to have to try harder than that

Once again, though, I refuse to let you detract me from your partner. It didn't work with Allomancer, and it won't work with 72offsuit.

from the first lynch: one of 72/Looker is probably scum. I don't expect all 3 scum on the first town wagon but I would be weirded out if it was just one scum.

I also see where you get one of me/72 is scum now too, I guess. At least a little harder.

The irrelevance of you being "weirded out" aside, why would you choose a 50% chance of Looker being scum instead of 72 over a 100% chance of 72 being scum instead of Looker or yourself? The odds point to 72 scum, but you're actively protecting him the way you tried to protect Allomancer.

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• @Aloratom: I feel your thinking is why bussing is so effective. Of course 72 is going to argue that he can't be scum because of what he did; I don't see how that's alignment-indicative.

From your posts, i get the impression you scumread Hiraki moreso than myself. But your vote is on me.
1. What's the go there?

2. What are your thoughts on BM?

[Battle Mage]

why battle mage is allomancer partner:

in 131 it really feels like BM is calling out to his partner to put out some better posts, and maybe get into an early 1v1 with him.

208 first attempt at destabilizing allo wagon 'surely there's scum on'

336 soft townreading and defending allo

In reality, I think it's hard to read too much into this yet - probably worth picking this up tomorrow, or at least when we know what Allomancer is -

who knows, maybe Dkkoba can confirm him as town

?

trying to bait the hider onto allomancer

The very fact that this shenanigans has resulted in wagons on me (town) and

Allomancer (based on evidence so far, could easily be town

), when presumably nobody has any intent on lynching, and so the wagons are completely meaningless, achieves what exactly?

defending allomancer who's town 'because evidence'
also really downplaying the wagon and push on him

In terms of the actual comment - yes I'm quite OBVIOUSLY trying to get Dk to reveal who he visited, which is 100% in the town's interest

remember this intent from BM, you probably know where i'm going with this

I've broken my own rule and

done an ISO of Allomancer. He could be scum

. Not a cert, but a good possibility. Plus he surely can't be confirmed town, otherwise even Dkkoba would have said.Vote: Allomancer

this quickhammer happened at a time where dkkoba started pushing into battle mage, and also shut down any chance dkkoba had of clearing his target
the way he went around his townpushing of allomancer: 'oh but now i've actually read his posts, yeah this can be scum' is just faked imo

if someone is genuinely townreading battle mage, talk to me and either convince me of town!BM or join me in lynching this

ah when I did the -1 vote yesterday, I'd come to terms with the fact that Dkkoba wasn't going to be wise enough to claim. If only he had listened to me, eh?

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch

Give our tracker the best chance.

[72offsuit]

@Aloratom: I feel your thinking is why bussing is so effective. Of course 72 is going to argue that he can't be scum because of what he did; I don't see how that's alignment-indicative.

What do you think about Ico's read on BattleMage?

why would anyone care about his read? he's scum dude...

This doesn't come from a town mindset either.
1. The confidence in the read does not feel genuine
2. From your PoV, getting opinions from others on your suspected scum target,
would provide valuable information regarding the alignment of the person reading your scumread.

[72offsuit]

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch

Give our tracker the best chance.

Why did you not reply earlier when i asked re: lynch or no lynch?

[Battle Mage]

@Aloratom: I feel your thinking is why bussing is so effective. Of course 72 is going to argue that he can't be scum because of what he did; I don't see how that's alignment-indicative.

What do you think about Ico's read on BattleMage?

why would anyone care about his read? he's scum dude...

This doesn't come from a town mindset either.
1. The confidence in the read does not feel genuine
2. From your PoV, getting opinions from others on your suspected scum target,
would provide valuable information regarding the alignment of the person reading your scumread.

I'm not my own suspected scum target, what the hell is wrong with you?

Your reads are no Bueno my friend...

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch

Give our tracker the best chance.

Why did you not reply earlier when i asked re: lynch or no lynch?

I said earlier I liked the idea? don't know what else you're referring to?

[Battle Mage]

Anyway, to note I'm

V/LA for the next couple days

. I'll probably post a bit, but nothing substantive as work is too busy! #keyworker

[Hiraki]

"Great position to take the W" (win)
after 2 town died in 1 night, down 2 PRs, and we are at awkward 6v2.

This is not coming from a town mindset.

Read the entire quote ffs

[Almost50]

Is Tet out of reach still? I got prodded waiting for him to tell me where to vote. The way I see it myself is everybody's pointing fingers at each other and I have no clue who is genuine and who is faking. I think Tet knows this roster better than I and thus want to work with him (and I obviously TR him here).

@Those who say sheeping is stupid, spare me your wisdom. I'm a monkey FGS. You OTH are just a HUMAN.

[Aloratom]

Right now I've got Tet, Ico, Almost50 as Town.

Battle Mage, Looker, Hiraki, 72offsuit not sure yet, but that's where both mafia are. Battle Mage could be the missing link.

[Aloratom]

why battle mage is allomancer partner:

in 131 it really feels like BM is calling out to his partner to put out some better posts, and maybe get into an early 1v1 with him.

208 first attempt at destabilizing allo wagon 'surely there's scum on'

336 soft townreading and defending allo

In reality, I think it's hard to read too much into this yet - probably worth picking this up tomorrow, or at least when we know what Allomancer is -

who knows, maybe Dkkoba can confirm him as town

?

trying to bait the hider onto allomancer

The very fact that this shenanigans has resulted in wagons on me (town) and

Allomancer (based on evidence so far, could easily be town

), when presumably nobody has any intent on lynching, and so the wagons are completely meaningless, achieves what exactly?

defending allomancer who's town 'because evidence'
also really downplaying the wagon and push on him

In terms of the actual comment - yes I'm quite OBVIOUSLY trying to get Dk to reveal who he visited, which is 100% in the town's interest

remember this intent from BM, you probably know where i'm going with this

I've broken my own rule and

done an ISO of Allomancer. He could be scum

. Not a cert, but a good possibility. Plus he surely can't be confirmed town, otherwise even Dkkoba would have said.Vote: Allomancer

this quickhammer happened at a time where dkkoba started pushing into battle mage, and also shut down any chance dkkoba had of clearing his target
the way he went around his townpushing of allomancer: 'oh but now i've actually read his posts, yeah this can be scum' is just faked imo

if someone is genuinely townreading battle mage, talk to me and either convince me of town!BM or join me in lynching this

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

And I echo post 118 - Hiraki, what are you talking about?

Allomancer - do you still not have any reads? I got the sense you might have a scumread on me, as I'm the only person you've come close to indicating suspicion of.

Dkkoba - Apologies on the pronoun thing - It's not something I've ever really paid attention to, but will try to remember if it bothers you.

This questioning of Allom gives me a fake/forced/pre-prepared vibe. Getting a scum-scum vibe from this interaction.
Allom already outed some superficial reads after i pressed him.

I think that's because I'm having fun! It was pre-prepared in the sense that I thought about it before I posted it (as is the case surprisingly often!).

The second time I asked was sort of a rhetorical question - hence the winky face emoji! His "superficial reads" did not really indicate much suspicion of anyone, which is why I tried to prompt him a bit, whilst also pointing out that he had been pretty non-committal.

In better news, you might be half-right if Allom is scum!

If BM is scum, does that cut 72 out, or could this be SvSvS?

[Iconeum]

what i mean by not getting it is: why am i placed over basicly the entire playerlist if you think i could be scum THAT easily still

Because ive got very few town vibes from you throughout so far.

ok but you haven't exactly been the shining beacon of Towniness either

[Iconeum]

72 bad readlist can be explained by town who just don't know where they are

Why are you calling it bad?
I might be right with hiraki and BM.
Sure theres not a lot of substance, but sometimes.... All you need is gut... Gut... Gut is all you need...

because the lack of progress in trying to *actively* lynch me yesterday into being on the top of your townreads while also calling I could easily be scum and the relation to other players

not bad because you are wrong, but bad because you put me at the top, and then when the one at the bottom (BM) calls you out on it, you simply agree with your scumread and say i might be scum so yeah

not sure i'm making sense but... it's what I feel

[Iconeum]

Unvote, Vote: No Lynch

Give our tracker the best chance.

there is

exactly

0.000000% chance we are going to no lynch today

unless scum have control of the game

[Iconeum]

we just came off of a scum lynch, if we abandon our lynch we abandon our chance at catching associatives and are *hoping* that our tracker not only guesses the scumteam, but also gets lucky in hitting the right scum performing the kill

if later in the game a no lynch is optimal, sure

today is not that day