BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:37 pm

Cool, Chk still isn’t scum.

I want to hear from both BTE and RCE but I think him sending me the feather was scummy until I hear otherwise.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:39 pm

In post 5749, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5671, Michael Scott wrote:RCE, confirm that you sent it? And wanna tell us why you sent it to Nancy?
Pretty sure Nancy wants to post and wouldn't risk calling it fake for the post restriction.

Only other choice was bte but I didn't want him to try and Gambit calling it fake to get out of discussion between me/him being the last lynch options.

Have you been reading my posts? I straight up claimed you sent it, so wtf are you talking about my faking a post restriction?

VOTE: RCE

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:42 pm

In post 5754, Michael Scott wrote:I think Bte > RCE > KK/Chkflip

Titus/Krazy interacions spew him town. Titus doesn’t talk about Krazy like that as a buddy. Plus, SF jinglebelled him.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 5758, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5755, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5749, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5671, Michael Scott wrote:RCE, confirm that you sent it? And wanna tell us why you sent it to Nancy?
Pretty sure Nancy wants to post and wouldn't risk calling it fake for the post restriction.

Only other choice was bte but I didn't want him to try and Gambit calling it fake to get out of discussion between me/him being the last lynch options.
Have you been reading my posts? I straight up claimed you sent it, so wtf are you talking about my faking a post restriction?

VOTE: RCE
Nancy, read. Read Nancy. Read, Nancy. Nancy read. Read. Nancy.

You said I’m trying to fake a post restriction? So, do you think BTE is scum then?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:44 pm

UNVOTE:

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:51 pm

In post 5766, Krazy Katz wrote: Scum did not confirm I jinglebelled them, no

ALSO, did u know xtoxm made that same argument the FIRST time scum debuffed me?

Rce y r u paraphrasing scum arguments lol

What didn’t I understand @RCE? I still don’t understand why you would send feather to me.

And no, we’re not lynching Krazy so I don’t understand why you doubt his claim?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:52 pm

In post 5767, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5763, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5758, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5755, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5749, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5671, Michael Scott wrote:RCE, confirm that you sent it? And wanna tell us why you sent it to Nancy?
Pretty sure Nancy wants to post and wouldn't risk calling it fake for the post restriction.

Only other choice was bte but I didn't want him to try and Gambit calling it fake to get out of discussion between me/him being the last lynch options.
Have you been reading my posts? I straight up claimed you sent it, so wtf are you talking about my faking a post restriction?

VOTE: RCE
Nancy, read. Read Nancy. Read, Nancy. Nancy read. Read. Nancy.
You said I’m trying to fake a post restriction? So, do you think BTE is scum then?
You guys asked why I sent it to you and not someone else.

I sent it to you because you wouldn't risk the post restriction attached to it.

How is that denying I sent you the feather? I literally claimed yesterday that's what I do.

Okay but why even send it at all? It’s not compulsory or anything?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:55 pm

In post 5767, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5763, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5758, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5755, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5749, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5671, Michael Scott wrote:RCE, confirm that you sent it? And wanna tell us why you sent it to Nancy?
Pretty sure Nancy wants to post and wouldn't risk calling it fake for the post restriction.

Only other choice was bte but I didn't want him to try and Gambit calling it fake to get out of discussion between me/him being the last lynch options.
Have you been reading my posts? I straight up claimed you sent it, so wtf are you talking about my faking a post restriction?

VOTE: RCE
Nancy, read. Read Nancy. Read, Nancy. Nancy read. Read. Nancy.
You said I’m trying to fake a post restriction? So, do you think BTE is scum then?
You guys asked why I sent it to you and not someone else.

I sent it to you because you wouldn't risk the post restriction attached to it.

How is that denying I sent you the feather? I literally claimed yesterday that's what I do.

I claimed it before Auro posted what it did, so I didn’t even realize I could have been post restricted, until AFTER I already claimed it.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:56 pm

In post 5773, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5769, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5766, Krazy Katz wrote: Scum did not confirm I jinglebelled them, no

ALSO, did u know xtoxm made that same argument the FIRST time scum debuffed me?

Rce y r u paraphrasing scum arguments lol
What didn’t I understand @RCE? I still don’t understand why you would send feather to me.

And no, we’re not lynching Krazy so I don’t understand why you doubt his claim?

In post 5770, Michael Scott wrote:RCE why send it at all?
I could easily have been lying about my role. Sending it makes it tangible and Nancy would definitely out it.

I don’t think anyone thought you were lying about your role. It sounded completely believable to me but okay.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:57 pm

In post 5775, Michael Scott wrote:I mean but it's not like you'd Go "it's not real" anyway

I actually wonder why Boon would think ANYONE would.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:00 pm

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:04 pm

VOTE: Scumfish

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:52 pm

In post 5782, Krazy Katz wrote:1.03 V&M town
1.05 RCE town
1.08 Krazy Katz town

1.09 interesting vote count

Yeah, the 3 RCE votes and 2 of them scum.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:53 pm

In post 5784, Krazy Katz wrote:UNVOTE:

guess I'll hold off on a hyperfast speed hammer for just a minute while I finish reviewing vca lol

UNVOTE:

We should at least wait for him to post.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:55 pm

In post 5791, Michael Scott wrote:Krazy why do you think you're "naked town"
Towncase yourself pl0x

Krazy is town because of Titus’ interactions. I made a post about that.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 5794, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5791, Michael Scott wrote:Krazy why do you think you're "naked town"
Towncase yourself pl0x
Krazy is town because of Titus’ interactions. I made a post about that.

In the extremely remote non-existent universe I’m wrong about this, we’ve already lost because I can’t see anyway he’s ever scum here.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:59 pm

@Auro,do you seriously think scum!Krazy claims a “no results” on Titus but doesn’t hesitate to lynch there?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:04 pm

In post 1584, Titus wrote:VOTE: BTE

I'm working off my chkflip panicking theory here. I don't have a solid TR on BTE, so I'm ok voting here for now. Let's see what happens.

Hmmm

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:12 pm

In post 5798, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 5796, Venus and Mars wrote:@Auro,do you seriously think scum!Krazy claims a “no results” on Titus but doesn’t hesitate to lynch there?
To muddle the guilty, and then continue to vote when town doesn't really flinch?
Why not?

But Amrun was extremely clear about wanting to lynch Titus, so I don’t see the point. Amrun didn’t hesitate. The “no results” had no impact on her vote.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:22 pm

In post 3984, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2982, Titus wrote:
In post 2979, Krazy Katz wrote:When did I say you were ascetic? I said I got no result.

~Amrun
Then the logical conclusion is roleblocked not guilty, particularly when someone else already has a fake guilty on me. Yet, you jumped to the scum conclusion implying I was ascetic.

In post 2986, Titus wrote:
In post 2985, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 2982, Titus wrote:
In post 2979, Krazy Katz wrote:When did I say you were ascetic? I said I got no result.

~Amrun
Then the logical conclusion is roleblocked not guilty, particularly when someone else already has a fake guilty on me. Yet, you jumped to the scum conclusion implying I was ascetic.
What?

Why would me being roleblocked mean you were not guilty? How are those related?

I got some strange virus thing that totally mutated my role. I have no idea how that interacts with my results. It is the logical conclusion that my results are unreliable vs nomnom.

~Amrun
Then why are you voting as if your results matter rather than just blocked.

Why aren't you suspecting the guy who claimed the same role as you?

In post 2995, Titus wrote:
In post 2991, Venus and Mars wrote:But damn 3 night 1 cops, I am kinda lost in what is going on here.

~Venus
The one cop that got a result is fucked with.

Krazy should claim their prize btw.
@Conspire, none of these read like buddy posts to me.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:25 pm

In post 5803, Conspire wrote:Does final day mean there’s one last scum?

~Esper

I’m assuming so.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:32 pm

In post 5785, Krazy Katz wrote:Trying to look for anything that would make it not transparently BTE and not seeing anything

chk doesn't look great either tbh, RCE looks a bit better by comparison

@Auro, tell me why scum!Krazy makes this post.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 5816, Conspire wrote:
In post 5807, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5803, Conspire wrote:Does final day mean there’s one last scum?

~Esper
Yeah

Do you wanna confirm you have an inno on Michael so I don't have to think about his slot
Ok since we’re going all in today, I can confirm. We had a loyal neighbourising shot and used it d2/3 (cant remember) on him. It got through.

~Esper

So Auro is IC, good. Titus/Krazy posts don’t look like buddies to me.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:39 pm

@BTE, can you just concede and end this game?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:41 pm

In post 5820, Conspire wrote:I’ve got a pretty solid TR on VM, KK and chkflip feel like town, so it’s just between BTE/RCE. Because yesterday’s letter thing it’s maybe not RCE unless Chronos actually slipped in real scum to make jjh trust “her”? Idk

~Esper

Yeah, I’m not lynching today outside of those two slots. Auro is probably just paranoing on Krazy.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:42 pm

In post 5823, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5820, Conspire wrote:I’ve got a pretty solid TR on VM, KK and chkflip feel like town, so it’s just between BTE/RCE. Because yesterday’s letter thing it’s maybe not RCE unless Chronos actually slipped in real scum to make jjh trust “her”? Idk

~Esper
Yeah, I’m not lynching today outside of those two slots. Auro is probably just paranoing on Krazy.

And if game doesn’t end today, I’ll lynch the other one before I look elsewhere.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 5827, Michael Scott wrote:Nancy so is your fruit still normie fruit or did Boon update that to Royal Fruit as well?

Just regular fruit. Didn’t you say jjh was out of shots?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:48 pm

In post 5825, chkflip wrote:BTE busfucking Chronos makes sense if his role can magically push us into lylo super early.

Is it LYLO? I interpreted it as only one scum left.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:50 pm

In post 5837, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 5832, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5827, Michael Scott wrote:Nancy so is your fruit still normie fruit or did Boon update that to Royal Fruit as well?
Just regular fruit. Didn’t you say jjh was out of shots?
He was, but still

It’s interesting that both RCE and BTE targeted me.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:55 pm

In post 5840, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5835, Michael Scott wrote:I'm saying you're just *claiming* to have gotten the macho debuff at least, how can that be verifiable?
It's day a million and there's no CCs on either action

Auro you're better than this LOL

I bet money game ends with both BTE and RCE flips and I liked RCE’s reasoning for sending me the feather. That said, I want to have whatever Boon was smoking when he created RCE’s role.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 5842, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 5840, Krazy Katz wrote:Auro you're better than this LOL
Sorry I'm such a disappointment?

Dayspank Auro

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:29 pm

In post 5845, Michael Scott wrote:I am betting 100 from my Krazybucks reserve to my personal paranoia pet solve of Krazy mastermind.

I match your 100 Krazybucks and raise you 200 more, that you’re wrong.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:32 pm

In post 5856, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5821, Venus and Mars wrote:@BTE, can you just concede and end this game?
Et tu, Brute?

Sorry but you know, PoE. <3

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:33 pm

In post 5858, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5852, Krazy Katz wrote:BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?
Did you get any fruit last night?

Can you send it out to more than one player at a time?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:34 pm

In post 5866, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5865, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5856, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5821, Venus and Mars wrote:@BTE, can you just concede and end this game?
Et tu, Brute?
Sorry but you know, PoE. <3
Then PoE is worthless.

We have to lynch someone. If you’re not scum, who is?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:36 pm

In post 5869, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5867, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5858, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5852, Krazy Katz wrote:BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?
Did you get any fruit last night?
Can you send it out to more than one player at a time?
I sent to 3 people last night

V&M
jjh
Krazy Katz

Well since multitasking is an option, nothing about that confirms you town.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:38 pm

In post 5870, Michael Scott wrote:If BTE says it's fake to get a posting restriction then quicklynch him

BTE you said something about neighborising people?

I seriously think Boon was higher than a boatload of helium, when he created that role.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:39 pm

In post 5873, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5871, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5869, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5867, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5858, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5852, Krazy Katz wrote:BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?
Did you get any fruit last night?
Can you send it out to more than one player at a time?
I sent to 3 people last night

V&M
jjh
Krazy Katz
Well since multitasking is an option, nothing about that confirms you town.
Because you KNOW I'm town.

How could I possibly “KNOW” your alignment?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:41 pm

In post 5875, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Also, I guess at this stage I can announce I have the antique bullet.

What is the “antique bullet”?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:44 pm

In post 5880, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5878, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 5873, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Because you KNOW I'm town.
or are you accusing Nancy of being scum lol
No, Nancy
knew
I was town the moment my main got outed.

Yes, I did have a strong tr on you then but everyone is literally confirmed except for you and RCE and Krazy’s VCA doesn’t make him look like a buddy. So, tell me who you think is scum?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:47 pm

In post 5880, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5878, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 5873, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Because you KNOW I'm town.
or are you accusing Nancy of being scum lol
No, Nancy
knew
I was town the moment my main got outed.

I tr you because the pocket didn’t seem suspicious coming from you but that’s not enough to remove you from my PoE.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:48 pm

In post 5887, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:I hve been VCAing all game with no one really taking it serious so I stopped. Mr. Katz jumps in with VCA and it's all WOW! We have solved the game!

Who said we did? I strongly expect the game to end after both you and RCE flips, if not sooner.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:58 pm

In post 5891, chkflip wrote:Seems the fish is...

*puts shades on*

...out of water.

YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:00 pm

In post 5892, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5889, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5887, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:I hve been VCAing all game with no one really taking it serious so I stopped. Mr. Katz jumps in with VCA and it's all WOW! We have solved the game!
Yeah last game you had the isssue of only looking at EoD VCA which is not how VCA works
I also took into account associations from flipped scum this game. But it''s all skwed now.

If I took VCA into accoutn for my vote it wouild most likely point to RCE.
If RCE didn't rep into this game I would hardTR in that slot for some reason. The fact that he repped in makes my read on RCE too gray.

Lolwut?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:02 pm

In post 5897, Michael Scott wrote:oh, so an antique gun shoots "Boonie looking bullets"
but antique bullet is a different thing?

lol

“Boonie looking bullets”? Lmfao

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:03 pm

In post 5903, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5902, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5892, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5889, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5887, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:I hve been VCAing all game with no one really taking it serious so I stopped. Mr. Katz jumps in with VCA and it's all WOW! We have solved the game!
Yeah last game you had the isssue of only looking at EoD VCA which is not how VCA works
I also took into account associations from flipped scum this game. But it''s all skwed now.

If I took VCA into accoutn for my vote it wouild most likely point to RCE.
If RCE didn't rep into this game I would hardTR in that slot for some reason. The fact that he repped in makes my read on RCE too gray.
Lolwut?
As you said, I am the RCE Whisperer.

Only when you’re town.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:04 pm

In post 5900, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5391, Venus and Mars wrote:If SF got an item and jjh did not, that likely confirms SF and jjh to be different allignments. This holds true whether or not BTE is town with a disloyal fruit or scum with a loyal.
This applies to you and Krazy Katz now.

???

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:06 pm

In post 5906, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Nancy, I am so close to bringing your favorite word "if" into this game.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:09 pm

In post 5906, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Nancy, I am so close to bringing your favorite word "if" into this game.

Fine, “if” but his entrance sounded a lot townier than yours.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:12 pm

In post 5913, chkflip wrote:Y'all are acting like we're not in lylo rn and it fucking shows.

Pedit: get off my fucking dick, homie. I claimed that already. Jesus Christ.

The game only ends if we lynch scum. How is that LYLO?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:25 pm

In post 5917, chkflip wrote:
In post 5659, Boonskiies wrote:
Conspire
is
Loved
.

ClimaxAn immense amount of Arcane power has emitted from underneath the ground.

We have entered a

possible
FINAL DAY situation. Anyone Loved or Hated will not have it affect them this phase.
What about FINAL DAY situation tells you this isn't lylo?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:27 pm

In post 5927, chkflip wrote:
In post 5919, Michael Scott wrote:Possible final day not certainly final day
Right, which implies that if we don't lynch scum... what happens?

We mislynch and the game continues?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:28 pm

In post 5929, chkflip wrote:WHAT ELSE IS A POSSIBLE FINAL DAY SITUATION

WHAT ELSE DOES THAT IMPLY

That there’s only one scum left and if we lynch correctly, the game will end.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:30 pm

In post 5934, Krazy Katz wrote:So we lynch bte to avoid arson scenario as the only slot that has targeted basically everyone?

RCE’s entrance was townier. The only thing that gave me pause, was that “if” post but his RCE slot read, made absolutely no sense.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:34 pm

In post 5938, Krazy Katz wrote:Yeah 1 scum + 1 arson probably explains gamestate note

Well, it makes the most sense to lynch whomever could be the arsonist obviously and that’s BTE, right?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:35 pm

In post 5939, chkflip wrote:BTE seems more arson than scum.

RCE seems more scum than arson.

We should probably go BTE first tbh.

Why does RCE seem scummier to you? but yeah, BTE is the safer lynch in either case.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:36 pm

VOTE: BooneyTunezExpert

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:38 pm

In post 5942, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5939, chkflip wrote:BTE seems more arson than scum.

RCE seems more scum than arson.

We should probably go BTE first tbh.
Why does RCE seem scummier to you? but yeah, BTE is the safer lynch in either case.

In post 5938, Krazy Katz wrote:Yeah 1 scum + 1 arson probably explains gamestate note

Nm, I figured it out. BTE is SK and if game doesn’t end, it’s because RCE is last scum.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:40 pm

In post 5944, chkflip wrote:He seems likelier to be linked to the scum team than BTE.

Meaning if BTE is scum then he's 3p scum.

Yeah, that explains the lack of Titus’ associatives. @Krazy, doesn’t this sound like Shoshin’s role in SC1?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:39 pm

In post 5989, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 5988, Michael Scott wrote:And Nancy/jjh/KK were your top suspects BTE?
You had an ability that could test alignments of anyone who voted you, and you sent fruit to Nancy, jjh, KK?
A mixture of all. If they are town then it won't hurt them.

Lol, what is this game?

Were you trying to test me or protect me? I thought you said on D1, I was “confitown”? But whatever.

UNVOTE:

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:41 pm

I do find it difficult to believe this is some weird fake role BEF concocted.

He sounds way too sincere for it to be faked,

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:42 pm

In post 5992, Michael Scott wrote:If BTE's claim is true:
We lynch RCE today
V&M passes fruit to Krazy tonight
Chk claimed fruit right? keeps it
Krazy and Chk both vote BTE tomorrow and the rest then hammer.

I thought Krazy already had one?

Can you explain the ordering of this?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:44 pm

In post 5994, Michael Scott wrote:Also, one of the Boonus players should be BTE, IMO

Alright but I’d like to be in this one, so which one of you and Krazy to I remove then?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:47 pm

Okay, no one hammer yet. I will vote RCE as soon as I redo the Br picks.

So, I want to play in one Br, so BTE, me and ?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:49 pm

@Krazy, did you receive a fruit from BEF or not and if not, should I send you mine?

If RCE ends the game, I’m a freaking genius.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:50 pm

Perhaps, I should pick Conspire again? They are almost certain to be the NK and this is an even night,

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:51 pm

In post 6005, Venus and Mars wrote:Perhaps, I should pick Conspire again? They are almost certain to be the NK and this is an even night,

So, we need to deBoon the Br, just in case right?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:52 pm

Okay, BEF, me, Conspire.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:59 pm

In post 6008, Venus and Mars wrote:Okay, BEF, me, Conspire.

Done.

VOTE: RCE

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:06 pm

In post 6011, Michael Scott wrote:Conspire/Me either of us is fine, we basically have a Masonry ourselves

I want a chance to play one.

So, you guys can talk without the Br.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:10 pm

In post 6015, Michael Scott wrote:Yup, I meant we're interchangeable anyway, as long as you have at least one of me and Conspire it's good

True, one of you will be the NK. Maybe I should pick you, because you can tell me what to do.

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:14 pm

In post 6018, Michael Scott wrote:I have a hood with Conspire, right? I'll talk to you through that!

Do you not want to be in it then? Should I switch it back to Conspire?

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:15 pm

I’m kind of sad, I didn’t get to play with Krazy though. :/

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:19 pm

In post 6022, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 6004, Venus and Mars wrote:If RCE ends the game, I’m a freaking genius.
I also take credit for this. :3

I figured out the Nom/EJ connection so . . .

Venus and Mars · Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:59 pm

In post 6024, Michael Scott wrote:Surely because of my awesome presence O:)

. . . and modesty.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:18 am

In post 6027, Conspire wrote:
In post 6026, Conspire wrote:Looking forward to another BOONus room. Maybe we can be Loved this time.

VOTE: Elibereth
-Cosmic

Haven't read though anything yet but I'm assuming you guys have this on lock.

-Cosmic

Elibereth?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:56 am

In post 6055, Auro wrote:So like 80% of town were Basic Boons and also N1 cops?

Someone please tell me wtf is going on? All of the flips so far have been town and since Auro and Conspire are mech cleared, does this mean Chk was scum?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:58 am

In post 6056, Krazy Katz wrote:What is even going on lol

I still don't even know why anyone is dead

The game ended but I don’t understand why since RCE flipped town.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:59 am

In post 6060, Krazy Katz wrote:Of course chk was scum

And auro too lol

But Conspire mech cleared Auro?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:01 am

In post 6065, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 6062, Krazy Katz wrote:what even mechanic caused endgame though?
3 sorcerers alive to 3 town. win con satisfied.

But how? Fonz was masons with Conspire.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:06 am

In post 6077, Conspire wrote:Auro was Donnie Brasco. Mind blown. That role must've been so much fun to play, Auro. All that time stressing over us dying for nothing lol

-Cosmic

I don’t understand you were town masons with Fonz, so how did you get a false inno on Auro?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:07 am

In post 6081, Boonskiies wrote:Eh, 3 scum, 3 third party, and Auro had mad post restrictions.

Had Auro not played so cleanly, this was gonna be a town stomp.

He actually didn’t. While Chk had me completely fooled, I would have 100% lynched him over Krazy.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:10 am

In post 6090, Auro wrote:
In post 6085, Conspire wrote:Interesting. So you got around the post restriction by saying you have "magical powers" that can keep us alive lol. Wait, did scum try to kill us two nights ago when there was no kill?
Yup! All the "magical powers" and my confidence.

No, I intentionally didn't submit a scum kill because I wanted town to believe you were targeted; hence making it not so fishy when you survive to endgame with me.

This game is totally bastard if Conspire was scum masons with town Fonz. We obviously could never have lynched you because of mason clear, so 100% bastard.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:13 am

In post 6092, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 6081, Boonskiies wrote:Eh, 3 scum, 3 third party, and Auro had mad post restrictions.

Had Auro not played so cleanly, this was gonna be a town stomp.
He actually didn’t. While Chk had me completely fooled, I would have 100% lynched him over Krazy.

I meant Auro, if it weren’t for the false mason clear. And I also was tricked by two scum in Titus’ rule of the 3.

So holy fuck, Titus outed almost the entire scumteam.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:14 am

In post 6103, Xtoxm wrote:i mean, town did have a TON of stuff here
you guys got 2 guilties on scum
scum mason should not be a thing. mason should be on different town role probably. everything else i think is fine.

@chk you played really well grats on win

Exactly! Having both Conspire and Auro mason cleared by town!Fonz flip was all kinds of wrong.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:19 am

In post 6114, Auro wrote:Yeah that was odd. I was expecting at least one of town to be informed or something.
The confessions thread had a post about mid-game alignment changes, I'm surprised none of you got a little paranoid over that.
I was thinking of fakeclaiming Psychiatrist if you guys talked too much about it.

Auro, while I hard townread you on D1, numerous things you did and kept doing pinged me as super scummy - like hardtown reading me but continuing to subtly shade me through most of the game. So, I had one scum in the Br, every night and 2 N1 and 5.

You were tonally different than you were in TM, where you were bleeding obvtown.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:21 am

In post 6125, Boonskiies wrote:Conspire was a townie until the end essentially, but she gave up her townie ness real fast, which was dangerous.

I’ll do a full break down probably tonight. Give everything.

Dafuq? So, she was town masons at the time Fonz died, than switched alignments? Well that’s 100% bastard and I probably wouldn’t have signed up for that had I known.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:23 am

In post 6135, Auro wrote:
In post 6133, Venus and Mars wrote:You were tonally different than you were in TM, where you were bleeding obvtown.
I don't think you should expect me to give TM-level performance every time.
That playstyle is very taxing and doesn't help too much either.
I'll be a lot more chill

No, I legit tonally got scum pings from you and I couldn’t figure out why.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:25 am

In post 6138, Auro wrote:
In post 6134, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, they added people to hydras but they didn’t post ever. But yeah, I wasn’t a fan of it. I had to grant more access to multiple things.
Genuinely wanted Volxen to be a part of this Poor dude got super busy.
Especially since mechanical shenanigans.

Yeah, that made me really suspicious because I know how eager he is to play scum but when he never showed, I dismissed it. I would have completely caught him if he had. Volxen is obvscum.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:27 am

In post 6139, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6132, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Was the definition of "Basic Boon" ever revealed?
I’m pretty sure The Fonz had it nail in the head like he always does.

Basic Boon was like a Simple variant, because I couldn’t use Simple.

Fonz Alive kept Conspire to him, however. It took a lot for Conspire to change.

Krazy called out exactly what was happening with it.

Yeah, that’s not acceptable changing Conspire’s alignment without advertising this as a bastard game.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:28 am

In post 6144, chkflip wrote:First person who uses this as "why chk is scum" gets a high five because I played this exactly like I play every game of mafia, my alignment just happened to be different.

If you ever deathtunel me like that as town ever again. I will powerlynch you.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:30 am

In post 6150, Auro wrote:Was really sad that Gamma outed the mail, though. I wonder what would've happened otherwise if RCE just got lynched.

Why did you choose RCE out of the entire playerlist?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:31 am

In post 6136, Krazy Katz wrote:I dunno this is like a really good case study in why I keep leaving this site lol

Please don’t. <3

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:32 am

In post 6153, chkflip wrote:Pro tip: don't demean people by calling them shitty names while also calling your friends less shitty names. I will absolutely repeat this in a game again if I see it and I'm not even sorry. Treating people like shit because they don't fit your personal mold of "this is how mafia is plaued" is fucking terrible.

Well, since you were doing that to me AS SCUM, you 100% deserved it.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:35 am

In post 6158, chkflip wrote:Ah, not learning anything. Don't know what I expected there.

If scum treats me badly, they 100% deserve every goddamn thing I throw at them. If you had actually been town, I would probably have apologized but as scum, you 100% had it coming and more so,

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:38 am

In post 6158, chkflip wrote:Ah, not learning anything. Don't know what I expected there.

You have a helluva lot of nerve justifying your despicable behaviour towards me, considering your alignment. Gtfo with that crock of shit, I didn’t just have a goddamned lobotomy.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:39 am

In post 6165, chkflip wrote:So saying people are "worst of all time" and "bad town" while calling your friend "wrong town" is completely acceptable?

Good talk.

If you roll scum in a game and treat people like shit, you 100% deserve everything you fucking get.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:40 am

In post 6168, chkflip wrote:The horse-sitting here is fucking laughable.

What part of you played like a disgusting scumfuck is going over your head exactly?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:42 am

In post 6167, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 6165, chkflip wrote:So saying people are "worst of all time" and "bad town" while calling your friend "wrong town" is completely acceptable?

Good talk.
Compared to your play this game, emphatically yes

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:44 am

In post 6169, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 6165, chkflip wrote:So saying people are "worst of all time" and "bad town" while calling your friend "wrong town" is completely acceptable?

Good talk.
If you roll scum in a game and treat people like shit, you 100% deserve everything you fucking get.

I only apologized to you because I thought you were town doing it, now that you’ve been revealed as scum. I 100% redact that apology.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:47 am

In post 6177, Xtoxm wrote:i dont see anything chk did blacklist worthy fwiw and don't understand what his alignment has to do with anything

It comes down to playstyle difference I guess. I would feel like utter shit if I played that way as scum but obviously not everyone feels that way.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:50 am

In post 6183, Krazy Katz wrote:Me. I have blacklisted you.

+1

Me too. I don’t want to play with anyone who plays that way as scum.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:52 am

In post 6185, chkflip wrote:I'm hurt.

You had the colossal fucking nerve to personally attack me, knowing you did that to me as scum, not remotely cool, bro.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:53 am

In post 6181, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 6177, Xtoxm wrote:i dont see anything chk did blacklist worthy fwiw and don't understand what his alignment has to do with anything
This postgame right now is blacklist worthy

+1

1000 fucking %!

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:55 am

In post 6176, chkflip wrote:
In post 6173, Krazy Katz wrote:Ok continue to complain about people not listening as someone tells you you're toxic that literally has no skin in the game
This should be fun.

What about my play was toxic?

Caveat: it has to be something that Mars didn't also do.

Have fun with that one because spoiler alert it doesn't exist.

What part of I wasn’t fucking scum are you not fucking registering?

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:58 am

In post 6193, chkflip wrote:You right, Fish.

Y'know, honestly, I'm mostly here to have a good time, but I would be a hypocrite if I didn't accept my own faults and make an effort to learn from them and grow as a person. Louis CK, in an episode of his self-titled television series "Louie" once said the following:

"When someone tells you you hurt them, you don't get to tell them they're wrong."

So, full disclosure, tell me what I did and I will NOT excuse it. I will NOT handwave you. I will take your critique, criticism, whatever you want to call it, and I will speak with you as to why I feel it happened in an effort NOT to explain away my behavior but instead to show you where I was coming from.

Katz, Mars, I give you both the floor. Please explain to me what exactly I've done and we can talk about it.

I’m too furious to discuss it right now but you having the absolute gall to lecture me post game, makes me positively livid.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:03 am

In post 6182, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 6120, Boonskiies wrote:I really wanted scum to say somewhere they think scum lose.

They got so close.

Had scum had said that, RCEnigma would have been conf town probably. Chronos almost said it, but he said “didn’t we already accept the fact we’re gonna lose?” And Auro saved the day by saying “no, we just blah blah”
I only realised on rereading today that the wording said booneytoonz players saying it forced the post restriction and not contestants. Krazy said something that made me recheck. So like I could have found scum today but I kind of dropped the ball.

The bastard elements of this game, made it impossible to lynch correctly, not when literally had 3 scum mech clears, with one slot literally switching alignments.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:15 am

In post 6199, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 6196, Auro wrote:Do note that Chk wasn't groupscum; he was basically a nerfed SK for most of the game.
Nancy gives a shit about his alignment, I do not. His play was unacceptable regardless of alignment. That his attitude this game was plausible for town-him only reflects how unacceptable his townplay is generally. I am not blacklisting him exclusively because of this game but as aggregate of every game I've seen from him.

While I do see your point and don’t disagree, Chk

knowingly

hurled abuse at a slot he was trying to get mislynched. I think that’s what makes this so over the top egregious for me but I actually wasn’t that mad until he attacked me post-game instead of apologizing for it.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:17 am

Conngrats Auro, Gamma/Chronus, SF, Conspire and Titus.

I still think town was 100% fucked because of bastard mech clears but meh,

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:27 am

In post 6204, Krazy Katz wrote:This is easily the stupidest and least satisfying game since overkill 2 and the scum saying they would not have felt like this game would have been a waste of time if they'd been town feels really fake tbh.

I should probably step back though because boon already knows this is the second time a game has been unexpectedly bastard and that there's no way I would touch one of his games again

Ftr I do sign up for and enjoy bastard games so long as I have a ballpark understanding of whether the game is 'real' or not

I did have fun but it 100% sucks knowing my alignment was fucked because of not realizing there were bastard elements in this game.

For all Chk did, he still didn’t ruin the game for me like A50 did. If Chk is genuinely sorry for the things he said to me post-game I may reconsider the blacklist but it is 100% disgusting to do that as scum is my opinion but the most unacceptable part was his reaction post-game. It’s not just that he was toxic and insulting, it was that he was constantly instigating and provoking me, yet blaming me for eventually losing it on him. When I thought he was frustrated town doing that, genuinely wrongly sr me off of AtE, it didn’t seem as horrible but for him to justify that post-game and attack me, is just beyond grotesque.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:36 am

In post 6210, chkflip wrote:That's also fair. It isn't that I'm not sorry, to be clear, there were several points I had meant to redact or otherwise word differently but didn't. My post-game point wasn't meant as an attack on your person, but again, no handwaving. Just because it wasn't my intention doesn't mean that it didn't hurt you personally.

I'm sorry.

I know I have things to work on and I’m no angel but you kept on instigating and provoking me and I did tell you that my best friend recently had died and you showed me 0 compassion for that, so you attacking me post-game all things onsidered, really did hurt me, because it read like you had 0 respect for me as a human being and winning is everything to you, so long as you literally don’t break site rules, ethics be damned pretty much,

There are certain things I just won’t do as scum and if I always apologize if I think I might have. Scum have feelings too and it’s human to get tilted irrespective of alignment but you knowingly deathtunnelled me in an extremely toxic way as scum, is the crux of my issue with it. Ftr, I think you are a good person to have this reaction but I still don’t know if I can feel safe in a game with you if you think it’s ever acceptable doing that as scum.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:45 am

In post 6214, Krazy Katz wrote:Town had dave's role and that was literally it

How was that stacked? Because it had a full bastard masonry and a million things none of which were explained, could be explained, or could be inferred?

Town had jack shit

My role wasn't even supersaint, I was just a miller if you read it
We had a bastard virus that actively confused roles against rolecard
We had a bastard masonry
We had a doc that had to go half the game before he could do anything
We had a universal sticky fruit vendor

And we had rce who could have gotten a guilty I guess but chose not to?

And dave

I'm sorry but there was *way* more obnoxious bastard elements than there was town power in an 11-6 ratio

Yes, it was objectively even more antitown than Overkill 2, because bastard mech clears made this game virtually unwinable for town, Had BTE’s role been EXACTLY what he claimed and sent that fruit to everyone left in the game, it might have balanced it out.

@BTE, ever consider designing a game? If you do, please sign me up. <3

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:48 am

In post 6216, Xtoxm wrote:town also had a billion cops, and 3 guaranteed cop checks with the barbs
and a bunch of confirmable roles
and all of scum powers were like, nothing
the only good thing we had was my rolestop and it was locked behind me being put at L-1 which never happened

@VM thanks

I think the entire scumteam minus Chk played honourably. I don’t even have a problem with the angle shooting but literally non-stop attacking someone’s character you are trying to drive a mislynch on, isn’t okay in my book.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:49 am

In post 6220, Boonskiies wrote:To be fair, I think it’s been established I’m very anti mech clears in general.

But having the exact opposite of that fucks town, We could never have gotten any of the remaining scum lynched besides Chk.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:55 am

In post 6218, Boonskiies wrote:I was very satisfied with Overkill 2.

Mine and Krazy’s issue with that is A50 giving you the backup amnesiac cop slot but at least town had a chance. With literally 2/3 scum mech cleared, we had no shot.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:00 am

In post 6212, davesaz wrote:A whole lotta stuff gets called "personal" and "abuse" which simply isn't from a 3p point of view. Most people don't know your life story, and many are likely to not be thinking about it if they do know about it.
There are some players who don't have English as a first language, and a whole lot of players who have lived a long life in a different idiom from what you're used to.
Extreme sensitivity is a problem. Tantrums are a problem. They make the game unfun for the people who have to watch them.

Those things said, I do not in any way condone exploiting sensitivity. If the person using terms that are taken the wrong way by the recipient
knows
the term is sensitive, then that's unacceptable.

He knew I was a wreck from my best friend dying and that 100% did affect my reactions. He also had to know from TBONTB dead PT, that A50 had severely triggered my dormant cptsd because I literally made a post in there to him apologizing. I think I’m a little better now, that the shock is starting to wear off,

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:03 am

In post 6211, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 6204, Krazy Katz wrote:This is easily the stupidest and least satisfying game since overkill 2 and the scum saying they would not have felt like this game would have been a waste of time if they'd been town feels really fake tbh.
i don't think i said anything like that, i think it would have been painful as town and i said the mason should not have been scum.
maybe even just remove the ability for conspire to turn from town and the game looks fine? town is pretty stacked.
i think the rest is fine.

+1

I fully agree with this.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:06 am

In post 6197, The Fonz wrote:Lol the mason dialogue the night I died surrounding the alignment of Auro and JJH and who Conspire should check is retrospectively hilarious.

I'm probably not going to play for a while, because Mafia is making me angry again and, as I've said before, that's part of why I left. I'm probably going to hang around the site to play D&D and hopefully mod-hydra in the next few months. This is a cool community, and while it has its scumbags, there's fewer than most places.

I 100% standy by my apology to you and I am in no way justifying anything due to rl issues.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:09 am

Xtoxm made some excellent suggestions and I really wish BTE’s role would have been exactly what he said it was.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:10 am

In post 6229, Auro wrote:viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82400
Subject: BTDT: Confessionals

Boonskiies wrote:There is a single slot who's alignment can physically change.

Jjh, insulted my intelligence for taking that seriously and Krazy thought it was just “shitposting”.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:13 am

In post 6231, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 6220, Boonskiies wrote:To be fair, I think it’s been established I’m very anti mech clears in general.
That doesn't mean you give town nothing

Town needed like three vigs if you're going to have 6 scum

This was like hyperstacked with the bastard mason in such a way that even if I didn't dislike this game while playing it it now is like a textbook bad version of bastard

This is like actually bastard, not in a good or fun way, but in the stupid way where you literally feel like it was just a total waste of time and the mod pointed to someone random and said 'ok u win the game because i say so'

The mid-game alignment change especially with a dead mason-cleared slot was the absolute worst. If you were going to do that with ANY slot, should never have been with a mech-cleared one.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:19 am

In post 6233, jjh927 wrote:Nancy, you taking that seriously was you believing I had a 3p wincon where I had already won because I was playing animal crossing

The point was that all of these things wound up being actually true for Conspire, so I wasn’t being stupid. I also - still have no clue what Animal Crossing even is and I asked you multiple times to explain it to me but for some reason you never did.

I also have a neurologically-based reason why I derp in all my games and constantly misunderstand things like that. It’s nothing I can actually help but a learning disability doesn’t make me stupid - not by a longshot. I try to do my best in spite of it.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:21 am

In post 6237, jjh927 wrote:
In post 6235, Krazy Katz wrote:The game actually would have been better if jjh won and we were all endgsmed from an animal crossing wincon

That would have been much less stupid than what actually was in this game
That's what I am choosing to believe actually happened

That way I didn't waste any of my time playing this game

I would have actually been okay with that.

Venus and Mars · Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:11 pm

In post 6279, nomnomnom wrote:Well... perhaps we could change our system from a winner based system, from a showcase system. The goodfellas category could simply showcase multiple scumgames with really good or interesting scumteams, instead of deciding one winner with a banner at the key. What this does is showing the level of scumteams on this site and it's a much less elitist approach, and a more "haha, good times guys? that game was awesome!". But again that might just be my own feelings speaking here, there probably are a few people who appreciate the competitive nature of the scummies. But I think that as a community we could benefit more from taking a more lax approach to all this and just reminiscing on even more awesome moments we shared through games!

Maybe add those kind of categories to them? Krazy made an award thread that seemed to make everyone happy. What was it called again? But I would totally prefer it to the scummies.