mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luna Fox · Post Post #5450 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:52 pm

In post 5447, PenguinPower wrote:I feel like I called out your read trajectory at one point.

Btw the reason I tunneled you it's coz i was in "not caring mode" so i decided to tunnel a random townie.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5451 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:53 pm

I felt like that way i'd get the least associations out of me if I get lynched, didnt expect to start caring later in the game, much less to start tryharding.

Nero Cain · Post Post #5452 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:55 pm

how did u feel in our 1v1?

Luna Fox · Post Post #5453 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:56 pm

In post 5452, Nero Cain wrote:how did u feel in our 1v1?

Part of me kept giggling when you were saying you caught me considering that my plan was for you to get a guilty on me to begin with.

Although i was pretty nervous at times since all gambits have very high risk high reward factors.

Nero Cain · Post Post #5454 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 pm

Why did u not think I'd target PP?

Luna Fox · Post Post #5455 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:59 pm

In post 5454, Nero Cain wrote:Why did u not think I'd target PP?

It was a chance, but I felt you had more chance to target me due to our interactions D4.
SS plan was that if you for some reason targeted PP I'd have to argue a team of You/PP, but flipping my read on you is a hard thing to do for me as scum, so the best case scenario was you just guiltying me so i could 1v1 you without issue.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5456 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:01 pm

Under any other circumstances if it wasnt for SS's role being unbusable for me and me having a "i dont wanna bus" policy, I'd have 100% killed nero cain that night, so PP's theory that i kill NSG is wrong, the only reason i killed NSG was due to the gambit with NC's result.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #5457 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:01 pm

In post 5455, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 5454, Nero Cain wrote:Why did u not think I'd target PP?
It was a chance, but I felt you had more chance to target me due to our interactions D4.
SS plan was that if you for some reason targeted PP I'd have to argue a team of You/PP, but flipping my read on you is a hard thing to do for me as scum, so the best case scenario was you just guiltying me so i could 1v1 you without issue.

Considering where my reads were pushing Nero/PP after a PP clear probably would have worked.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5458 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:03 pm

In post 5457, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 5455, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 5454, Nero Cain wrote:Why did u not think I'd target PP?
It was a chance, but I felt you had more chance to target me due to our interactions D4.
SS plan was that if you for some reason targeted PP I'd have to argue a team of You/PP, but flipping my read on you is a hard thing to do for me as scum, so the best case scenario was you just guiltying me so i could 1v1 you without issue.
Considering where my reads were pushing Nero/PP after a PP clear probably would have worked.

Yeah, but I was not confident I could make that flip on Nero's black and white meta in any believable way.
The only way for me to engage Nero was for him to guilty me so I had no other choice.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5459 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:04 pm

Regardless SS's idea of leaving Nero alive and letting him have an extra result was a good idea overall.
If it was me i'd have NK'd him, heck if it was me i'd probably have NK'd Boon instead of Oka, but as I said, im bad at night actions, specially as scum.

northsidegal · Post Post #5460 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:04 pm

among my other mistakes, the last one i made was failing to tell nero to gunsmith penguin and penguin to give nero fruit. gunsmith penguin because i felt he was the best target, fruit nero on the off chance that penguin was a mafia simple fruit vendor. i had this plan but failed to make it clear to the thread.

i think that if that had happened then there would be non-zero chances of an SS lynch during lylo, which as i've said i think would lead to a victory.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5461 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:05 pm

That's also probably why i did not argue Clidd about killing FB, even tho I didnt want to kill the player providing the fun for the game for me.
And while it didnt matter i scumslipped once.
I never targeted eddie cane N1, that was iDany's result, BUT i forgot whose result was which, if there was a tracker or watcher i'd have been toast there.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5462 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:08 pm

NGL but Boon's fake guilty greatly contributed to scum winning here, I dont think we'd have many chances of survival otherwise, heck, we were already in deep waters as it was because SS was getting very scumread and i'd soon follow if he was ever lynched. On top of having 2 town gunsmiths to fight against with no real way to counter them other than town having 1 false positive, if Boon hadn't blown both of his shots on the false positive and the night killed person it'd have been a very hard game for scum.

PenguinPower · Post Post #5463 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:14 pm

Also, I do apologize for failing to send fruit one night, but I was deeply engrossed in FF7 remake.

schadd_ · Post Post #5464 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:15 pm

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82452
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PenguinPower · Post Post #5465 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:15 pm

I'm not really going to gripe on Boon after this game...I already went overboard from what I normally would do.

PenguinPower · Post Post #5466 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:16 pm

Sorry for that - Boon. Stressful times.

schadd_ · Post Post #5467 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:17 pm

wolfes
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82454

schadd_ · Post Post #5468 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:18 pm

howd you guys like the setup. :^) pretty happy with how the triple voyeur thing worked out. thats pretty much what you have to do to get it to do something

schadd_ · Post Post #5469 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:18 pm

In post 3185, northsidegal wrote:honestly this is probably the first time a voyeur has gotten a result since 2006, and the first time it's been relevant since 1992

in particular i found this very funny

Luna Fox · Post Post #5470 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:20 pm

In post 5468, schadd_ wrote:howd you guys like the setup. :^) pretty happy with how the triple voyeur thing worked out. thats pretty much what you have to do to get it to do something

I dont even know what we were supposed to do against 2 town gunsmiths.
I think the setup was very townsided, and we only won because of sheer luck with Boon's fake guilty and incredible strategy by SS.
I don't know, but maybe im biased coz i had both of my partners getting heavily scumread while I was being lock townread or something.

PenguinPower · Post Post #5471 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:23 pm

Town power was mitigated by false guilties and scum having three of the same roles + being multitasking. FV is nothingness except a strawman for Voyeurs. Jailkeeper could be +/-

Wasn't supertownsided.

PenguinPower · Post Post #5472 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:23 pm

Twas confusing!

schadd_ · Post Post #5473 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:23 pm

i enduringly dont see the point of waiting for nero to get a guilty to kill him

Nero Cain · Post Post #5474 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:27 pm

no offense to "the strategy" but I don't think that really had a TON to do win the win as SS could have been lynched (assuming PP didn't misread Alch). I mean, ok Iff SS had gotten lynched before you and there were 2 dead scum voyeurs and a claimed town one then

MAYBE

you get lynched but its also not super hard to see Alch and PP just go "oh 2 scum voyeurs and a town 1, makes sense"