Okay, I was going to post once I've finished reading everything, but I'm only at page 16 right now, and deadline is coming, so I figured I should try and at least get some thoughts out. Working on the other 9 pages now.
People I'd be willing to vote for by page 16: SC, FL, BA.
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Okay, I'm typing this as I read through, and I'm inserting things here and there when relevant, so this might be rather messy. Oh, and you can ignore questions if you've answered them already at some later time.
I don't like rofl's 'trap.' It's something that again anyone could walk into, whether they're town or scum, for reasons that could be either town-ish or scummy. I also don't like the way rofl reacted to Korts. I would have done the same thing as Korts. His question wasn't valid for exactly the reason armlx said in 51.
Oh, he's mason. Geez. I don't agree with your logic on armlx, or your insistence on korts being his partner based on the fact that he disagreed with you on it. Also don't think you should have claimed. You've helped the town, yes, but just as much as you've helped the scum.
fl wrote:I'm not ready to vote you yet, but should a wagon appear on you, I will sure as hell join it.
First thing that seriously set off alarm bells in my head.
Rofl apparently doesn't like it either, but still goes for armlx. Ugh. I really hope I don't have to read 20 pages of tunneling.
vamp wrote:vote:forbidden light i agree with the others points
I
really
don't like this. Especially since I have a meta on townvamp that he doesn't like to vote, even when there's big cases.
Huh? Why'd you claim FL? You were so far a way from a lynch. Why so iffy?
Don't like Ironman's post 160. Kind of hypocritical to accuse both FL and vamp of being opportunistic when his post is pretty much just as opportunistic.
Ugh. Sun Tzu's 170 is just as bad. Korts calls out Sun Tzu on it. I agree with you Korts, but why did you call ST on it when Ironman's 160 was essentially the same?
fl wrote:I do however feel if a wagon did form on you, someone would point out what my intuition was going off on, so I'd feel better about voting you
Huh? So you're fine with voting based on no justification other than your intuition, and then having your vote justified later by
other people?
GS coming under suspicion for his unwillingess to answer questions. Could you maybe see it as just him being slightly pricky? His later actions to iamusername like
vote: iamausername for being too stupid to be a townie.
read more like prickiness than scuminess.
I don't like Lowell's, 'I'll tell you who's scum once I get more protown vibes.' That's not scumhunting. That's a cheap out so you don't have to attack people and make a case on them.
Korts was fishing? It read more like an obsevation. He didn't do anything that would have prompted people to out themselves in response, consciously or otherwise.
Hmm. I don't think the Korts-rolefishing thing was a big deal. It looked more like an observation at first glance. I have to crane my head to the side a bit and squint to get the malicious rolefishing point of view some people were pointing out.
fl wrote:I prefer a Vamp lynch, since it is obvious we aren't going to get any insightful play from him,
as well as
the fact he's been playing scummy.
? The fact that he's been playing scummy is just an afterthought to you? Also, I disagree with any philosophy along the lines of, 'player x is useless to town, let's lynch him!' There will always be antitown people in every town. Lynching them in every game
just because
is just as antitown.
fl wrote:But, it's not JUST a policy lynch. Can you say with full honestly Vamp hasn't been scummy? The policy is a factor, but to be honest his play has just been really scummy. That's the main reason I support it.
Contradicts above.
Armlx grows a serious-er wagon this time, with korts on it. Don't buy it. The reasons Korts gave in his pbpa of armlx aren't as solid as the reasons he had for his earlier votes. The armlx case is weak. It honestly reads more like an omgus. I think you're both town though, have since the beginning.
SC goes to armlx following korts, right after he had switched his vote to blackadder following roflcopter. This is like the most blatant wagoning ever. You've gone along with anyone who's posted a serious case on anyone. Ugh.
Wow. Semantics argument between korts and armlx over the word 'only' spanning 10ish posts. I think the whole, 'no,
you're
misrepresenting me' thing was made out to be bigger than it was.
Korts is called on his case being weak by jordan but sticks to his guns. Hm.
Man.
I can't read fl's 303. Everything's just strung together.
Hmm. Strife makes a good point about Korts being protown early on as having a clouding effect on later actions. I'll reread him in isolation once I'm done plowing through 29 pages.
Hmm. A lot of people seem to like fl's 303. I'll go have another look at it.
Lowell is still doing his town vibe thing at page 13. Does anyone have a meta on lowell? It's irking me. I think I have to reread his posts in isolation later too.
Hmm. I don't like how blakadder answered for tin. He cites his reason as being
It's not that I'm supporting Tin or anything,
I just don't like false accusations.
Despite the fact that there were lots of other accusations flying around at that time. Why defend that accusation in particular? His defence of it is,
I don't know. I speak (or, rather, post) without thinking a lot.
which I also don't like. That's a cheap out.
Korts is still going after armlx after admitting it's a weak case. Why dude? Do you trust your gut that much?
I'm at post... 354. I just noticed that fl does a lot of FOSing. Maybe it's a playstle thing, but I hardly ever FOS, and I don't like FOSs. I'm rather wary of FOSers.
silence wrote:So far, I haven't found anyone doing anything that I would find clearly scummy (especially if there is a reasonable explanation for StrangerCougs FoS).
Anyway, I don't know if it is even possible to obtain a better-than-random lynch D1.
Therefore, at this point,
I would go for forbiddanlight who is a claimed vanilla.
Another candidates are BlakAdder who wants to rely on unexplained intuition and Vamparific who seems to have disappeared.
Urgh. Uber do not like. Especially the bold. The whole thing reads like, 'let's just lynch
someone.
' The italicized is also horrible.
Post 361. Ironman makes a lot of posts along the lines of:
this game moves extremely quickly. I'm still trying to catch up and form an intelligent analysis. I've kinda skimmed over the last few pages, but I currently have nothing to comment on as of yet. Maybe later.
I need to skim through a game of his and see if that's standard from him or lurky.
371. I lol'd. Also, just realized that I should have been putting post numbers since the beginning of this read, just to make things easier for people to find what I'm talking about. Also, just realized that if I were in the others' shoes, I'd probably only just be skimming through this.
386, SC. Huh? That was a rather quick vote/unvote for very little in both the vote and the unvote.
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People who've struck me as lurky and i'm wary of: sun tzu, ironman, tin. If I missed anyone, then they haven't been posting enough for me to even catch their names.
