Open 777: Switch (Town Wins)

Raya36 · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:09 pm

In post 358, Knightmare491 wrote:Killing klick makes sense for sk/mafia because they were town read by more than half of the playerlist and it frames me too two birds in one stone.

That's true too. UNVOTE: because I don't know what I think anymore

In post 360, Elmo TeH AzN wrote: Wasn't Klick a replacement as well?

Yes, Klick replaced Overki11

In post 365, Knightmare491 wrote:
In post 364, Dunnstral wrote:nightmare is a good candidate for mafia because the vote failed on them at deadline.
?? How does that make me mafia?

Scum resistance to the lynch

chkflip · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

I feel like over half the game being MIA makes the failure for a Knightmare lynch to go through NAI, unfortunately.

havingfitz · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:32 pm

Done reading the game.

VOTE: Knightmare

Mostly because most of my townreads are on this slot. I will go more into my reads tomorrow.

Time for zzzzzzz

TheWizard · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:25 pm

Knightmare491 (3):

Elmo TeH AzN, Black Ranger, havingfitz

Black Ranger (2):

NDMath, chkflip

NDMath (1):

Knightmare491

Not Voting (4):

Looker, Dunnstral, Tanner, Raya36

With 10 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-05-09 07:33:00)

Raya36 · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:02 am

In post 376, chkflip wrote:I feel like over half the game being MIA makes the failure for a Knightmare lynch to go through NAI, unfortunately.

Half the game being MIA and all the replacements makes it impossible to form reads

TheWizard · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 4:31 am

Looker has been prodded for inactivity.

Looker · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 6:52 am

Sorry for flaking. Back and reading.

In post 324, chkflip wrote:
In post 64, Emperor flippyNips wrote:VOTE: tanner
How is this vote illegitimate?

That was an RVS vote.

I feel there were enough people around yesterday to secure a lynch.

In post 325, chkflip wrote:Furthermore, why did you drop the second-most wagon for a lynch on someone who isn't here to defend themself?

Partners defend partners, and both you and NDMath were equally L-5.

It's weird that the day deadline wasn't extended, but the night deadline for a game that's already scumsided was.

VOTE: Dunnstral I don't know why you and Raya have been given passes. I get it, I wasn't around, but I feel we could've secured a lynch with the players that were around during deadline.

NDMath · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 9:20 am

Did you read the end of day votecount or just the flips?
And why Dunn over Raya?

In post 377, havingfitz wrote:Done reading the game.

VOTE: Knightmare

Mostly because most of my townreads are on this slot. I will go more into my reads tomorrow.

Time for zzzzzzz

Ngl my read on this slot is gonna be determined fully by the quality of those reads.

Dunnstral · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 12:13 pm

In post 381, Looker wrote: VOTE: Dunnstral I don't know why you and Raya have been given passes. I get it, I wasn't around, but I feel we could've secured a lynch with the players that were around during deadline.

What do you mean? I voted for Knightmare

If you mean we could have swung the vote to somebody else, explain how we could have done that, and on who, and how I would have known that

Also, you don't think this guy is guilty of what you're accusing me of?

In post 337, Knightmare491 wrote:I don't mind voting for Emperor, it's a lurker slot, but I'd rather lynch math.

Your vote reeks looker

Dunnstral · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 12:18 pm

In post 381, Looker wrote:I feel there were enough people around yesterday to secure a lynch.

Make a vote count with all the active players from yesterday on a wagon from yesterday that results in a lynch.

Elmo posted 3 minutes before deadline and gave no indication that he was active before that time.

Dunnstral · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 1:47 pm

In post 364, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 360, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 353, Dunnstral wrote:Are you claiming vigilante?
Im making an educated guess based off the information known in the game.

A vig taking a shot would be very reckless none the less and for once at least this game I am trying not to do that.
What information in the game makes you think Maria was shot by the sk?

I still don't understand this, or rather I don't think it makes sense from a town perspective

NDMath · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:29 pm

I don't think there was a good reason for sk to be off wagon yesterday?
So I think sk is probably just between Elmo, Raya, and Dunn.

Though none of those are in my top scumreads and I don't particularly care to sk hunt with all mafia still alive.

I'd be shocked if all of Ranger Looker and Maria(flipped t) were town, though I'd also doubt two scum would actively flake at EOD.

chkflip is my strongest townread right now.
Tanner is prob good still.

I'm still gonna wait for fitz readlist before I make a judgment on him.

I'm trying to mold a world with knightmare town but I'm not coming up with much.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm

In post 384, Dunnstral wrote:Elmo posted 3 minutes before deadline and gave no indication that he was active before that time.

I was already on the wagon. And I checked in at work

Dunnstral · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:51 pm

In post 387, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
In post 384, Dunnstral wrote:Elmo posted 3 minutes before deadline and gave no indication that he was active before that time.
I was already on the wagon. And I checked in at work

That wasn't a dig at you, I'm pointing that out at looker who said we could have lynched someone with the active players then voted me.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:53 pm

Ah yeah I was only on to see if we were going to have a lynch. We were one short afaik?

Dunnstral · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 2:54 pm

In post 386, NDMath wrote:I don't think there was a good reason for sk to be off wagon yesterday?
So I think sk is probably just between Elmo, Raya, and Dunn.

I voted at deadline to try to prevent a nolynch.

I do think Elmo and Raya are good guesses for SK, for separate reasons (Elmo doesn't look like mafia but is acting weird and himt alking about the SK shooting maria looked like a slip of knowledge, Raya's vote was minus mafia equity but they kind of feel like an outcast)

I agree that we should be lynching for mafia and not SK today. Good candidates are: Knightmare and Looker. I'm not seeing Black Ranger as scummy (they're just null for me), further explanation there would be useful.

In post 386, NDMath wrote:I'd be shocked if all of Ranger Looker and Maria(flipped t) were town, though I'd also doubt two scum would actively flake at EOD.

If knightmare is mafia, it's either actively flake or lynch your partner for town cred. With town being in pretty dire straits, It's pretty reasonable to choose the first option.

If knightmare is mafia, he also counts as one of the scum actively flaking at EOD.

Looker · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:06 pm

In post 382, NDMath wrote:Did you read the end of day votecount or just the flips?
And why Dunn over Raya?

I read from where I asked for an extension onward. I can only vote one at a time, and Raya was only never voted, not given a blind TR pass like Dunnstral.

In post 383, Dunnstral wrote:What do you mean? I voted for Knightmare

If you mean we could have swung the vote to somebody else, explain how we could have done that, and on who, and how I would have known that

Also, you don't think this guy is guilty of what you're accusing me of?

In post 337, Knightmare491 wrote:I don't mind voting for Emperor, it's a lurker slot, but I'd rather lynch math.
Your vote reeks looker

You guys were all posting around deadline. Plus you were trying to fish out vigilante.

In post 384, Dunnstral wrote:Make a vote count with all the active players from yesterday on a wagon from yesterday that results in a lynch.

Elmo posted 3 minutes before deadline and gave no indication that he was active before that time.

You, Klick, chkflip and Raya all posted around deadline. That's discounting Elmo and Math.

Dunnstral · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:12 pm

In post 391, Looker wrote:You, Klick, chkflip and Raya all posted around deadline.

It's not possible for that combination of players to secure a lynch based on the end votecount. You're wrong:

In post 348, TheWizard wrote:
Knightmare491 (6):
Klick, Elmo TeH AzN, chkflip, NDMath, Dunnstral, Raya36

Emperor flippyNips (2):
Black Ranger, Looker

NDMath (1):
Knightmare491

MariaR (1):
Tanner

Tanner (1):
MariaR

Not Voting (1):
Emperor flippyNips

No one will be lynched today.

Night will be paused pending the two replacements. This pause will not last longer than 48 hours.

If you're arguing we could have done it with Elmo: he didn't pop in until 3 minutes before deadline. There's no way for us to know whether Elmo pops in or if you/Black Ranger pop in, hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

Dunnstral · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:25 pm

Looker, do you think Knightmare is town?

Dunnstral · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:28 pm

Also I wasn't "Vigilante fishing", I got confused and thought Elmo was claiming vig because he started talking about sk killing maria, and for a minute I thought that his confidence in saying that meant he had info on night actions, then I realized that even if he were vig he wouldn't know who the sk killed vs who the mafia killed, so actually it looks more like a slip that comes from mafia/sk. But I also don't know if he's just really confused.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:38 pm

No I'm just trying to find the mafia. At this point in the game I'd out the SK on the backburner due to the fact there are 3 maf and one SK. and they are on their way to an easier win.

Dunnstral · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 3:40 pm

I don't understand why when the day started you thought Maria was killed by the serial killer, and Klick was killed by the mafia?

What evidence pointed to that?

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 4:00 pm

Maria was nothing more then a lurker. Tbh I'm not sure why she was really killed off the top of my head. Klick made sense due to being proactive as well as being obvious town

Knightmare491 · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 6:18 pm

In post 383, Dunnstral wrote:Also, you don't think this guy is guilty of what you're accusing me of?

Are you saying I should have hammered myself?

Knightmare491 · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2020 6:21 pm

In post 364, Dunnstral wrote:Also, we need to try to lynch mafia over SK because of crosskilling and because of vote parity, and lynching mafia extends the game. Knightmare is a good candidate for mafia because the vote failed on them at deadline. Speaking of which, can we talk about why/how that happened?

You know this is something I'd say as mafia to sound clever and let everyone know about my

townie

awareness.