you to be scum right now, so I'm going to take a step back and let other people weigh in before I end up confbias tunneling you.
This part I don't really understand. It feels kind of awkward and out of line with how they've been playing the rest of the day.
I mean, you've seen me confbias tunnel before. I don't understand how you don't understand that this is something I would do if I let myself get carried away.
I can't address this.
In this game, however, you've said that you like really pressuring newbies because they're more likely to crack in a way to obv town or obv scum. You tried it on Petri which seemed to only partially work for you. So it seems odd to me that it looks like you're ramping up to do it again, generating lots of content and conversation that allows all other players to better understand both of you. Then it's suddenly cut short in a way that feels inorganic.
From an outsider perspective, I do not see this ramping of tunneling that you claim you felt. It feels like a natural conversation, where you're read of Gyp is progressing in real-time. Then, despite what feels to be you getting a scum read, you halt suddenly. So yes, based on THIS game, it feels awkward.
So you can take the facts, and use them to form a read. Or you can make a read, and then warp the facts to fit the read. Which one sounds like my approach to Petri, and which one seems likelier to be the case if I tunneled Gypyx?
In post 434, LuckyLuciano wrote:I'll probably not be looking too much at this game today. I need to finish catching up elsewhere - I made a commitment to replace into a deep game.
Day 1 seems to go with a universal town read, so me or Micc.
I don't think Fwog would have looked very good coming into day 2. Maybe they suspected he was a PR? But it feels like a way to make Lucky look worse, as the day ended with both Fwog and I putting FoS on him.
Well, there might be something more than just putting FoS susp on Lucky (btw what does that exactly mean?) as if this really was scum's plan, they probably would've killed you i think
In post 438, Gypyx wrote:Well, there might be something more than just putting FoS susp on Lucky (btw what does that exactly mean?) as if this really was scum's plan, they probably would've killed you i think
Finger of Suspicion
But people didn't town read, or follow Fwog. While people did for me. So they could hope I'd carry the momentum from the day ended, and really push Lucky, with the added evidence of that flip.
Basically I'm more likely to convince people than Fwog was.
For what it's worth, I thought this was a mason soft, which built into my townread on fwog despite some of his questionable moves, and is really the reason why he topped my reads list for town:
Spoiler:
In post 22, fwogcarf wrote:im gonna make a public note that i will be looking for distancing/socializing between a certain two people
In post 438, Gypyx wrote:Well, there might be something more than just putting FoS susp on Lucky (btw what does that exactly mean?) as if this really was scum's plan, they probably would've killed you i think
Finger of Suspicion
But people didn't town read, or follow Fwog. While people did for me. So they could hope I'd carry the momentum from the day ended, and really push Lucky, with the added evidence of that flip.
Basically I'm more likely to convince people than Fwog was.
That's a fair point, but is there any reason why you aren't considering the possibility that Lucky killed Fwog? (unless i misunderstood your point)
In post 438, Gypyx wrote:Well, there might be something more than just putting FoS susp on Lucky (btw what does that exactly mean?) as if this really was scum's plan, they probably would've killed you i think
Finger of Suspicion
But people didn't town read, or follow Fwog. While people did for me. So they could hope I'd carry the momentum from the day ended, and really push Lucky, with the added evidence of that flip.
Basically I'm more likely to convince people than Fwog was.
That's a fair point, but is there any reason why you aren't considering the possibility that Lucky killed Fwog? (unless i misunderstood your point)
Mostly because it feels that's the line of thought the kill wants me to go down? Like it's such an unexpected kill, it really draws attention to itself.
I played under Mestari and Lucky_Luciano primarily.
The comment was made referencing the night kill analysis that's gone on so far. Elaborating beyond that is just going to be seen as WIFOM unless you want to go through all of my past scum games to confirm what I say, and if you are willing to do that, then you can figure out why I think this situation is funny without me telling you.
I played under Mestari and Lucky_Luciano primarily.
The comment was made referencing the night kill analysis that's gone on so far. Elaborating beyond that is just going to be seen as WIFOM unless you want to go through all of my past scum games to confirm what I say, and if you are willing to do that, then you can figure out why I think this situation is funny without me telling you.
Naw, I mostly joking around. Thanks for the info though.
When you get time, I would like you to explain the Gyp vote. Does that mean you've gotten over your reservations from yesterday?
I'm going to reread the game more in depth before I start heavily engaging in this day phase. Just going off how I felt about players late yesterday, the next logical step is either Petri or Gypyx. Gypyx seemed to pretty heavily townread me towards the end of D1, and now he's starting D2 off supposing that I killed fwog. The disconnect doesn't feel natural, and fits in with your reasoning in 443.
