Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

[DonCorleone]

Lilith is a TR for you too right?

[Albert B. Rampage]

How dare you. I am the perplexed.

You think you deserve to be in farside/lilith category?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lilith is a TR for you too right?

Not really. I almost shot her.

[chkflip]

is that better or worse

[DonCorleone]

Oh, I forgot that

So it’s basically you TR farside plus the ICs, correct?

I don’t hate your earlier solve

[DonCorleone]

I think the one I was thinking of was (eyestott, vecna, Lilith)

[Vecna]

Im not really sure how to feel about Stott.

Im probably not objective enough to have a proper verdict, but them just catching up and happening to put the guy that is in arms reach of a hammer at the bottom of their readslist and quoting the interactions with DC sure feels convenient

[DonCorleone]

Push come to shove I TR Maria and farside on top of the IC gang

Which means 3/5 of (chk, vecna, votato, eyestott, Lilith) are scum

I still kind of think that scum are more likely to have both been on but now that I’m writing it down I’m not sure I can justify why that is. I kind of doubt still that all the scum were on, so I think there’s almost certainly 1 in (vecna, votato)

[DonCorleone]

And if it is votato and not vecna who’s scum then yeah, I don’t hate (eyestott, chk) as partners

[DonCorleone]

There’s a lot of circumstantial shit making me paranoid about Maria — the fact that the other major wagon was on town, that the diversion to Knightmare last minute was so easy, that firebringer was both scumreading her p hard and tunnelling her, the fact that she’s been an absolute pleasure to play with

But goddamn I can’t shake the pocket yet if that’s what it is

[Vecna]

I really think chk wouldve put a plan in play to at least not get in this 50/50 position. This was so avoidable for scum and such a terrible spot to put themselves in.

Like the current gamestate makes it so convenient to think its just Votato and stotts, but I just cannot justify thinking that is what is with all the small little pings coming from the three big slots

[Vecna]

There’s a lot of circumstantial shit making me paranoid about Maria — the fact that the other major wagon was on town, that the diversion to Knightmare last minute was so easy, that firebringer was both scumreading her p hard and tunnelling her, the fact that she’s been an absolute pleasure to play with

But goddamn I can’t shake the pocket yet if that’s what it is

The fact that Maria and Farside are the only ones reaching out to me with cutesy shit and trying to prod me for reads on these last few pages just makes me feel theyre both trying to do the standard scum thing of looking friendly for the impending townflip.

One of those 2 has to be scum surely.

Im still puzzled about the lilith response to my earlier lively lightbulb moment where she unvoted me and hasnt put the vote back.

[DonCorleone]

I kinda think you deliberately bullshitted the “ABR AND DC COULD BE SCUMBUDDIES GUYZ” thing to falll back on “scum!me wouldn’t have put myself in that position” and it’s the same thing you’re doing with getting a scumteam member to claim gun “if I were scum a teammate would have claimed!”

[DonCorleone]

UNVOTE: — my opinion hasn’t changed but I can’t remember what VC is and I don’t want this to get too high yet

[DonCorleone]

What’s your solve vecna?

[Vecna]

I kinda think you deliberately bullshitted the “ABR AND DC COULD BE SCUMBUDDIES GUYZ” thing to falll back on “scum!me wouldn’t have put myself in that position” and it’s the same thing you’re doing with getting a scumteam member to claim gun “if I were scum a teammate would have claimed!”

I completely get that, and i tried to manoevre around that because it was obvious you were going to become suspicious about that.

However, I did what I felt I had to do to prevent you from autowinning for scum because I really did feel you were scum, and i felt the need to create a sitaution where I could at least put some weight against that from happening if stotts did claim gun.

I know youre probably not gonna believe this, but ill stick to it I was still very much suspecting at least a somewhat rational approach to this from scum. Not claiming gun whatsoever was a huge fuckup that might still cost them the game.

[DonCorleone]

I think my other likely solves would be (eyestott, vecna, chkflip) (eyestott, votato, Lilith) (eyestott, votato, chkflip)

Can anyone think of any reasons why any of those teams don’t work?

[DonCorleone]

I know youre probably not gonna believe this,

Well hey, you got one thing right!

[DonCorleone]

Vecna, am i gonna be reading a scum PT postgame where you’re yelling at eyestott to CC and he’s refusing

Because that would be lowkey hilarious given the posts you’ve been making this dayphase

[Vecna]

What’s your solve vecna?

I honestly think any solve is gonna involve MAX 1 in (Eyestott Votato)

Maybe im just stubborn because ive been townreading those two since the beginning and I want to be right.

I think Chk is only scum if Maria is scum, but I have no real strong reasons for that besides the way maria latched onto me in her catchup for voting and unvoting chkflip. I still think that mightve drawn her attention for partner reasons, and chkflip has been completely utterly unphased by anything ive thrown in his direction regarding this.

[Vecna]

Vecna, am i gonna be reading a scum PT postgame where you’re yelling at eyestott to CC and he’s refusing

Because that would be lowkey hilarious given the posts you’ve been making this dayphase

I wouldve done that shit myself and torpedoed ABR after his weakass gamestart.

Regardless, this is pure wifom ofcourse

[eyestott]

I know youre probably not gonna believe this, but ill stick to it I was still very much suspecting at least a somewhat rational approach to this from scum. Not claiming gun whatsoever was a huge fuckup that might still cost them the game.

Isn't this a paradox then? Like, why would scum!eyestott, as the last person to claim, claim a rose, thereby confirming the three claimed guns, unless he was NOT somewhat rational?
And following the same logic, in a scum team of any three of us, why would the last scum to claim, claim a rose?

[Vecna]

The funny part is, if you hadnt pulled those lines about the masculinities and shit this game probably wouldve gone totally different and been so simple.

Because understandably you really want the game to have me as scum now

[DonCorleone]

Okay, but you’re not giving me an actual solve, you’re giving me who might be in it and who’s conditional on being in it

Which 3 names right now do you think are most likely to end the game if we lynched/shot them all back to back?

[Vecna]

I know youre probably not gonna believe this, but ill stick to it I was still very much suspecting at least a somewhat rational approach to this from scum. Not claiming gun whatsoever was a huge fuckup that might still cost them the game.

Isn't this a paradox then? Like, why would scum!eyestott, as the last person to claim, claim a rose, thereby confirming the three claimed guns, unless he was NOT somewhat rational?
And following the same logic, in a scum team of any three of us, why would the last scum to claim, claim a rose?

Well, im quite sure that given the huge delays and you being absent so much recently, you were not gonna win any cc against anyone.

This is exactly the conundrum that DC is facing, because he knows that me as scum would have had to make that decision, on whether to push you to somehow do a convincing claim, or to get you to shut up and just hope this lynch falls correctly.

having said that, it would also depend on the availability of daychat.

Anyways, this theorizing is only going to add to how scummy people perceive me