Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

[Vecna]

Farside, explain in your own words what Maria was trying to say.

You stated it was truth, so show us you actually understood the post

[Vecna]

Who are your to die for townreads in your poe pool Farside? Do you have any?

[Vecna]

Also, why no comment on the Stotts wagon that all the ICs are sniffing around?

Your only play here now seems to tunnel on me, which seems strange given you had suddenly called me locktown at the end of last day

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR are you not gonna explain why I'm scum and just tell people to vote me? Knowing how much that just annoys me? Like, okay you scumread me that's fine but if you're not gonna explain it...

Farside seems town for picking rose + trying to lynch you and Lilith before

Vecna seems town for being run up out of nowhere by all the potentially scum slots (wagon not town driven)

Chkflip is also probably town from his play, defending vecna

That leaves eyeslot, lillith, you, and votato.

Lilith's play is better than yours. Votato / eyeslot either one could be scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

if vecna is scum, chkflip and lillith/votato/eyeslot/maria could be scum. It's really messy, scum are being very patient with a quicklynch bus, it seems less probable to me.

[Vecna]

to be fair ABR, if Farside -is- town here your logic is not going to convince her, because scum wagons often build up quicker because their teammates are afraid to look bad if they werent on there.

That is not what is happening here, but you're assuming the right thing for reasons that will look flawed to her

[Vecna]

Also, Farside

You should stop using the term ad-hom, because youre applying it all wrong

[Albert B. Rampage]

You. You had your chance to lead this town, did I get in your way? No, I did not.

u actually did. U single handedly destroyed my eyescott wagon because DC was pushing u.

You fucking let DC railroad me into a momentum-gaining bandwagon with farside, Sircakez and Lilith dude. I give you my nightkill but don't derail DC.

I am 100% obligated to tell town who I shoot tonight before the hammer, scum can't do nothing about it and town will get info day 2.

okay how about this u shoot in eyescott or maria tonight and ill vote with u on Don today.

Tht good?

ABR just shoot DC.

VOTE: MariaR

Okay fire then stop using your years old meta that I've been trying to change because you're objectively wrong in how I play. I don't really care if you want to wagon me, I do care about you slandering my rep.

and I never cared for u saying I don't play the game or was playing against my win conditions, etc, etc.

which uve done numerous times.

so lol at ur request.

Firebringer last words before death... i think FB was a threat due to his scumreads on maria and eyestot

[farside22]

How can Vecna be scum when literally anyone that could be scum just brought him to L-1? He is clearly town.

Scum don't bus? Since when?
He is using Ad hom logic and literally is buddying you.
The writing is on the wall and not voting venca is a declaration of being his scum buddy.

Why would scum bus at mylo following you?

All the conftown are off the wagon. That tells me something.

He's being wagoned!!! There is no reason not to vote there. They can now push a mylo based on your logic.
You want to vote lilith and we can go back to this discussion that is fine, but there is no way I believe he is town. He litterally is using a false "Why would i do that as scum" BS that scum fucking do all the fucking time!
If you could see how much I'm just looking at you ABR like you have lost your mind to listen to him as he pushes Maria and me as scum.
There is obviously no way for him to come up with a good scum team because he would have to point to his own freekin scum buddies. That is how deep that shit is that he stepped in.

*grumbles*

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see a world where lilith wants something smart killed and maria and eyestot want FB killed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Votato/Lilith/Vecna is possible.

Its either that or eyestot/lillith/maria.

[Albert B. Rampage]

or eyestot/lillith/vecna

[DonCorleone]

I don’t mind if you scumread me, I just hope it’s for stuff here.

I don’t scumread you though. I actually hard, hard townread you, I’m just worried I’m wrong because it always feels shitty when I hard townread scum.

Is there like a law of mafia or something that says “the greater the townread on a player known to be good at scumplay, the greater the paranoia you will feel”?

[DonCorleone]

I have zero interest in doing Maria today. I think she’s town, I think she’s played like town, and I’m not supporting her wagon or voting for her over players that have played less like town. If she’s scum then so be it, she’s played really well and I’d only be voting her out of some sense of paranoia.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just start at D2, you can always go back to read more of D1 if needed.

Here's a TLDR of D1 stuff I think you may have missed:
- competing eyestott + maria wagons
- ABR vs DC 1v1
- competing cakes + maria wagons
- deadline lynch of knightmare

How many times have we tried to kill maria in this game? Every time it fails.

[DonCorleone]

I think eyestott figures in nearly every team I have, I want him to die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well im ok with lillith lynch but maria is far from cleared and hasnt played as well as lilith imo

[Iconeum]

has DC claimed his target?

[DonCorleone]

One could say much the same thing about eyestott in terms of being tricky to lynch

Yeah, I shot farside

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: lillith

Well if farside ice and don think lillith flips scum sure im in

[DonCorleone]

It’s worth noting that in GnR III there were two competing D1 wagons on town that contributed to the scum win. So I don’t think Maria is locked in as scum from being the CW to cakez

[DonCorleone]

I’m less confident on Lilith than someone like eyestott though, I’d rather have Icon shoot Lilith at night

[Iconeum]

i don't think lilith flips scum tho

[Albert B. Rampage]

She was also counterwagon to eyestot until you derailed all of that to lynch me d1

[Iconeum]

I’d rather have Icon shoot Lilith at night